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« on: May 29, 2009, 11:04:44 PM »
http://www.tampabay.com/news/religion/article1005717.ece

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« Reply #1 on: May 30, 2009, 01:53:50 AM »
Christianity, you're next.
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« Reply #2 on: May 30, 2009, 01:54:12 AM »
My old highschool is banned by Wikipedia too, and for the same reason: people wouldn't stop trying to edit articles to reflect their opinions.
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« Reply #3 on: May 30, 2009, 01:55:36 AM »
Will the Church of Scientology attempt to sue Wikipedia?
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« Reply #4 on: May 30, 2009, 02:39:22 AM »
This greatly improves my opinion of Wikipedia. $cientology is a criminal cult which must be attacked by all means possible.
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« Reply #5 on: May 30, 2009, 02:57:29 AM »
« Edited: May 30, 2009, 03:34:26 AM by Lal Krishna Prime Minister Nahin Banega »
Anyone except people who repeatedly break the rules.

And frankly, the articles on individual Indian upper castes are each and every one of them screaming for enforcement of the same policy.
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« Reply #6 on: May 30, 2009, 03:13:20 AM »
I'm pretty sure Wiki doesn't want anybody that is part of an organization to alter the wiki page for that organization and they aren't stopping Scientoligists from editing the Scientology page, they are just stopping them from doing from Scientology computers.

Also, it's Wikipedia's website, they can do whatever the hell they want with it, including blocking specific people for whatever idiotic reason they want.  Just like Dave can do with this place.  Nobody has any inherent "freedom of speech" on a website they don't own just like you don't in some random dude's front yard.

You wish! Smiley
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« Reply #7 on: May 30, 2009, 04:03:11 AM »
Quote from: GMantis on May 30, 2009, 02:39:22 AM
This greatly improves my opinion of Wikipedia. $cientology is a criminal cult which must be attacked by all means possible.
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« Reply #8 on: May 30, 2009, 07:37:10 AM »

You're assuming Scientology is a religion, which it's not.  Roll Eyes

I bet WIKI would ban the KKK too.........
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« Reply #9 on: May 30, 2009, 07:42:06 AM »
Excellent.
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« Reply #10 on: May 30, 2009, 08:37:00 AM »
The Wiki people are fascists.
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« Reply #11 on: May 30, 2009, 10:33:56 AM »
I read in another article that it was Wiki's "Supreme Court" that decided on the ban, which I thought was cute.

Well I don't care, I only go on wiki to find quick and random science info anyway.
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« Reply #12 on: May 30, 2009, 10:56:35 AM »

Haha, yeah.

Good for Wiki.
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« Reply #13 on: May 30, 2009, 11:03:15 AM »
Quote from: Lal Krishna Prime Minister Nahin Banega on May 30, 2009, 02:57:29 AM
Anyone except people who repeatedly break the rules.

And frankly, the articles on individual Indian upper castes are each and every one of them screaming for enforcement of the same policy.


Oh, there's a ton of stuff like that. The Church of Scientology IPs were perma-banned because they have an institutional structure that allowed them to coordinate vandalism on Wikipedia. There's no range of IPs for various caste-warring Hindus or for the Greco-Macedonian combatants or for angry Serbs and Kosovars or for any of the other ongoing edit wars on Wikipedia. So the accounts get banned, and IPs sometimes get blocked, but there's no way to actually eliminate the problem in the same way that it was possible to eliminate the Scientology problem by banning all IPs owned by the Church of Scientology.
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« Reply #14 on: May 30, 2009, 11:06:44 AM »
Wikipedia = Freedom Fighters
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« Reply #15 on: May 31, 2009, 12:20:52 AM »
Quote from: Lal Krishna Prime Minister Nahin Banega on May 30, 2009, 02:57:29 AM
Anyone except people who repeatedly break the rules.

And frankly, the articles on individual Indian upper castes are each and every one of them screaming for enforcement of the same policy.


Why is that? I don't really see disputes on those pages although I haven't read most of them. Can you point me to a specific case? I guess they don't list what atrocities may have been committed in the past by the caste, but isn't that more appropriate for the page discussing the caste system as a whole?

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« Reply #16 on: May 31, 2009, 12:32:05 AM »
Excellent.  And academics claim Wikipedia isn't reliable.  Smiley
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« Reply #17 on: May 31, 2009, 12:35:25 AM »
I mean, if an organization is substantively and systematically determined to slant Wikipedia's reporting, such that it requires more than constant vigilance but rather 24/7/365-no-bathroom-breaks defense, I think Wikipedia deserves these safeguards

It's clearly against the rules to do this anyway and I doubt these computers from these IP addresses are editing articles on spoons or mountain goats or whatever.  By the way, who would spend an hour of their life writing about the spoon on wikipedia?
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« Reply #18 on: May 31, 2009, 12:52:57 AM »
I don't think than Scientologists can write something neutral on Scientology.
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« Reply #19 on: May 31, 2009, 12:53:58 AM »
Quote from: Lunar on May 31, 2009, 12:35:25 AM
By the way, who would spend an hour of their life writing about the spoon on wikipedia?

Jimmy Wales?
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« Reply #20 on: May 31, 2009, 12:56:26 AM »
Nah, I think he laughs at such people while simultaneously encouraging them since they help his project.

I have a hard time believing he is involved in editing inane random things that don't need defining whatsoever
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« Reply #21 on: May 31, 2009, 12:59:28 AM »
Don't depreciate those persons, Lunar.
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« Reply #22 on: May 31, 2009, 01:49:25 AM »
Quote from: Lunar on May 31, 2009, 12:56:26 AM
Nah, I think he laughs at such people while simultaneously encouraging them since they help his project.

I have a hard time believing he is involved in editing inane random things that don't need defining whatsoever

Frustrated computer nerds?
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« Reply #23 on: May 31, 2009, 02:04:11 AM »

Well put. I fully agree.
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« Reply #24 on: May 31, 2009, 02:07:22 AM »
The misleading title of this thread (and the intro of the TB article) reminds me of
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