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« Reply #6900 on: December 14, 2010, 09:55:04 am »



Rasmussen Obama (National)

Approve 45%, +1.

Disapprove 54%, -1.  (should have been +2 yesterday)

"Strongly Approve" is at 23%, -1.  "Strongly Disapprove" is at 41%, u.

Possible bad sample.
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« Reply #6901 on: December 14, 2010, 11:03:12 am »

Wisconsin (PPP):

47% Approve
46% Disapprove

PPP surveyed 702 Wisconsin voters and 510 Ohio voters from December 10th to December 12th. For Ohio the survey’s margin of error is +/-4.3% and for Wisconsin the survey’s margin of error is +/-3.7%. Other factors, such as refusal to be interviewed and weighting, may introduce additional error that is more difficult to quantify.

http://www.publicpolicypolling.com/pdf/PPP_Release_OHWI_1213.pdf
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« Reply #6902 on: December 14, 2010, 11:05:05 am »

All 3 polls (OH, VA and WI) indicate that Obama's approval nationwide is now roughly 44%-ish.
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« Reply #6903 on: December 14, 2010, 12:07:02 pm »

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Well...okay.

The "devil you know" mentality rules the day.

And after two years, Obama is still an enigma.

And yet he is leading the entire known GOP field in Ohio of all places!  I agree it seems odd given his approval, but he is polling at a 2008 repeat just about everywhere he's been tested, and that's with an economy that will likely improve over the next 2 years.

You don't understand the ABO vote.  I'm not part of it.
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« Reply #6904 on: December 14, 2010, 04:32:14 pm »

Zogby has Obama at 39%. I was all WTF, then I realised it was Zogby.

I'm posting this before Hillaryin2012 discovers the "poll" and fills the thread with yet more hackery.
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« Reply #6905 on: December 15, 2010, 09:43:40 am »



Rasmussen Obama (National)

Approve 45%, u.

Disapprove 54%, u.

"Strongly Approve" is at 22%, -1.  "Strongly Disapprove" is at 41%, u.

The Strongly Approve number is tied with the lowest since Obama was elected.  There may have been some slight downward pressure overall.
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« Reply #6906 on: December 15, 2010, 02:57:33 pm »

The strongly disapprove numbers seem a little low as well. It looks like views towards Obama are getting less polarized, which is an excellent sign for his re-election chances.
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« Reply #6907 on: December 15, 2010, 03:18:07 pm »

The strongly disapprove numbers seem a little low as well. It looks like views towards Obama are getting less polarized, which is an excellent sign for his re-election chances.

He needs that number to go down into the low 30's before he can relax, especially if he stays under 50% approve.
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« Reply #6908 on: December 15, 2010, 06:35:12 pm »

Thanx Gov Oakvale
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« Reply #6909 on: December 15, 2010, 06:42:16 pm »

The strongly disapprove numbers seem a little low as well. It looks like views towards Obama are getting less polarized, which is an excellent sign for his re-election chances.

Actually his disapproval numbers are tending to be higher than previous presidents at the same point in time.
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« Reply #6910 on: December 15, 2010, 10:59:17 pm »

The strongly disapprove numbers seem a little low as well. It looks like views towards Obama are getting less polarized, which is an excellent sign for his re-election chances.

Actually his disapproval numbers are tending to be higher than previous presidents at the same point in time.

Of course no President in recent times has been so vilified so early and so vehemently. Before one bring up Dubya, he had yet to invade Iraq.
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« Reply #6911 on: December 15, 2010, 11:23:58 pm »

The strongly disapprove numbers seem a little low as well. It looks like views towards Obama are getting less polarized, which is an excellent sign for his re-election chances.

Actually his disapproval numbers are tending to be higher than previous presidents at the same point in time.

Of course no President in recent times has been so vilified so early and so vehemently. Before one bring up Dubya, he had yet to invade Iraq.
Please...spare us.  You get what you give out.  Obama vilified hardworking real Americans (not the eurocentric, one world crowd) before he even assumed power and went to a church for 20 years that spewed hatred of the country.  Bitter clingers...punish our enemies and reward our friends...flipping off both Hillary and McCain in speeches....soliloquies in his book about his hatred of whites...He is getting what he deserves, and he deserves yet more because he needs to feel the pain and anger he has caused this nation while he works to destroy it.  He needs all of the pain he has caused to be returned tenfold upon himself.  The sick thing though, is that he probably feeds off of the pain...like a monster does.  He enjoys it and it pleasures him to see so many people suffering.  Maybe we should lay off for that reason and deprive him such pleasure.
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« Reply #6912 on: December 15, 2010, 11:35:38 pm »

The strongly disapprove numbers seem a little low as well. It looks like views towards Obama are getting less polarized, which is an excellent sign for his re-election chances.

Actually his disapproval numbers are tending to be higher than previous presidents at the same point in time.

Of course no President in recent times has been so vilified so early and so vehemently. Before one bring up Dubya, he had yet to invade Iraq.
Please...spare us.  You get what you give out.  Obama vilified hardworking real Americans (not the eurocentric, one world crowd) before he even assumed power and went to a church for 20 years that spewed hatred of the country.  Bitter clingers...punish our enemies and reward our friends...flipping off both Hillary and McCain in speeches....soliloquies in his book about his hatred of whites...He is getting what he deserves, and he deserves yet more because he needs to feel the pain and anger he has caused this nation while he works to destroy it.  He needs all of the pain he has caused to be returned tenfold upon himself.  The sick thing though, is that he probably feeds off of the pain...like a monster does.  He enjoys it and it pleasures him to see so many people suffering.  Maybe we should lay off for that reason and deprive him such pleasure.

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« Reply #6913 on: December 16, 2010, 12:13:05 am »

The strongly disapprove numbers seem a little low as well. It looks like views towards Obama are getting less polarized, which is an excellent sign for his re-election chances.

Actually his disapproval numbers are tending to be higher than previous presidents at the same point in time.

Of course no President in recent times has been so vilified so early and so vehemently. Before one brings up Dubya, he had yet to invade Iraq.

Please...spare us.  You get what you give out.  Obama vilified hardworking real Americans (not the eurocentric, one world crowd) before he even assumed power and went to a church for 20 years that spewed hatred of the country.  Bitter clingers...punish our enemies and reward our friends...flipping off both Hillary and McCain in speeches....soliloquies in his book about his hatred of whites...He is getting what he deserves, and he deserves yet more because he needs to feel the pain and anger he has caused this nation while he works to destroy it.  He needs all of the pain he has caused to be returned tenfold upon himself.  The sick thing though, is that he probably feeds off of the pain...like a monster does.  He enjoys it and it pleasures him to see so many people suffering.  Maybe we should lay off for that reason and deprive him such pleasure.

When the GOP speaks of hard-working "real" people it almost always refers to those who have a harder time spending all the income that they earn. I don't give a d@mn about our poor, starving, underpaid executives who get multi-million-dollar compensation for treating working people badly. I'm talking as a rule about people don't have some supervisor breathing down their necks, berating them for every slackening in effort.

Punish enemies and reward friends? That is the spoils system that Andrew Jackson introduced.

Please don't attribute vindictive sadism to this President. He is neither vindictive nor cruel. Saying such about him may say much more about you than about President Obama.   
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« Reply #6914 on: December 16, 2010, 12:23:41 am »

I'm so glad that someone remembers the "flipping off" incidents.  I think they speak more about Obama's character than just about anything else.

And I find it funny that those incidents would apparently offend somebody like you.
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« Reply #6915 on: December 16, 2010, 12:37:20 am »

The strongly disapprove numbers seem a little low as well. It looks like views towards Obama are getting less polarized, which is an excellent sign for his re-election chances.

Actually his disapproval numbers are tending to be higher than previous presidents at the same point in time.

Of course no President in recent times has been so vilified so early and so vehemently. Before one bring up Dubya, he had yet to invade Iraq.
Please...spare us.  You get what you give out.  Obama vilified hardworking real Americans (not the eurocentric, one world crowd) before he even assumed power and went to a church for 20 years that spewed hatred of the country.  Bitter clingers...punish our enemies and reward our friends...flipping off both Hillary and McCain in speeches....soliloquies in his book about his hatred of whites...He is getting what he deserves, and he deserves yet more because he needs to feel the pain and anger he has caused this nation while he works to destroy it.  He needs all of the pain he has caused to be returned tenfold upon himself.  The sick thing though, is that he probably feeds off of the pain...like a monster does.  He enjoys it and it pleasures him to see so many people suffering.  Maybe we should lay off for that reason and deprive him such pleasure.

a) lay off the meds

b) have you read the books? I have and would absolutely LOVE to see where he hates white people, given the adoration he gives to his mother and grandmother... who were... oh my!!!

c) lay off the meds

d) also... talking about  the effects 'hard working Americans'... when it was the Republicans who gutted public education and economic regulation and wanted to continue tax breaks for those who had shifted those people's jobs overseas?... then wanted to cut off their unemployment ...?

The country is scared and angry, not because of Obama, because of the economy that Obama had no hand in creating imploded... they need to blame someone I guess.
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« Reply #6916 on: December 16, 2010, 08:46:15 am »

Pennsylvania (Quinnipiac):

44% Approve
43% Disapprove

From December 6 - 13, Quinnipiac University surveyed 1,584 Pennsylvania voters, with a margin of error of +/- 2.5 percentage points.

http://www.quinnipiac.edu/x1327.xml?ReleaseID=1544
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« Reply #6917 on: December 16, 2010, 09:36:51 am »


Rasmussen Obama (National)

Approve 47%, +2.

Disapprove 53%, -1.

"Strongly Approve" is at 24%, +2.  "Strongly Disapprove" is at 41%, u.

A bad Obama sample dropped out.
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« Reply #6918 on: December 16, 2010, 09:56:58 am »

The strongly disapprove numbers seem a little low as well. It looks like views towards Obama are getting less polarized, which is an excellent sign for his re-election chances.

Actually his disapproval numbers are tending to be higher than previous presidents at the same point in time.

Of course no President in recent times has been so vilified so early and so vehemently. Before one brings up Dubya, he had yet to invade Iraq.

Please...spare us.  You get what you give out.  Obama vilified hardworking real Americans (not the eurocentric, one world crowd) before he even assumed power and went to a church for 20 years that spewed hatred of the country.  Bitter clingers...punish our enemies and reward our friends...flipping off both Hillary and McCain in speeches....soliloquies in his book about his hatred of whites...He is getting what he deserves, and he deserves yet more because he needs to feel the pain and anger he has caused this nation while he works to destroy it.  He needs all of the pain he has caused to be returned tenfold upon himself.  The sick thing though, is that he probably feeds off of the pain...like a monster does.  He enjoys it and it pleasures him to see so many people suffering.  Maybe we should lay off for that reason and deprive him such pleasure.

When the GOP speaks of hard-working "real" people it almost always refers to those who have a harder time spending all the income that they earn. I don't give a d@mn about our poor, starving, underpaid executives who get multi-million-dollar compensation for treating working people badly. I'm talking as a rule about people don't have some supervisor breathing down their necks, berating them for every slackening in effort.

Punish enemies and reward friends? That is the spoils system that Andrew Jackson introduced.

Please don't attribute vindictive sadism to this President. He is neither vindictive nor cruel. Saying such about him may say much more about you than about President Obama.   

Actually, Clinton and Reagan, were probably all more greatly vilified during their first two years and all had lower disapproval ratings.  Carter generally had lower disapproval rates, and in July 1973, Nixon had lower disapproval numbers.

These are Gallup to Gallup numbers here:  http://www.usatoday.com/news/washington/presidential-approval-tracker.htm

It looks like it started May to July 2009.
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« Reply #6919 on: December 16, 2010, 11:38:51 am »
« Edited: December 17, 2010, 11:11:50 am by pbrower2a »

Quinnipiac, Pennsylvania, 44-42.

 The large number of undecided  make it a bit questionable, so I am giving it an "S". It will not be averaged against any later polls because it could make a mess of a later poll that doesn't have 14% undecided. if it is averaged in. It's not the 2% margin that is spurious; it's that it could really be 44-47 or 44-51 as easily as 53-42 or 49-42.  
 



Key:


<40% with Disapproval Higher: 40% Orange (50% if 60%-69% or higher disapproval); 90% red if >70%
40-42% with Disapproval Higher: 50% Yellow  
43% to 45% with Disapproval Higher: 40% Yellow  
46-49% with Disapproval Higher: 30% Yellow  
<50% with Approval Equal: 10% Yellow (really white)

<50%  Approval greater: 20% Green
50-55%: 40% Green
56-59%: 60% Green
60%+: 80% Green
DC, what else could you expect?


Months (All polls are from 2010):

A -  January     G -  July
B -  February   H -  August
C -  March        I -  September
D -  April          J  -  October
E -  May           K -  November
F -   June         L -   December

 

S - suspect poll (examples for such a qualification: strange crosstabs, likely inversion of the report (for inversions, only for polls above 55% or below 45%...  let's say Vermont 35% approval or Oklahoma 65% approval), or more than 10% undecided. Anyone who suggests that a poll is suspect must explain why it is suspect.

Partisan polls and polls for special interests (trade associations, labor unions, ethnic associations) are excluded.

Z- no recent poll

MY CURRENT PREDICTION OF THE 2012 PRESIDENTIAL ELECTION

(before any campaigning begins in earnest)Sad

assuming no significant changes before early 2012 -- snicker, snicker!



District of Columbia, assumed to be about a 90% win for Obama,                  
deep red                  Obama 10% margin or greater 83
medium red              Obama, 5-9.9% margin   67
pale red                   Obama, margin under 5% 37
white                        too close to call (margin 1% or less) 45
pale blue                  Republican  under 5% 18
medium blue             Republican  5-9.9% margin 3
deep blue                 Republican over 10%  




44% approval is roughly the break-even  point (50/50) for an incumbent's win.  I add 6% for approval between 40% and 46%, 5% at 46%, 4% between 47% and 50%, 3% for 51%, 2% for 52% or 53%, 1% for 54% and nothing above 55% or below 40% for an estimate of the vote.

 This model applies only to incumbents, who have plenty of advantages but not enough to rescue an unqualified failure.



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« Reply #6920 on: December 17, 2010, 09:44:00 am »


Rasmussen Obama (National)

Approve 44%, -3.

Disapprove 55%, +2.

"Strongly Approve" is at 24%, u.  "Strongly Disapprove" is at 43%, +2.

Really interesting.
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« Reply #6921 on: December 17, 2010, 02:19:25 pm »


Rasmussen Obama (National)

Approve 44%, -3.

Disapprove 55%, +2.

"Strongly Approve" is at 24%, u.  "Strongly Disapprove" is at 43%, +2.

Really interesting.

The "likely voter" screen that may have been relevant to November 2010 refers to a very different electorate than that which will be present in November 2012. Some of the voters of 2012 are now only 16 years old.
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« Reply #6922 on: December 18, 2010, 09:38:54 am »



Rasmussen Obama (National)

Approve 44%, u.

Disapprove 55%, u.

"Strongly Approve" is at 25%, +1.  "Strongly Disapprove" is at 42%, -1.

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« Reply #6923 on: December 18, 2010, 09:44:13 am »


Rasmussen Obama (National)

Approve 44%, -3.

Disapprove 55%, +2.

"Strongly Approve" is at 24%, u.  "Strongly Disapprove" is at 43%, +2.

Really interesting.

The "likely voter" screen that may have been relevant to November 2010 refers to a very different electorate than that which will be present in November 2012. Some of the voters of 2012 are now only 16 years old.

Actually, the only strong change, one which did start about a week after the election, was the Strongly Disapproved numbers dropped into the high 30's low 40's.  The pattern with the Strongly Approved numbers is not as strong.
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« Reply #6924 on: December 19, 2010, 09:35:49 am »




Rasmussen Obama (National)

Approve 46%, +2.

Disapprove 53%, -2.

"Strongly Approve" is at 24%, -1.  "Strongly Disapprove" is at 42%, -1.


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