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Question: If a Lower House was created to allow all citizens to debate and vote on legislation, would you participate?
#1
Yes, a great deal
 
#2
Yes, a bit and I would vote
 
#3
Yes, infrequently
 
#4
No
 
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Total Voters: 23

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« Reply #25 on: April 05, 2009, 11:59:27 PM »

    Actually, I just thought of a possibility for a bicameral congress where the lower house is not universal.

I actually already proposed that, and it didn't get enough votes from delegates to pass to the next phase of the convention.
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« Reply #26 on: April 06, 2009, 12:04:36 AM »

    Actually, I just thought of a possibility for a bicameral congress where the lower house is not universal.

I actually already proposed that, and it didn't get enough votes from delegates to pass to the next phase of the convention.

     As it so happened, I was able to put it forth & it looks like there's a real chance of a compromise between the proponents of the two major plans. Smiley
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« Reply #27 on: April 06, 2009, 09:22:16 AM »

Nothing would ever be able to be passed or in very rare situations. Imagine how many votes you'd need to pass anything and how innactive most people would be.
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« Reply #28 on: April 06, 2009, 11:07:53 AM »

Nothing would ever be able to be passed or in very rare situations. Imagine how many votes you'd need to pass anything and how innactive most people would be.

Majority vote and no quorum. But that sorta puts debate power in the hands of those who are always active, while some members could mobilize zombies for vote power whenever the mood strikes them. Universalism straight is becoming less and less appealing, but the current compromise being struck in the Convention is a promising starting point.
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« Reply #29 on: April 06, 2009, 12:20:01 PM »

Nothing would ever be able to be passed or in very rare situations. Imagine how many votes you'd need to pass anything and how innactive most people would be.

Majority vote and no quorum. But that sorta puts debate power in the hands of those who are always active, while some members could mobilize zombies for vote power whenever the mood strikes them. Universalism straight is becoming less and less appealing, but the current compromise being struck in the Convention is a promising starting point.

     Pretty much. People used to complain frequently about the RPP mobilizing inactive voters. If we had a universal lower house & did the same thing the complaints would multiply 10,000x.
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