Will college-educated suburban whites ever return to the GOP?
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« Reply #25 on: April 06, 2021, 12:07:22 PM »

Assuming the GOP doesn't collapse as a viable political force, in fact it's almost inevitable that they eventually will. However for this to happen America will need to become non-white enough that the current race based lens that politics is currently viewed through naturally dissolves as future generations come to see themselves as just American as opposed to <fill in the blank> American. Alongside this, the most egregious causes of debt for the children of the educated middle classes will have to be solved: student debt, high rents, high property prices, extortionate healthcare etc. With both racial identity and extreme economic inequity gone, or at least severely diminished, politics will realign more along the 'traditional' lines of the wealthier (regardless of education) leaning right and the poorer leaning left. This will be a long process though and won't happen any time soon, although it could be argued that the Biden presidency is potentially the first of many steps in this direction.
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« Reply #26 on: April 06, 2021, 02:42:18 PM »

But what is the GOP doing to appeal to them exactly? 

In the last 4 years the GOP has:

- gone on a crusade against science

- packed the Supreme Court with extremists who are out of touch on guns, abortion, environmental issues

- put a SALT cap that basically targets people making 150-500k a year for a tax increase, while giving big businesses and boomers sitting by the pool a tax break

- tried to create race wars that divide their communities

- ranted non-stop about "elites" and portrayed themselves as the "real Americans" unlike the out of touch people in and outside of big cities. 

The reality is that college-educated suburbanites have more in common with the people in the big cities they commute to for work than they do with the rural people who form the base of the Republican Party.  The GOP is out of touch with them culturally and isn't offering the traditional incentives of a tax cut or fiscal responsibility.  Before these people had a choice, social issues or fiscal issues, now it's a no brainer.

Well they actually do have some strong suits. College-educated suburban whites don't support "defund the police" and been frustrated with school closures. And I don't think they want large tax hikes either. They may not like Trump, but they aren't enamored with the democrats' policy positions, espeically on kitchen-table issues.

Problem is, the culture war stuff is what brings in the working class and rural voters. Also, economic populism probably won't do too well with suburbanites as it does in WWC areas. It's very difficult to find a balance to appeal to both blocs.

Assuming the GOP doesn't collapse as a viable political force, in fact it's almost inevitable that they eventually will. However for this to happen America will need to become non-white enough that the current race based lens that politics is currently viewed through naturally dissolves as future generations come to see themselves as just American as opposed to <fill in the blank> American. Alongside this, the most egregious causes of debt for the children of the educated middle classes will have to be solved: student debt, high rents, high property prices, extortionate healthcare etc. With both racial identity and extreme economic inequity gone, or at least severely diminished, politics will realign more along the 'traditional' lines of the wealthier (regardless of education) leaning right and the poorer leaning left. This will be a long process though and won't happen any time soon, although it could be argued that the Biden presidency is potentially the first of many steps in this direction.

The GOP has made some noticeable gains with working-class minorities. A party that exclusively appeals to the interests of the white working-class will struggle to remain relevant. Adding their peers of color will keep them competitive.
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« Reply #27 on: April 06, 2021, 03:27:06 PM »

Maybe in a limited amount, such as with Mormons and those in key industries. It's easier for the GOP to drive an educational/class/cultural wedge among minorities than to bring increasingly more liberal college whites back into the fold.
Why try to compete in blueing places like suburban Austin when you can reframe/translate your current platform in South TX?
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« Reply #28 on: April 11, 2021, 04:01:01 PM »

The word "suburban" is doing a lot of work there and is poorly defined, but...uh...I don't think the Trump-era GOP lost among college-educated suburban whites? (I mean, certainly it did relative to Romney, but overall). Edison Research's exit poll has white voters with a college degree breaking for Trump over Hillary 49/45 and then for Biden over Trump 51/48. Once you consider how strongly Democratic white urban college-educated voters are, you're left with the conclusion that suburban white college-educated voters basically have to be strongly Republican, or the math doesn't add up. The reason that many of these suburban communities are no longer voting Republican is that they are no longer as white, or that they are urbanizing because of general economic growth.

But there is a long-term Democratic trend among this demographic (but, even if you add in the urban voters, Biden won white college-educated voters by less than he won Americans). Given general international education polarization trends, I think it's likely to persist, but also given downballot results in 2020 (where Republicans other than Trump tended to run ahead of him in areas with many white college-educated voters; no doubt that the 2020 House GOP won white college-educated voters) it's easy to imagine a dead-cat bounce in 2022/2024 now that Trump is no longer on the ballot. Longer than that depends on what issues come to the fore and the style that Republican nominees adopt.
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