Opinion of Obama's handling of the Somali Pirates hostage situation

[Scam of God]

RB, neither of us are military experts that could POSSIBLY know what the hell we're talking about with this operation, agree?

the people at the Pentagon are experts in this, agree?



So, what is your complaint, exactly?  That the experts, who know a billion times more than you know about an operation, and would have no reason to delay it beyond necessity, took too long?  That Obama wasn't aggressive enough in pressuring the Pentagon to act?

Yes, they do know more than I do. But from an average citizen's perspective, it seems like a long time with no action being done. I don't understand why they didn't try to do anything when the captain made his first attempt to escape.

What should they have done, exactly?  It was in the middle of the night.  Open fire when you're unprepared to guarantee that all of them will die instantly, and when one of the Somalis is in the water (difficult to shoot at).

Please, elaborate.

What should Obama have done when he attempted his escape.

I don't know. Like I said I'm not an expert, but just letting him get recaptured wasn't the best option was it? And Obama shouldn't have done anything, he would have been notified too late. It should have been up to the commanders in the area.

Are you retarded? Do you seriously have a mental disability? The United States military is not permitted to engage in any military operations, aside from returning direct fire, without the express permission of the Commander-in-Chief.

The captain was a civilian. The regional commanders had to get permission from the C-in-C to intervene. His response was timely and appropriate, and the mission was a success.

[Mint]

Approve for once.

[Rowan]

RB, neither of us are military experts that could POSSIBLY know what the hell we're talking about with this operation, agree?

the people at the Pentagon are experts in this, agree?



So, what is your complaint, exactly?  That the experts, who know a billion times more than you know about an operation, and would have no reason to delay it beyond necessity, took too long?  That Obama wasn't aggressive enough in pressuring the Pentagon to act?

Yes, they do know more than I do. But from an average citizen's perspective, it seems like a long time with no action being done. I don't understand why they didn't try to do anything when the captain made his first attempt to escape.

What should they have done, exactly?  It was in the middle of the night.  Open fire when you're unprepared to guarantee that all of them will die instantly, and when one of the Somalis is in the water (difficult to shoot at).

Please, elaborate.

What should Obama have done when he attempted his escape.

I don't know. Like I said I'm not an expert, but just letting him get recaptured wasn't the best option was it? And Obama shouldn't have done anything, he would have been notified too late. It should have been up to the commanders in the area.

Are you retarded? Do you seriously have a mental disability? The United States military is not permitted to engage in any military operations, aside from returning direct fire, without the express permission of the Commander-in-Chief.

The captain was a civilian. The regional commanders had to get permission from the C-in-C to intervene. His response was timely and appropriate, and the mission was a success.

Hey, just FYI, I am going to ignore everyone of your posts from now on. Kthx.

[Scam of God]

RB, neither of us are military experts that could POSSIBLY know what the hell we're talking about with this operation, agree?

the people at the Pentagon are experts in this, agree?



So, what is your complaint, exactly?  That the experts, who know a billion times more than you know about an operation, and would have no reason to delay it beyond necessity, took too long?  That Obama wasn't aggressive enough in pressuring the Pentagon to act?

Yes, they do know more than I do. But from an average citizen's perspective, it seems like a long time with no action being done. I don't understand why they didn't try to do anything when the captain made his first attempt to escape.

What should they have done, exactly?  It was in the middle of the night.  Open fire when you're unprepared to guarantee that all of them will die instantly, and when one of the Somalis is in the water (difficult to shoot at).

Please, elaborate.

What should Obama have done when he attempted his escape.

I don't know. Like I said I'm not an expert, but just letting him get recaptured wasn't the best option was it? And Obama shouldn't have done anything, he would have been notified too late. It should have been up to the commanders in the area.

Are you retarded? Do you seriously have a mental disability? The United States military is not permitted to engage in any military operations, aside from returning direct fire, without the express permission of the Commander-in-Chief.

The captain was a civilian. The regional commanders had to get permission from the C-in-C to intervene. His response was timely and appropriate, and the mission was a success.

Hey, just FYI, I am going to ignore everyone of your posts from now on. Kthx.

OH NOEZ, LOGIC MIGHT PENETRATE THE PARTISAN FOG OF IRRATIONALITY CLOUDING MY MIND! MUST PRESERVE STATUS QUO!

[Rowan]

RB, neither of us are military experts that could POSSIBLY know what the hell we're talking about with this operation, agree?

the people at the Pentagon are experts in this, agree?



So, what is your complaint, exactly?  That the experts, who know a billion times more than you know about an operation, and would have no reason to delay it beyond necessity, took too long?  That Obama wasn't aggressive enough in pressuring the Pentagon to act?

Yes, they do know more than I do. But from an average citizen's perspective, it seems like a long time with no action being done. I don't understand why they didn't try to do anything when the captain made his first attempt to escape.

What should they have done, exactly?  It was in the middle of the night.  Open fire when you're unprepared to guarantee that all of them will die instantly, and when one of the Somalis is in the water (difficult to shoot at).

Please, elaborate.

What should Obama have done when he attempted his escape.

I don't know. Like I said I'm not an expert, but just letting him get recaptured wasn't the best option was it? And Obama shouldn't have done anything, he would have been notified too late. It should have been up to the commanders in the area.

Are you retarded? Do you seriously have a mental disability? The United States military is not permitted to engage in any military operations, aside from returning direct fire, without the express permission of the Commander-in-Chief.

The captain was a civilian. The regional commanders had to get permission from the C-in-C to intervene. His response was timely and appropriate, and the mission was a success.

Hey, just FYI, I am going to ignore everyone of your posts from now on. Kthx.

OH NOEZ, LOGIC MIGHT PENETRATE THE PARTISAN FOG OF IRRATIONALITY CLOUDING MY MIND! MUST PRESERVE STATUS QUO!

No, I'll just stop feeding the troll and he'll go away.

[Eraserhead]

I really don't see how he could have handled it any better although I'll admit that I didn't bother paying that much attention to the whole thing.

[Scam of God]

RB, neither of us are military experts that could POSSIBLY know what the hell we're talking about with this operation, agree?

the people at the Pentagon are experts in this, agree?



So, what is your complaint, exactly?  That the experts, who know a billion times more than you know about an operation, and would have no reason to delay it beyond necessity, took too long?  That Obama wasn't aggressive enough in pressuring the Pentagon to act?

Yes, they do know more than I do. But from an average citizen's perspective, it seems like a long time with no action being done. I don't understand why they didn't try to do anything when the captain made his first attempt to escape.

What should they have done, exactly?  It was in the middle of the night.  Open fire when you're unprepared to guarantee that all of them will die instantly, and when one of the Somalis is in the water (difficult to shoot at).

Please, elaborate.

What should Obama have done when he attempted his escape.

I don't know. Like I said I'm not an expert, but just letting him get recaptured wasn't the best option was it? And Obama shouldn't have done anything, he would have been notified too late. It should have been up to the commanders in the area.

Are you retarded? Do you seriously have a mental disability? The United States military is not permitted to engage in any military operations, aside from returning direct fire, without the express permission of the Commander-in-Chief.

The captain was a civilian. The regional commanders had to get permission from the C-in-C to intervene. His response was timely and appropriate, and the mission was a success.

Hey, just FYI, I am going to ignore everyone of your posts from now on. Kthx.

OH NOEZ, LOGIC MIGHT PENETRATE THE PARTISAN FOG OF IRRATIONALITY CLOUDING MY MIND! MUST PRESERVE STATUS QUO!

No, I'll just stop feeding the troll and he'll go away.

'Troll'? No, I'm not trolling, you douchebag. I'll tell you when I am trolling you. And you will know. I am correcting your many, blatant, intentional stupidities.

The United States Armed Services are not allowed to engage in combat, save when they are under fire, without permission. The captain was a civilian. Put two and two together, chief; rub those tired old brain cells together: they had to get permission from the President to engage in a rescue mission. That required Obama to know about it first, and to receive a strategy from the Pentagon. The Pentagon, in turn, altered its initial rescue plan once news of his attempted escape broke. And it took time to get the SEALS in position.

That's why it took three days. You are whining because you are a whiner.

[Lunar]

RB: so what is your complaint exactly.  please, elaborate, that as an "average citizen" in a situation you admittedly know nothing about, in a thread 100% about Obama that you admittedly acknowledge that he had almost nothing to do with, that the military commanders on the ground exhibited poor judgment by not moving forward with their actions sooner in a mission that ended up as a perfect success?

forgive me if I am a bit confused

[Rowan]

RB: so what is your complaint exactly.  please, elaborate, that as an "average citizen" in a situation you admittedly know nothing about, in a thread 100% about Obama that you admittedly acknowledge that he had almost nothing to do with, that the military commanders on the ground exhibited poor judgment by not moving forward with their actions sooner in a mission that ended up as a perfect success?

forgive me if I am a bit confused

For the record, I did vote strongly approve in the poll. I just feel it should have done a little quicker. But, if you say that they needed that time to make the plan, then I'll take your word for it. It's just a bit disconcerting to have an American in harms way, never knowing when they will decide to pull the trigger, and the government seemed to not be doing anything(even though they were doing things behind the scenes).

[Scam of God]

RB: so what is your complaint exactly.  please, elaborate, that as an "average citizen" in a situation you admittedly know nothing about, in a thread 100% about Obama that you admittedly acknowledge that he had almost nothing to do with, that the military commanders on the ground exhibited poor judgment by not moving forward with their actions sooner in a mission that ended up as a perfect success?

forgive me if I am a bit confused

For the record, I did vote strongly approve in the poll. I just feel it should have done a little quicker.

It couldn't have been done any faster! This was a fast rescue operation. In P'tahn Nien in Vietnam, for instance, it took two weeks for the Nixon Administration to receive word of the capture of four American snipes, and another week and a half to maneuver Rangers into the area to commence a rescue operation. And it was still a success.

I was actually surprised at how quickly it was done.

[Lunar]

RB, I don't know 100% that they needed more time to save him, I'm the opposite of a military expert.  But I can logically deduce that these operations are enormously complex and require careful planning, which takes time, in order to maximize their odds of success.  Their failure to react in a surprise situation (the captain jumping off the boat in the middle of the night), could perhaps be a failure.  It's difficult to tell.

But I trust that the people who have worked their whole life towards this sort of thing, as of now, before I find out any more information [as of now, I barely know anything], in which they ended up with a perfect success...probably did the right thing at the right time.  When we find out more deets we'll have the better opportunity to critique.


Again, I think the default explanation is that Obama was a rubber stamp, until we hear otherwise from objective sources (I doubt the White House will promote this aspect of the story haha).  Probably a few photo ops and exaggerations are in order?

[Scam of God]

Moreover, there are a lot of things to assess in undertaking a search-and-rescue mission. It is the policy of the State Department never to put American soldiers in harms way if they are likely to fail at their mission; consequently, the government would have had to ascertain the number of enemy combatants in the area to ensure an adequate counter-force was applied.

[opebo]

Very unimportant.

[Scam of God]

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What needs to happen is that the French and Americans and English need to put pressure on the locals not to tolerate the pirates any longer. We can continue to blow pirates to Hell from now until kingdom come, but until domestic opinion is against them and they are pressured out of existence, they will still have safe havens to operate from.

[Tender Branson]

For lasting competent™ leadership please re-elect President Barack Obama in 2012

and visit:

www.barackobama.com

Thank You Very Much !

Honorary mention: www.navy.mil

[Queen Mum Inks.LWC]

Strongly approve.

[Lunar]

What was Obama's handling exactly?  Not disapproving the Pentagon's request and like, staying silent on questions, upon request?

[Scam of God]

What was Obama's handling exactly?  Not disapproving the Pentagon's request and like, staying silent on questions, upon request?

"Good show, old sport. Now we musn't do anything to upset the Republicans, else they won't sit with us at the country club luncheon tomorrow."

[Fritz]

Approve.  The situation has been handled well so far, but now we need a strong response to put an end to this kind of activity altogether.

[k-onmmunist]

A joke.

[JSojourner]

Strongly Approve

[GMantis]

Strongly Approve

Yes, this is the correct way of dealing with these criminals (or enemies of mankind, if you prefer), but it won't solve the problem on its own.