Smid's Diplomacy Game Thread #2

[Gustaf]

Oh, and while I have no principal objection to Erc taking over I will actually be home in a week, so the need is not really there. I do not think my position is very enviable anyway...

[dead0man]

France must retreat the fleet in the Tyrrhenian Sea.

France would like to retreat to GoL.  Thank you.

[muon2]

With the retreat, the position to start Fall 1908 is:



Since Gustav is available to continue with England, I'll keep him in charge of orders there.

[ilikeverin]

lol@what muon did to my A Bud S A Vie->Bre order.

I would like to formally propose a draw.

Okay!

[muon2]

lol@what muon did to my A Bud S A Vie->Bre order.

The move is invalid, since A vie cannot go to bre directly or by convoy. An invalid order is considered a hold. It's equivalent to no orders received.

[minionofmidas]

lol@what muon did to my A Bud S A Vie->Bre order.

Was that muon, or his computer program?

[muon2]

lol@what muon did to my A Bud S A Vie->Bre order.

Was that muon, or his computer program?

The answer is a bit of both. The program does not accept illegal orders, and leaves them as no moves received. I copy the output of moves and the program's adjudication to the post. However, I did alter the adjudication from No move received to Invalid order.

[ilikeverin]

lol@what muon did to my A Bud S A Vie->Bre order.

Was that muon, or his computer program?

The answer is a bit of both. The program does not accept illegal orders, and leaves them as no moves received. I copy the output of moves and the program's adjudication to the post. However, I did alter the adjudication from No move received to Invalid order.

Boo, hiss.  Realpolitik allowed it to be entered!  Your system fails!

[Erc]

Oh, and while I have no principal objection to Erc taking over I will actually be home in a week, so the need is not really there. I do not think my position is very enviable anyway...

Probably best if you keep the reins, then.

[muon2]

Moves for Fall 1908:



Austria:
F adr Supports A tri
A bud Supports A tri
A rum Supports A bud
A ser Supports A bud
A tri Supports A ven

England:
F cly -> lvp; Bounced with wal (1 against 1).
F por -> spa/sc; Bounced with gas (2 against 1).

France:
F gas -> spa/nc
F lyo Supports F tus -> tys
F mar -> pie; Bounced with tyr (1 against 1).
F mao Supports F gas -> spa/nc
A tun Holds
F tus -> tys; Bounced with nap (2 against 2). Dislodged from rom (2 against 1). The Fleet in Tuscany cannot retreat; unit destroyed.
A wal -> lvp; Bounced with cly (1 against 1).

Germany:
F eng Supports F mao
A gal Supports A vie
A lvn -> war; Bounced with war (1 against 1).
A mos Supports A ukr
A mun -> tyr; Failed because Germany: A tyr -> pie failed.
F nth Supports F nwg -> edi
F nwg -> edi
A sil -> boh
A tyr -> pie; Bounced with mar (1 against 1).
A ukr Supports A gal
A vie Supports A mun -> tyr
A war Supports A gal

Italy:
F nap -> tys; Bounced with tus (2 against 2).
F rom -> tus
A ven Supports F rom -> tus

Turkey:
A arm Supports A sev
F bla Supports A rum
F ion Supports F nap -> tys
A sev Supports A rum
F tys -> wes

There are no retreats for this turn, so the position before adjustment is:



England must remove one unit.
France may build one unit.
Germany may build one unit.

[Silent Hunter]

I don't think we need a draw- I think Germany should be dictating peace terms!

[Gustaf]

I'd like to remove the Portugal unit.

No, I'm kidding. Remove Clyde. I will remove the Portugal unit next turn.

[Lunar]

Didn't go for the free SC in Tunis?  Wow.

Looks like France and I had a little misstep in Piedmont, probably my fault.  France will not be able to build in Marseilles because of that and I in Munich.

I'll build an army in Berlin.

[Gustaf]

Didn't go for the free SC in Tunis?  Wow.

Looks like France and I had a little misstep in Piedmont, probably my fault.  France will not be able to build in Marseilles because of that and I in Munich.

I'll build an army in Berlin.

Misstep? It's a trap, I tell you. Strike before it is too late!

[dead0man]

Army in Paris

[muon2]

Adjustments for 1908 are

England: disband F cly
France: build A par
Germany: build A ber

And the map to start the next turn is

[Јas]

I don't think we need a draw- I think Germany should be dictating peace terms!

MIAOW (the Meeting of Italian, Austrian and Ottoman Warlords) are ad idem on the issue of a peaceful settlement. The view having been expressed by my colleagues already within this thread.

However, Germany is not in a position to dictate terms on us. Opportunities for German advancement against us are few, if any. His opportunities for a significant number of simple captures against France are quite evident though. Presuming he times that right, then the Ottoman, Austrian, French and Italian State Heads might not be able to prevent an outright German win.

[Gustaf]

I don't think we need a draw- I think Germany should be dictating peace terms!

MIAOW (the Meeting of Italian, Austrian and Ottoman Warlords) are ad idem on the issue of a peaceful settlement. The view having been expressed by my colleagues already within this thread.

However, Germany is not in a position to dictate terms on us. Opportunities for German advancement against us are few, if any. His opportunities for a significant number of simple captures against France are quite evident though. Presuming he times that right, then the Ottoman, Austrian, French and Italian State Heads might not be able to prevent an outright German win.

I cannot fathom of any reason for England being so excluded from these discussions, given the major role I am likely to play in the future battles.

[Јas]

I don't think we need a draw- I think Germany should be dictating peace terms!

MIAOW (the Meeting of Italian, Austrian and Ottoman Warlords) are ad idem on the issue of a peaceful settlement. The view having been expressed by my colleagues already within this thread.

However, Germany is not in a position to dictate terms on us. Opportunities for German advancement against us are few, if any. His opportunities for a significant number of simple captures against France are quite evident though. Presuming he times that right, then the Ottoman, Austrian, French and Italian State Heads might not be able to prevent an outright German win.

I cannot fathom of any reason for England being so excluded from these discussions, given the major role I am likely to play in the future battles.

Ah yes, unfortunately those discussion are limited to the British, Austrian, Italian and Turkish InterNational Group.

[muon2]

Moves for Spring 1909:



Austria:
F adr Supports A tri
A bud Supports A tri
A rum Supports A bud
A ser Supports A bud
A tri Supports A ven -> tyr

England:
F por -> spa/sc; Bounced with spa (1 against 1). Dislodged from mao (2 against 1). The Fleet in Portugal cannot retreat; unit destroyed.

France:
F lyo Supports F spa/nc; Support cut by Move from Western Mediterranean.
F mar Supports F lyo
F mao -> por
A par -> bur
F spa/nc Supports F mao -> por
A tun Holds
A wal Holds

Germany:
A ber -> mun
A boh Supports A mun -> tyr
F edi -> nwg
F eng -> mao
A gal Supports A vie
A lvn -> pru
A mos Supports A ukr
A mun -> tyr
F nth -> eng
A tyr -> pie
A ukr Supports A gal
A vie Supports A mun -> tyr
A war Supports A gal

Italy:
F nap -> tys
F tus Supports F wes -> lyo
A ven -> tyr; Bounced with mun (3 against 2).

Turkey:
A arm Supports A sev
F bla Supports A rum
F ion Supports F nap -> tys
A sev Supports A rum
F wes -> lyo; Bounced with lyo (2 against 2).

No retreats are necessary, so the position to begin the fall move is:

[Lunar]

Damn, Turkey sure is working hard to give Italy Tunis. 

I didn't notice that the movement triangles on the map got bigger with support, that's pretty cool.  When I finally take Budapest from 5 different sides, expect a big triangle everyone!

[Gustaf]

I retreat to oblivion.

[minionofmidas]

I think dead0 should retreat from Portugal in the fall, so Gustaf could build a new army if he had a home centre.

[muon2]

Moves for Fall 1909:



Austria:
F adr Supports A ven
A bud Supports A tri
A rum Supports A bud
A ser Supports A tri
A tri Supports A bud

France:
A bur -> gas
F lyo -> tus; Bounced with tus (2 against 2).
F mar -> spa/sc
F por Supports F mar -> spa/sc
F spa/nc -> mao
A tun Supports F mao -> naf; Support cut by Move from Tyrrhenian Sea. Dislodged from tys (2 against 1). The Army in Tunis cannot retreat; unit destroyed.
A wal -> pic; Convoy path taken: wal→eng→pic.

Germany:
A boh Supports A vie
F eng Convoys A wal -> pic
A gal Supports A ukr
F mao -> naf
A mos Supports A ukr
A mun Supports A tyr
F nwg -> nao
A pie Supports F lyo -> tus
A pru -> sil
A tyr Supports A pie
A ukr Supports A gal
A vie Supports A tyr
A war Supports A gal

Italy:
F tus Holds; Invalid order for unit Tuscany; Hold order assigned
(Judge's note: the order was F Tuscany S F Portugal - Berlin; perhaps the order was mistranslated from Italian )
F tys -> tun
A ven Supports F tus

Turkey:
A arm Supports A sev
F bla Supports A rum
F ion Supports F tys -> tun
A sev Supports A rum
F wes -> lyo; Failed because France: F lyo -> tus failed.

The position after movement is:



No retreats needed.

Adjustments needed:
France build 1
Italy build 1

[minionofmidas]

A Rome, surprise surprise.