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« on: September 27, 2004, 07:59:07 PM »
« edited: September 28, 2004, 06:13:39 PM by Sen. King »

This amendment to our Forum Constitution is hereby introduced by Senator King on September 27th, 2004.

The definition of an organized party as stated in Article V, Clause 6 shall be changed to:

Any political party with a party platform and either five members or an elected official is to be considered an organized political party.

I find the current recognition of an organized political party in our Constitution unfair, considering that the AFIP and AFLP parties are quite organized and powerful despite having less than ten members.
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« Reply #1 on: September 27, 2004, 08:07:11 PM »

This amendment to our Forum Constitution is hereby introduced by Senator King on September 27th, 2004.

The definition of an organized party as stated in Article V, Clause 6 shall be changed to:

Any political party with at least five members, a party platform, and/or an elected official is to be considered an organized political party.

I find the current recognition of an organized political party in our Constitution unfair, considering that the AFIP and AFLP parties are quite organized and powerful despite having less than ten members.

What have the AFLP done that makes them organized and powerful?
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« Reply #2 on: September 27, 2004, 08:45:11 PM »

I second that this amendment be brought to consideration.
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« Reply #3 on: September 27, 2004, 08:47:29 PM »

This amendment to our Forum Constitution is hereby introduced by Senator King on September 27th, 2004.

The definition of an organized party as stated in Article V, Clause 6 shall be changed to:

Any political party with at least five members, a party platform, and/or an elected official is to be considered an organized political party.

I find the current recognition of an organized political party in our Constitution unfair, considering that the AFIP and AFLP parties are quite organized and powerful despite having less than ten members.

What have the AFLP done that makes them organized and powerful?

Well the AFIP is organized and powerful. The LP is just organized...
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« Reply #4 on: September 27, 2004, 09:25:09 PM »

I like it
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« Reply #5 on: September 27, 2004, 09:59:36 PM »

The and/or part makes this a little ambiguous.

In my opinion:

A party platform is definitely required in all cases.

Either having  5 members, or an elected official, should be the second requirement.  I think that federally appointed offices- cabinet, Supreme Court- should also qualify as an elected official.
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« Reply #6 on: September 28, 2004, 05:39:27 PM »

This amendment to our Forum Constitution is hereby introduced by Senator King on September 27th, 2004.

The definition of an organized party as stated in Article V, Clause 6 shall be changed to:

Any political party with at least five members, a party platform, and/or an elected official is to be considered an organized political party.

I find the current recognition of an organized political party in our Constitution unfair, considering that the AFIP and AFLP parties are quite organized and powerful despite having less than ten members.

The AFIP is powerful but not organized, and the AFLP is organized but not powerful.

I have nothing against this amendment.
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« Reply #7 on: September 28, 2004, 06:13:24 PM »

I took Fritz's recommendations and revised the amendment. Smiley
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« Reply #8 on: September 29, 2004, 06:27:42 PM »

*bump*
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« Reply #9 on: October 02, 2004, 10:46:55 PM »
« Edited: October 02, 2004, 10:47:29 PM by Sen. King »

Is a week considered five or seven days by the Senate? If its five, any debate should stop in 13 minutes.
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« Reply #10 on: October 02, 2004, 11:26:03 PM »

A week has traditionally been considered to be seven days.  There are several Constitution provisions unrelated to the Senatorial Procedure Act that give seven days as the time required to do things.  I suppose we could even use a French Revolutionary Calendar week of ten days, but today is 3 October 2004, not 12 Vendemiaire 213, so probably not.
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« Reply #11 on: October 04, 2004, 04:20:22 PM »

Alright, it has been 7 days. PPT Harry or Vice President Andrew needs to open up a vote.
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« Reply #12 on: October 05, 2004, 10:17:12 AM »

Hehe, we're not quite so organized any more Smiley  I support this bill.
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« Reply #13 on: October 05, 2004, 05:40:23 PM »

Hehe, we're not quite so organized any more Smiley  I support this bill.

Well for the future, incase a new  party is formed.
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« Reply #14 on: October 06, 2004, 02:30:04 PM »

Being that the PPT is absent...

All those in favor say AYE
All those against say NAY.
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« Reply #15 on: October 06, 2004, 02:54:40 PM »

Nay.
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« Reply #16 on: October 06, 2004, 05:39:13 PM »

Aye.
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« Reply #17 on: October 06, 2004, 08:09:28 PM »

Aye Smiley
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« Reply #18 on: October 07, 2004, 11:36:19 PM »

Nay.
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« Reply #19 on: October 10, 2004, 10:49:47 PM »

Aye
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« Reply #20 on: October 11, 2004, 05:53:07 AM »

Aye
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« Reply #21 on: October 12, 2004, 09:55:52 PM »

Voting ends TOMORROW.
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« Reply #22 on: October 13, 2004, 01:59:51 PM »

Voting is closed. Since the majority of the Senate voted this vote passes 4 to 2.
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