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Marokai Backbeat
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« on: April 17, 2009, 12:37:48 AM »

I'm not happy with the situation that led to the prosecution of Ben, and if it were up to me, I would indeed just amend the law and pretend nothing ever happened, but a law was violated. We can't go off and start allowing people to get away with little violations here and there because they're not serious.

Whether or not the situation around the charges against Ben were confusing or not, Spade made very clear when the punishment was to start in his ruling. Ben can count, and he should have known better. The fact that he didn't count properly doesn't change the fact that the law was broken and charges are totally valid.

I seek a light sentence and hopefully a review of the law in question, but he still broke the law.
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« Reply #1 on: April 17, 2009, 12:52:28 AM »

Precisely, Senator, our discretion lies not within whether law should be prosecuted but the extent of the prosecution and punishment.

I would also like to point out to Purple State that Ben has acknowledged his guilt to me in private messaging.
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« Reply #2 on: April 17, 2009, 01:28:02 AM »

As I mentioned to Ben this morning, I think there is a question of when a ballot becomes a vote. He certainly cast a ballot in the absentee booth, however if his ban expires before ballots are counted, the question remains as to whether he has actually voted before or after the ban is lifted, since the ballots have not yet been counted.

It was a vote, the act or even attempt of voting whilst banned from doing so is illegal, it doesn't matter whether it was an absentee vote or not, it's practically the same thing in Atlasia.
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« Reply #3 on: April 19, 2009, 05:06:46 PM »

If the Amendment is repealed in the voting booth (as seems to be the case after the ruling), I'm not sure there's much I can do about it, honestly.
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« Reply #4 on: April 19, 2009, 10:26:47 PM »

From what I understand, the 'currency' would have the same effects as distributing say gift vouchers or even as 'wacky' novelty theme park money- they are issued by an individual or a compny and only reedemable through agreement with the same company or another company. They are valueless except to those who agree to their value.

In that case any citizen could make a group and claim to have X amount of gold reserves and therefore issue their own currency. It would be anarchy.

So? As long as they actually have gold reserves, I fail to see the problem.

It's a virtual game. There are no actual gold reserves... So you just say you have them and issue currency. It's like when kids play pretend army and one kid gets shot, he claims invincibility, so when he shoots someone they say they can't die, and it goes down-hill from there.

It's true though. I wish we had some sort of rules laid out for that type of thing so this sort of stuff didn't happen, or some sort of "Department of Statistics" to lay out reasonable and realistic economic reports on a semi-regular basis and kept citizens within reasonable fantasy rules. But alas..
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