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« Reply #8575 on: August 17, 2011, 08:02:49 PM »
« edited: August 17, 2011, 10:03:15 PM by Does anybody else miss Bill Clinton? »


I don't think von Kluck has turned yet.  The way it is going, he might not turn southwest until he reaches Versailles.  Wink


There is a tragedy to it all.

My parents remember the USA as the folks who saved them when they were growing up in Nazi occupied Europe.

As a small child, I remember the USA as the nation that was putting a man on the moon.

Oddly, even Watergate was something that inspired me about America because the USA was a place where even the President would be taken down if they broke the laws and violated the values of the Society.

I lived in the US for parts of the 80s and 90s, and even then it was a place of  opportunity and exceptionalism.

I am not sure your nation can stand another failed Presidency.




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« Reply #8576 on: August 17, 2011, 08:49:18 PM »
« Edited: August 17, 2011, 10:07:13 PM by J. J. »



I lived in the US for parts of the 80s and 90s, and even them it was a place of  opportunity and exceptional ism.

I am not sure your nation can stand another failed Presidency.


Our nation has experienced many failed presidencies, and survived well.  It is what comes after that presidency that is important.

It also can mark the re-birth of opportunity and exceptionalism.  We are much greater than our failed leaders, and there were even greater failures.
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« Reply #8577 on: August 17, 2011, 10:02:24 PM »


Our nation has experienced many failed presidencies, and survived well.  It is what comes after that presidency that is important.

It also can mark the re-birth of opportunity and exceptionalism.  We are much greater than our failed leaders, and there were even greater failures.

Winston Churchill once said that:

"The Americans will eventually do the right thing... after having first exhausted all other available options..."

Perhaps "this too shall pass....." but it is indeed sad to see the current goings on.
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« Reply #8578 on: August 18, 2011, 12:19:48 AM »

Obama's trough pales in comprison to J.J.'s romantic trough which has lasted 49 years.
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« Reply #8579 on: August 18, 2011, 04:02:58 AM »

Obama's trough pales in comprison to J.J.'s romantic trough which has lasted 49 years.

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« Reply #8580 on: August 18, 2011, 08:30:17 AM »

Obama's trough pales in comprison to J.J.'s romantic trough which has lasted 49 years.

I can assure my peaks were substantially higher than Obama's.

You sound as if a lot of you recession has been a permanent condition.
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« Reply #8581 on: August 18, 2011, 08:38:39 AM »


Rasmussen Obama (National)

Approve 43, u.

Disapprove 54%, -1.

"Strongly Approve" is at 19%, -1.  "Strongly Disapprove" is at 42%, u.

There is a chance that the Strongly Approve number is due to a slight anti-Obama sample.  If so it should be out tomorrow.
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« Reply #8582 on: August 18, 2011, 12:49:54 PM »

http://www.gallup.com/poll/124922/Presidential-Job-Approval-Center.aspx

Gallup, meh:

Approve:  40%, u.

Disapprove:  52%, u.
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« Reply #8583 on: August 18, 2011, 03:28:24 PM »

His ratings are not bad about same as Clinton and Reagan around this time in their Presidencies.like like Jimmy Carter who was 30% around this time in his 3rd year in office.
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« Reply #8584 on: August 18, 2011, 03:58:08 PM »

His ratings are not bad about same as Clinton and Reagan around this time in their Presidencies.like like Jimmy Carter who was 30% around this time in his 3rd year in office.

Actually, his numbers are lower than every other president at this point in time in their first (and sometimes only) term, except for Jimmy Carter.  Carter was improving at this point.  At best Obama is static.
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« Reply #8585 on: August 19, 2011, 08:35:50 AM »


Rasmussen Obama (National)

Approve 45, +1.

Disapprove 53%, -1.

"Strongly Approve" is at 21%, +2.  "Strongly Disapprove" is at 41%, -1.

I think a slightly anti-Obama sample dropped out.
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« Reply #8586 on: August 19, 2011, 09:05:20 AM »

Obama down to 32% approval!!!

http://www.harrisinteractive.com/NewsRoom/HarrisPolls/tabid/447/ctl/ReadCustom%20Default/mid/1508/ArticleId/847/Default.aspx
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« Reply #8587 on: August 19, 2011, 09:27:15 AM »


Harris was using adults, not registered voters.  The company has been around for a while, but I always thought that it, historically, wasn't as good as Gallup.

Gallup has had some problems as of late (since 2008).
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« Reply #8588 on: August 19, 2011, 09:52:56 AM »


Interactive polls are a waste of the electrons used in transmitting both raw data and the conclusions. 
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« Reply #8589 on: August 19, 2011, 10:29:41 AM »

I wish we had someone like Hillary2012, except going around posting junk polls with Obama having 60%+ approval.






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« Reply #8590 on: August 19, 2011, 10:37:50 AM »

I wish we had someone like Hillary2012, except going around posting junk polls with Obama having 60%+ approval.

Harris isn't a "junk pollster," but conversely, it is far from the best out there. 

I don't think it was "interactive," technically.  It looks like they used e-mail to choose the sample, but there would have been some prescreening.  That selection, limiting it to adults with Internet aspects, further weakens the numbers, however.
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« Reply #8591 on: August 19, 2011, 10:54:26 AM »

Harris is using an Excellent/Good/Fair/Poor scale and therefore they are underestimating Obama's approval by about 10-15%. The vast majority of "Fair" goes to "Approve" in a Approve/Disapprove poll.
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« Reply #8592 on: August 19, 2011, 11:05:34 AM »


Rasmussen Obama (National)

Approve 45, +1.

Disapprove 53%, -1.

"Strongly Approve" is at 21%, +2.  "Strongly Disapprove" is at 41%, -1.

I think a slightly anti-Obama sample dropped out.

The anger over the Debt Ceiling travesty may be abating, perhaps to the benefit of most politicians.
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« Reply #8593 on: August 19, 2011, 12:03:40 PM »

Gallup @ 40% Approval, 52% Disapproval.
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« Reply #8594 on: August 19, 2011, 12:25:46 PM »

Gallup @ 40% Approval, 52% Disapproval.

Is that the update or yesterday's numbers?
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« Reply #8595 on: August 19, 2011, 12:36:22 PM »

http://www.gallup.com/poll/124922/Presidential-Job-Approval-Center.aspx

Gallup, meh:

Approve:  40%, u.

Disapprove:  53%, +1.

Answered my own question, Odysseus.  Smiley

The approval number is off its low, but Disapprove is tied for the highest.

Von Kluck still heading west and north of Paris.
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« Reply #8596 on: August 19, 2011, 12:38:14 PM »


Rasmussen Obama (National)

Approve 45, +1.

Disapprove 53%, -1.

"Strongly Approve" is at 21%, +2.  "Strongly Disapprove" is at 41%, -1.

I think a slightly anti-Obama sample dropped out.

The anger over the Debt Ceiling travesty may be abating, perhaps to the benefit of most politicians.

More likely, just a bad sample, as I noted yesterday.
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« Reply #8597 on: August 19, 2011, 01:52:47 PM »

Gallup @ 40% Approval, 52% Disapproval.

Is that the update or yesterday's numbers?

Aha!

Not much change either way, though.
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« Reply #8598 on: August 19, 2011, 02:54:55 PM »

Gallup @ 40% Approval, 52% Disapproval.

Is that the update or yesterday's numbers?

Aha!

Not much change either way, though.

I'm only watching Gallup so closely for one reaso:  A change.

And don't worry about it.  I just put Terry Madonna in Mulenburg University instead of F & M.  Smiley
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« Reply #8599 on: August 19, 2011, 04:19:14 PM »


Rasmussen Obama (National)

Approve 45, +1.

Disapprove 53%, -1.

"Strongly Approve" is at 21%, +2.  "Strongly Disapprove" is at 41%, -1.

I think a slightly anti-Obama sample dropped out.

The anger over the Debt Ceiling travesty may be abating, perhaps to the benefit of most politicians.

More likely, just a bad sample, as I noted yesterday.

In a few weeks, much of the anger over the Deficit Ceiling fiasco will have abated. Question: who comes out of it less scathed? Who recovers and who doesn't? If the polls from the time of the fiasco (and it is that) show up in October, they may look funny. "So how is it that President Obama can have an approval rating around 45% and lead every Republican in in Wisconsin or Ohio when he now gets a 46% approval rating in Georgia and is apparently tied with Romney?"... We may see much of that for a while. PPP would surely like to poll a state that it rarely polls -- let us say Kentucky or Maine -- one of these weeks.

...I am not using the F&M poll -- paradoxically it would look better for President Obama in a state that frequently gets polled because there he leads "Generic Republican" and, I would have to assume, every imaginable Republican nominee.   
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