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« on: October 12, 2004, 04:06:22 AM »

As my final act in the senate, I would like to propose this:

Senate Closure Act

It is proposed that for a week before the midterm elections and the Presidential and Senate election, no new acts, bills or resolutions will be introduced into the senate, and no votes will take place on any current acts, bills or resolutions. It is also proposed that the senate can be recalled at any stage of this time by the President, and that discussion on already tabled bills and acts may be allowed to continue. It will come into effect the weekend before the third midterm elections.

(The reason for this act is to allow the senators to campaign for re-election, or for President. It would allow the senate to continue discussing legislation, but also not allow bills to be effected by Senators busy for campaign reasons).

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« Reply #1 on: October 12, 2004, 02:29:15 PM »
« Edited: October 12, 2004, 02:34:30 PM by AG Ernest »

Editorial changes made to give Act the style of language common to the Atlasian Statutes and clarify what has been proposed.  (If what I write doesn't fit what you thought you had said, then I apologize, but I did try to maintain what I thought you had said.)  I replaced the word tabled with proposed as tabled has in American English a considerably different connontation from that of  British/Australian English in the legislative context.  I am not  quite certain if this needs to be an Act or if a Resolution would do.

Senate Closure Act

1. During the week before each regular Senatorial election, no new Resolutions or Acts will be introduced into the Senate, and no votes will take place on any current Resolutions or Acts.

2. The Senate may be recalled during said week by the President.

3. Discussion on Acts proposed before said week may continue.

4. The effective date of this Act shall be the first Friday of December 2004.
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« Reply #2 on: October 13, 2004, 07:25:03 AM »

Yes, I think that is much clearer, thank you Ernest.
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« Reply #3 on: October 13, 2004, 10:01:12 PM »

I will definitely vote aye on this bill -- excellent idea for now and future elections, Senator.
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« Reply #4 on: October 14, 2004, 04:10:57 PM »

I do not like this bill one little bit.
If someone is unwilling or unable to perform their duties as  a senator because they can not campaign and legislate at the same time,  then they should just resign and let someone take over that will.
I see no reason why the business of the senate should come to a halt just so senators can run for president.
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« Reply #5 on: October 14, 2004, 04:29:18 PM »

if ou care to look, Senator, you will see that this won't come into effect until after I am no longer a senator. It is my belief that we should only have senators legislating when their attention is truly turned towards it, not re-election. This would increase the quality of the senate, as well as allow for senators to have equal time as their opponents to campiagn.
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« Reply #6 on: October 14, 2004, 04:33:08 PM »

my feelings on the matter have nothing to do with you.
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« Reply #7 on: October 15, 2004, 04:23:19 PM »

I support this bill.  The nation should concentrate on elections when they're upcoming.
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« Reply #8 on: October 19, 2004, 08:00:10 PM »

Unless there is a motion to extend debating on this act, voting is now open.

All infavor, Aye.
All oppose, Nay.



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« Reply #9 on: October 19, 2004, 08:49:23 PM »

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« Reply #10 on: October 19, 2004, 09:23:14 PM »

Aye
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« Reply #11 on: October 20, 2004, 12:35:57 AM »

Nay.
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« Reply #12 on: October 20, 2004, 12:57:42 AM »

Aye, because this puts the focus back on fantasy elections, not government.
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« Reply #13 on: October 20, 2004, 03:07:25 PM »

Nay.
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« Reply #14 on: October 20, 2004, 03:21:51 PM »

Aye
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« Reply #15 on: October 22, 2004, 01:36:19 AM »

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« Reply #16 on: October 22, 2004, 02:41:51 AM »

6-2, passed Smiley
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« Reply #17 on: November 15, 2004, 07:02:38 PM »

This vote was passed a long time ago and the 7 days for signature has passed. It is automatically law.
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« Reply #18 on: November 15, 2004, 07:04:45 PM »

This vote was passed a long time ago and the 7 days for signature has passed. It is automatically law.

Neither the PPT nor the VP closed the vote, nor was the bill presented to the President. The Vote was still therefore technically open when the new Senate was sworn in and therefore lapsed when the new Senate took office.

Please stop bumping up all the old threads, as this will be pretty much the same response to all of them.
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« Reply #19 on: November 15, 2004, 07:08:33 PM »

This vote was passed a long time ago and the 7 days for signature has passed. It is automatically law.

Neither the PPT nor the VP closed the vote, nor was the bill presented to the President. The Vote was still therefore technically open when the new Senate was sworn in and therefore lapsed when the new Senate took office.

Please stop bumping up all the old threads, as this will be pretty much the same response to all of them.

I never closed any vote when I was PPT because I was told it was not a requirement and it automatically closed when it was passed.
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« Reply #20 on: November 15, 2004, 07:09:31 PM »

so, either someone has to repropose it, or it goes away without ever having been put in place? :S
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« Reply #21 on: November 15, 2004, 07:41:08 PM »

This vote was passed a long time ago and the 7 days for signature has passed. It is automatically law.

Neither the PPT nor the VP closed the vote, nor was the bill presented to the President. The Vote was still therefore technically open when the new Senate was sworn in and therefore lapsed when the new Senate took office.

Please stop bumping up all the old threads, as this will be pretty much the same response to all of them.

I never closed any vote when I was PPT because I was told it was not a requirement and it automatically closed when it was passed.

If you remember King, I made such a fuss about bills being presented to the President when I was AG such as with the Family Planning Amendments Act of 2004 which you finally presented to the President on October 16, some four weeks after voting on the bill opened and which had it been presented to the President in a timely manner would have become law some three weeks earlier.

As for when a vote closed, I deemed that to be purely a matter of Senate procedure and left that entirely to the Senate to argue over, but the presentation to the President part is clearly spelled out in the Constitution, and this Act was never presented to the President.
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« Reply #22 on: November 15, 2004, 08:05:34 PM »

so, either someone has to repropose it, or it goes away without ever having been put in place? :S

Basically.
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