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« Reply #25 on: August 08, 2009, 10:45:57 AM »

Well, I certianly think a PS-BE coalition is in the works, as shown by a recent shenanigan where the Block leader went defending a minister from some PSD attacks. That said, there's no official word about it, which is natural given that they don't want to scare center voters with the idea that they might want to share power with Trotskists.

A grand coalition has been done before when the two parties hated each other more; but in this case, the only way it'll be done is without Socrates, since he has acted in such a way towards the opposition during his tenure that no one would want to govern with him. So, it'd have to be a PSD-led grand coalition. That said, it's not anyone's favorite resolution.

Bono, I don't know a PS-BE coalition is on the work, but it's the best of all alternatives when the result is like the last poll. The BE must be more pragmatic like in the last years and this is no bad thing, but the time for election records is then for a time over.

A grand coalition without Socrates is only possible, when the result of the PS extremely bad and the PSD-CDS have no majority. I don't see this. In the end the voters decide José Sócrates or Manuela Ferreira Leite will be  prime minister. This speaks more for the PS, because he looks more sympathetic . By the way, I was now over 2 weeks in Portugal and I don't see a election poster with Manuela Ferreira Leite. I think they now with her charisma you can only lose voters and not gain new voters.
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« Reply #26 on: September 02, 2009, 08:37:14 AM »

I found the Portuguese Wahl-o-mat. I hope the translation is good. I must first it translate from Portuguese to German and then into English.
http://sic.sapo.pt/online/noticias/portugal2009/multimedia/bussola-eleitoral.htm
Click at Start and you can look what’s the best party for you in Portugal.

concorda totalmente =  totally agree
tende a concordar = tends to agree
neutro = neutral
tende a discordar = tend to disagree
discorda totalmente = totally disagree
sem opinião = No opinion

1.) The private sector should have a very limited role in the education

2) The financing of social security should be done exclusively with public money

3) For the sustainability of social security we must the increase in retirement age in the public service

4) The private sector should have a very limited role in the health system

5) For the modernization of public administration we need to reduce the number of employees

6) We should reduce taxes to increase the economic growth

7) The balance of public accounts can only be achieved by sacrificing important economic and social objectives

8 ) The nationalization of the banking should be seen as a last way out

9) The fight against inequality requires a greater contribution from individuals and businesses with higher incomes

10) In the Portuguese society the private sector is not sufficiently rewarded

11) Partnerships between private sector and the state are an efficient way to finance public investment

12) The current major public works, like the TGV, are a good option

13) We should deregulate markets whenever possible

14) For the growth of the economy is the relaxation of labour laws necessary

15) The government should directly intervene to regulate prices of essential goods

16) The decriminalization of abortion was positive

17) The marriage should remain exclusively a union between persons of different sexes

18) The decriminalization of soft drugs was a good measure

19) Should it be easier, wherever possible, to obtain a divorce?

20) The use of reproductive technologies, funded by the State should be forbidden to unmarried women

21) We must protect the environment, even at the expense of economic growth

22) Criminals should be punished more severely

23) Quotas for women in politics are essential to increase the quality of democracy in Portugal

24) At the current reduction in the share of immigrants is a good measure

25) There should be an extension of the areas where the European Union sets the policies

26) Portugal would be better off outside the EU than inside

27) European integration is a good thing

28) The ratification of the Lisbon Treaty as it stands, it is essential for the future of the European Union

In the next part you can rate the party leaders (Não conheço means I don’t know who this man is). Then you can the same do with the parties, These parts are not necessary to do.

Have fun Wink
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« Reply #27 on: September 02, 2009, 08:40:28 AM »

My Result: (only major parties)

PS    79,5%
B.E.  75,0%
CDU (PCP-PEV)   69,6%
PSD  48,2%
CDS-PP  41,1 %
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« Reply #28 on: September 02, 2009, 09:43:38 AM »

My Result: (only major parties)

PS    79,5%
B.E.  75,0%
CDU (PCP-PEV)   69,6%
PSD  48,2%
CDS-PP  41,1 %

Are these approval ratings for the various parties? 
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« Reply #29 on: September 02, 2009, 09:51:55 AM »


Are these approval ratings for the various parties? 

yeah
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« Reply #30 on: September 02, 2009, 02:36:41 PM »

B.E. 75.9
CDU 68.8
PS 67.9
PSD 47.3
PP 40.2
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« Reply #31 on: September 02, 2009, 03:07:11 PM »

PS 86
MEP 73
PSD 73
MMS 72.9
PDA 67
CDS-PP 65
MPT 59
BE 55
PCTP-MRPP 49
PNR 47
CDU 47
PND 46
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« Reply #32 on: September 02, 2009, 03:26:52 PM »


Hashemite, deep inside you are a socialist Cheesy
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« Reply #33 on: September 02, 2009, 07:59:33 PM »

I am an ultra-liberal in Portugal. Northeast of me there is only the wall Smiley

PSD 73.1
CDS-PP 71.3
PS 69.4
MEP 67.6
MMS 66.3
PDA 65.7
MPT 62.0
PND 60.2
BE 50.9
CDU 50.9
PNR 50.0
PCTP-MRPP 48.1
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« Reply #34 on: September 03, 2009, 04:13:40 AM »

BE 78,6%
PS 77,7%
CDU 69,6%
PCTP 65,2%
MMS 58,3%
MEP 57,1%
MPT 52,7%
PDA 46,4%
PSD 44,6%
CDS-PP 35,7%
PNR 31,3%
PND 28,6%

Agreed with BE on most things except European integration Grin
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« Reply #35 on: September 03, 2009, 06:06:14 AM »

That test just said I am right of center.
I might just have a stroke.
It probably because I answered "neutral" to a series of economics question where I didn't know the situation in Portugal so preferred not to answer.

Anyway,closest party is PS,then MMS,then MEP.
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« Reply #36 on: September 04, 2009, 02:10:29 PM »

I'll take the test in a minute, but I thought I'd report the huge scandal that broke recently.

One of our private TV networks, TVI, was recently bought by Spanish conglomerate PRISA, which is known for its closeness to the PSOE.

The Evening News on TVI had broke news related to a corruption scandal involving the licensing of a Freeport shopping mall when Sócrates was environment ministry, and it was to release new compromising documents again today, before having had its anchor fired, reportedly by an order coming directly from the PRISA CEO.

The other newspeople at the station resigned in solitary, and a huge scandal broke out regarding media pressures; the opposition had been pressing the topic of the climate of fear the PS has been fomenting, and this only adds fuel to the fire, especially coming in on the heels of accusations by a private company president connected to the PSD of pressures from the PS with threats of governmental retaliation.
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« Reply #37 on: September 04, 2009, 02:17:14 PM »

CDS 63.9%
PSD 54.6%
PCP 45.4%
PS 38.9%
BE 36.1%


LOL at having the commies ahead of the PS. Probably because of my answers on the EU.
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« Reply #38 on: September 06, 2009, 05:02:21 PM »


I did the EU Profiler test for Portugal again, and omg.

PS 77.8
MEP 70
PH 69.4
MMS 68.4
MPT 68.4
BE 63.9
CDS 60
PSD 59.8
PCP 59.5
PPM 51.7
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« Reply #39 on: September 07, 2009, 01:21:09 AM »


I did the EU Profiler test for Portugal again, and omg.

PS 77.8
MEP 70
PH 69.4
MMS 68.4
MPT 68.4
BE 63.9
CDS 60
PSD 59.8
PCP 59.5
PPM 51.7

Grin Grin Grin
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« Reply #40 on: September 11, 2009, 08:58:33 AM »

A new Poll for Portugal from Universidade Católica for RTP (Portuguese TV)
http://dn.sapo.pt/inicio/portugal/interior.aspx?content_id=1358694 (in Portuguese)

PS    37%
PSD  35%
B.E.  11%
PCP-PEV   8%
CDS-PP  6 %

No majority, maybe a the PS and B.E. have together a slight majority

2005 was the result:

PS    45,05%  120  Mandates  (this was the best result ever for the PS)
PPD/PSD    28,70%  72    (the worst result since over 20 years)
PCP-PEV   7,56%  14    (the second worst result)
CDS-PP  7,26%  12    (the third worst result)
B.E.   6,38%  8   (the best result of all times for B.E.)
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« Reply #41 on: September 11, 2009, 10:34:44 AM »

CDU 78.3%
PS 71.7%
B.E. 70.7%
PSD 53.3%
CDS-PP 45.7%
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« Reply #42 on: September 11, 2009, 03:28:26 PM »

A new Poll for Portugal from Universidade Católica for RTP (Portuguese TV)
http://dn.sapo.pt/inicio/portugal/interior.aspx?content_id=1358694 (in Portuguese)

PS    37%
PSD  35%
B.E.  11%
PCP-PEV   8%
CDS-PP  6 %

No majority, maybe a the PS and B.E. have together a slight majority

When the poll is the result, I have calculated the approximate distribution of seats would be like. The result is not good.

PS            93  mandates
PPD/PSD   92
B.E.           19
PCP-PEV   15
CDS-PP       7

When this is the result of the election, then only a great coalition is possible. PS and PPD/PSD with the same mandates, there will be no stable government.

When the PS under 1,5 % more votes, then the PPD/PSD will be more mandates in parlament. This makes all more difficult Sad
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« Reply #43 on: September 13, 2009, 04:24:17 AM »

A new Poll for Portugal from Eurosondagem for SIC (Private TV) and Rádio Renascença
http://ultimahora.publico.clix.pt/noticia.aspx?id=1400416 (in Portuguese)

PS    33,6 %
PSD  32,5 %
B.E.    9,6 %
PCP-PEV    9,4 %
CDS-PP  8,0 %

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« Reply #44 on: September 17, 2009, 12:14:18 PM »

A new Poll for Portugal from Universidade Católica for RTP (Public TV) and Diário de Notícias (Journal)
http://ultimahora.publico.clix.pt/noticia.aspx?id=1401161(in Portuguese)

PS    38 %
PSD  32 %
B.E.    12 %
PCP-PEV    7 %
CDS-PP  7 %

With this result a coalition between PS and B. E. is possible.
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« Reply #45 on: September 19, 2009, 09:14:00 AM »
« Edited: September 19, 2009, 09:16:13 AM by Hans-im-Glück »

A new Poll for Portugal from Intercampus for TVI (Private TV) and Púbico (Journal) and Rádio Clube Português.
http://www.tvi24.iol.pt/politica/ps-sondagem-intercampus-tvi24-psd/1090099-4072.html (in Portuguese)

PS    32,9 %
PSD  29,7 %
B.E.    12 %
PCP-PEV    9,2 %
CDS-PP  7 %

Only 7,8 % of respondents don't know which party they want to vote. 71,8% have make their decision. 6,4 % don't know they go to the election. The rest don't want to vote.
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« Reply #46 on: September 19, 2009, 03:44:37 PM »

One week to the election in Portugal. It's time for my prediction for every district


Açores   5 Mandates (n/c); PS 3 (n/c), PPD/PSD 2 (n/c), PCP-PEV0 (n/c), CDS-PP 0 (n/c), B. E. 0(n/c)

Aveiro     16 Mandates (+1);  PS 6 (-2), PPD/PSD 8 (+2), PCP-PEV 0 (n/c), CDS-PP 1 (n/c), B. E. 1 (+1) Here it's possible that the last seat goes from the PSD to the B.E., but i don't think so

Beja         3 Mandates (n/c); PS 2 (n/c), PPD/PSD 0 (n/c), PCP-PEV 1 (n/c), CDS-PP 0 (n/c), B. E. 0 (n/c),

Braga       19 Mandates (+1); PS 7 (-2), PPD/PSD 8 (+1), PCP-PEV 1 (n/c), CDS-PP 1 (n/c), B. E. 2 (+2) The last seat can go from the PCP to the PS, When the B.E. have a good result, then they have 2 seats here. Last time they need only a few votes to get 1 Mandate

Bragança       3 Mandates (-1); PS 1 (-1), PPD/PSD 2 (n/c), PCP-PEV 0 (n/c), CDS-PP 0 (n/c), B. E. 0 (n/c)

Castelo Branco    4 Mandates (-1);  PS 3 (-1), PPD/PSD 1 (n/c), PCP-PEV 0 (n/c), CDS-PP 0 (n/c), B. E. 0 (n/c); 2005 here was a José Sócrates hype. This is his district and i don't know it's the same this time. Maybe the last seat goes from the PS to the PSD

Coimbra   10 Mandates (n/c); PS 5 (-1), PPD/PSD 4 (n/c), PCP-PEV 0 (n/c), CDS-PP 0 (n/c), B. E. 1 (+1)

Évora     3 Mandates (n/c); PS 2 (n/c), PPD/PSD 0 (n/c), PCP-PEV 1 (n/c), CDS-PP 0 (n/c), B. E. 0 (n/c); The first seat is safe to the PS, but the 2 others are very close be teen the PS, PSD and the PCP. Also possible is 1-1-1 or 2-1-0

Faro     8 Mandates (n/c);  PS 4 (-2), PPD/PSD 3 (+1), PCP-PEV 0 (n/c), CDS-PP 0 (n/c), B. E. 1 (+1); when the PCP have a very good result here, then they get the last seat from the PSD or the PS, but I don't think so

Guarda     4 Mandates (n/c);  PS 2 (n/c), PPD/PSD 2 (n/c), PCP-PEV 0 (n/c), CDS-PP 0 (n/c), B. E. 0 (n/c)

Leiria     10 Mandates (n/c);  PS 3 (-1), PPD/PSD 5 (n/c), PCP-PEV 0 (n/c), CDS-PP 1 (n/c), B. E. 1 (+1)

Lisbon     47 Mandates (-1);  PS 19 (-4), PPD/PSD 13 (+1), PCP-PEV 4 (-1), CDS-PP 4 (n/c), B. E. 7 (+3); For the B.E. is the 7th seat not safe and the last seat from the PS and CDS are unsafe too.

Madeira     6 Mandates (n/c);  PS 2 (-1), PPD/PSD 4 (+1), PCP-PEV 0 (n/c), CDS-PP 0 (n/c), B. E. 0 (n/c)

Portalegre     2 Mandates (n/c);  PS 2 (n/c), PPD/PSD 0 (n/c), PCP-PEV 0 (n/c), CDS-PP 0 (n/c), B. E. 0 (n/c); the seconds seat is close between the PS and the PSD

Porto     39 Mandates (+1);  PS 17 (-3), PPD/PSD 13 (+1), PCP-PEV 2 (n/c), CDS-PP 2 (n/c), B. E. 5 (+3), All last seats are not safe, PCP and CDS have normally no problem to get 2 Mandates

Santarém     10 Mandates (n/c);  PS 5 (-1), PPD/PSD 3 (n/c), PCP-PEV 1 (n/c), CDS-PP 0 (n/c), B. E. 1 (+1), The last seat is very close between PS and PSD; the CDS  have a small chance for the last seat when their result in Santarém is better than average

Setúbal     17 Mandates (n/c);  PS 7 (-1), PPD/PSD 3 (n/c), PCP-PEV 3 (n/c), CDS-PP 1 (n/c), B. E. 3 (+1); The seat of the CDS isn't safe, Maybe the PSD and the PCP get tone seat from the CDS and B. E.

Viana do Castelo     6 Mandates (n/c);  PS 3 (n/c), PPD/PSD 3 (+1), PCP-PEV 0 (n/c), CDS-PP 0 (-1), B. E. 0 (n/c) the last seat is close between the PS and the CDS

Vila Real     5 Mandates (n/c); PS 2 (-1), PPD/PSD 3 (+1), PCP-PEV 0 (n/c), CDS-PP 0 (n/c), B. E. 0 (n/c)

Viseu     9 Mandates (n/c); PS 3 (-1), PPD/PSD 5 (+1), PCP-PEV 0 (n/c), CDS-PP 0 (-1), B. E. 1 (+1); the last seat is very close between the B. E., the PS and the CDS. I think the B. E. have the better chance

PORTUGAL TOTAL

PS     98 (-22)
PSD   82 (+10)
PCP   13 (-1)
CDS   10 (-2)
B. E.   23 (+15)

The B. E. have many close seats and maybe the result of them is 20.

The result for the Portuguese Abroad will be the same like every time

Europe - PS 1, PSD 1; the last time the PS was close to get both seats, but this don't happen this time

Rest of the World - PSD 2; When the PS have a very good result here they can get the second seat

I one week we can see my prediction is good or not Wink
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« Reply #47 on: September 22, 2009, 02:13:44 PM »

No changes in the Polls. The PS have still a 3-7% lead. The B. E. will have their best result and maybe over 10%. In a Marktest poll they have 16%, but this can be only a joke Cheesy

Here on this site is a overview of all polls for the election next sunday

http://www.marktest.com/wap/a/p/id~f8.aspx

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« Reply #48 on: September 23, 2009, 11:50:47 AM »

No, the PPM have a own list and the MPT (center-right-green) is together with the Partido Humanista. I think they have no chance to come in the parlament
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« Reply #49 on: September 24, 2009, 11:32:16 AM »
« Edited: September 24, 2009, 11:38:53 AM by Hans-im-Glück »

A new poll from Marktest for Diario Economico and TSF.PT
http://www.clipping.mediamonitor.pt/pdfTemp/etn_6790649_999999_0.pdf

PS     40,0
PSD   31,6
PCP     7,2
CDS   8,2
B. E.   9,0

The Projection  of Marktest for the Parlament is:

PS     105 (-16)
PSD   81 (+6)
PCP   13 (-1)
CDS   14 (+2)
B. E.   17 (+9)

The difference between PS and PSD is with 8,4% the highest since many month.
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