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Question: Say, in the next 50 years
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« on: October 05, 2004, 01:45:07 PM »

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« Reply #1 on: October 05, 2004, 01:55:13 PM »

If the parties changed their platforms and about 25 years from now maybe....
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« Reply #2 on: October 05, 2004, 01:58:05 PM »

Idaho, Alaska, Kansas etc. would be solid Democrat if the parties switched platforms
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« Reply #3 on: October 05, 2004, 01:58:23 PM »

Though nothing should be impossible, I'd say that this map is.  Impossible that the Democrats would gain such solid control over the South in the next 50 years; impossible that Republicans will somehow sweep the rest of the US; impossible that a third party would win Wisconsin without also winning Minnesota.

Just my opinion.
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« Reply #4 on: October 05, 2004, 01:58:57 PM »

Do you think Idaho and Kansas would go for a liberal Republican party?

No.
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« Reply #5 on: October 05, 2004, 02:04:44 PM »

Do you think Idaho and Kansas would go for a liberal Republican party?

No.

I disagree....I think it would.  Two socially liberal parties and one low taxes party(assuming liberal republicans still believe in that.)  Kansas and Idaho would still vote Republican.
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« Reply #6 on: October 05, 2004, 02:12:38 PM »


I disagree....I think it would.  Two socially liberal parties and one low taxes party(assuming liberal republicans still believe in that.)  Kansas and Idaho would still vote Republican.

Being a Kansan myself, I could still be wrong about this, but we don't always vote for a specific party.  We have a Democratic governor; I have Democrats for my state Representative and Senator.  If the parties did a flip-flop, as this thread is suggesting, Kansas would support a Democrat.

I can't speak for Idaho.
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« Reply #7 on: October 05, 2004, 02:17:16 PM »

Yes, it's very possible.  In 1920, it was impossible for Philadelphia to be Democratic.

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« Reply #8 on: October 05, 2004, 05:17:06 PM »

We got rid of Hawaii and Alaska? Tongue
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« Reply #9 on: October 05, 2004, 07:03:29 PM »

And DC's right to vote was taken away...apparently the GOP got a 2/3 majority in both houses of Congress and controlled 3/4 of the state legislatures at some point. Smiley
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« Reply #10 on: October 05, 2004, 07:39:44 PM »

Actually, a lot of people support "DC reform."
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« Reply #11 on: October 05, 2004, 10:06:54 PM »

Dem: Zell Miller
GOP: Rudy Guiliani
Ind: Russ Feingold
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« Reply #12 on: October 05, 2004, 10:25:03 PM »

how about this?



maybe if a popular DINO from Washington runs against a RINO.
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« Reply #13 on: October 05, 2004, 11:11:45 PM »

how about this?



maybe if a popular DINO from Washington runs against a RINO.

Yeah, that would probably make Arizona, New Mexico, and Oklahoma  secede from the union.

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« Reply #14 on: October 06, 2004, 12:31:57 AM »

lol. You forgot Alaska and Hawaii.
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« Reply #15 on: October 07, 2004, 09:28:21 AM »



Ah, a picture of the good old days. When democrats still had a clue.
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« Reply #16 on: October 10, 2004, 02:39:13 PM »


so Davis had a clue then? The guy who later went on to be an attorney defending Jim Crow laws and segregation? That's an example of a good Democrat?
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« Reply #17 on: October 11, 2004, 01:23:47 AM »


so Davis had a clue then? The guy who later went on to be an attorney defending Jim Crow laws and segregation? That's an example of a good Democrat?

No, conservative democrats. They no longer exist. Exception : Zell Miller.
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« Reply #18 on: October 11, 2004, 01:40:29 AM »

I still don't understand why you think that both Republicans and Democrats should be conservative, unless you've previously stated that you think Republicans should be liberal.
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« Reply #19 on: October 11, 2004, 01:55:11 AM »

I still don't understand why you think that both Republicans and Democrats should be conservative, unless you've previously stated that you think Republicans should be liberal.

Conservative is not necessarily a republican only ideology. Neither is liberalism only locked into Democrats.
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« Reply #20 on: October 11, 2004, 01:58:11 AM »

lol. You forgot Alaska and Hawaii.
And DC as well, but none of those three territories could vote for President in 1924.
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« Reply #21 on: October 19, 2004, 12:02:15 PM »

The one way I could see this happening:
--Republicans become a slightly more sane version of the Libertarian party
--Democrats abandon socialism
--Democrats become the family values party
--Some really popular governor from Wisconsin runs

Liberal Republicans, IMO, tend to be against tax cuts.

depends.  right now I'd say that they might be, since we're selling off our empire in chunks to the highest bidder.  Generally conservatives are tightwads, liberals are big spenders.  By definition.  But the manifestations thereof can be subtle.  I'm a tightwad in the sense that I always pay my bills on time.  I never by things on credit, never leave a balance on my credit cards, pay my auto insurance in one big lump payment per year, never let my substance connection front me anything, etc.  But that's just the kind of paranoid conservative I am.  A more liberal republican may live on the edge, high-interest credit card debt, get under another new car payment, 2nd mortgage,etc. 

So, extrapolating to a national level.  I'm a big fan of paying down debts.  Leave taxes alone, even increase 'em if necessary.  And that is certainly not coming from a "liberal" place in my being.  It's prudent, and conservative.  Also, I'll add, since I haven't posted in quite a while, that my conservatism is precisely what lead me to protest US military involvement in Iraq.  Still think it was a bad idea.  But, hindsight's 20/20.  And it conservatism that leads me to think Bush should be reelected precisely because Iraq has become such a bloody hell.

A *really* conservative republican would probably be voting for Badnarik about now.  Bush has become quite the big spender.  A liberal Republican, if you will.  Smiley
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« Reply #22 on: October 19, 2004, 12:10:45 PM »

Glad to see you back Angus.
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« Reply #23 on: October 19, 2004, 12:16:32 PM »


don't take any sh**t off that anti-statesrights crowd!

Sic semper tyrannis

(oh, the paradox is delightful, don't you think?!)

I see you're back on Team One.  Blue suits you better anyway.
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« Reply #24 on: October 23, 2004, 02:49:20 PM »

It's VERY, VERY importent to remember that the demographics of most U.S states have changed a LOT since then.
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