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« Reply #6725 on: November 11, 2010, 12:44:29 AM »

I'll be honest...Nevada and Colorado seem to be trending left.

I'm not certain Reid doesn't also beat Lowden and Tark or Bennett doesn't also beat Norton.

It looks like the West in general is moving to the left while the Midwest is moving heavily to the right.

The Northeast and South are what they are but there are some bright spots in both areas for the GOP and Dems (south carolina in the south and new hampshire in the north).



Seems like this state is trending left, and for the worst IMO. It'll be a messed up state in a few decades just watch, similar like CA and the leftcoast, runned to hell. It won't matter cause I'll find another place to move.

What I'd say the midwest and the rustbelts are trending right.
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« Reply #6726 on: November 11, 2010, 12:45:32 AM »

I'll be honest...Nevada and Colorado seem to be trending left.



Definately.  Those were states that Obama would have carried in 2008 even if he had lost the popular vote to McCain(which looked possible for a while in September).
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« Reply #6727 on: November 11, 2010, 04:10:14 AM »

Anybody going to make an updated map for 2012?

This is the new map with current approval ratings:



No recent polling data for grey states.
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« Reply #6728 on: November 11, 2010, 04:56:14 AM »

I'll be honest...Nevada and Colorado seem to be trending left.

I'm not certain Reid doesn't also beat Lowden and Tark or Bennett doesn't also beat Norton.

It looks like the West in general is moving to the left while the Midwest is moving heavily to the right.

The Northeast and South are what they are but there are some bright spots in both areas for the GOP and Dems (south carolina in the south and new hampshire in the north).



Seems like this state is trending left, and for the worst IMO. It'll be a messed up state in a few decades just watch, similar like CA and the leftcoast, runned to hell. It won't matter cause I'll find another place to move.

What I'd say the midwest and the rustbelts are trending right.

Right-wing, anti-tax policies are to blame for California's predicament.
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« Reply #6729 on: November 11, 2010, 05:51:29 AM »

He made it pretty clear that he's considering the mission accomplished and looking for the next piece of America to destroy. No point rubbing it in further.
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« Reply #6730 on: November 11, 2010, 06:33:48 AM »

I'll be honest...Nevada and Colorado seem to be trending left.

I'm not certain Reid doesn't also beat Lowden and Tark or Bennett doesn't also beat Norton.

It looks like the West in general is moving to the left while the Midwest is moving heavily to the right.

The Northeast and South are what they are but there are some bright spots in both areas for the GOP and Dems (south carolina in the south and new hampshire in the north).



Seems like this state is trending left, and for the worst IMO. It'll be a messed up state in a few decades just watch, similar like CA and the leftcoast, runned to hell. It won't matter cause I'll find another place to move.

What I'd say the midwest and the rustbelts are trending right.

Right-wing, anti-tax policies are to blame for California's predicament.

Good thing they voted out all those evil Conservative Republicans who've controlled the state government for the last 40-odd years.
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« Reply #6731 on: November 11, 2010, 07:04:19 AM »

Try repealing Proposition 13.
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« Reply #6732 on: November 11, 2010, 09:35:45 AM »




Rasmussen Obama (National)

Approve 44%, -1.

Disapprove 54%, u.

"Strongly Approve" is at 25%, -2.  "Strongly Disapprove" is at 45%, +1.

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« Reply #6733 on: November 11, 2010, 12:05:52 PM »

I'll be honest...Nevada and Colorado seem to be trending left.

I'm not certain Reid doesn't also beat Lowden and Tark or Bennett doesn't also beat Norton.

It looks like the West in general is moving to the left while the Midwest is moving heavily to the right.

The Northeast and South are what they are but there are some bright spots in both areas for the GOP and Dems (south carolina in the south and new hampshire in the north).



Seems like this state is trending left, and for the worst IMO. It'll be a messed up state in a few decades just watch, similar like CA and the leftcoast, runned to hell. It won't matter cause I'll find another place to move.

What I'd say the midwest and the rustbelts are trending right.

Right-wing, anti-tax policies are to blame for California's predicament.

Good thing they voted out all those evil Conservative Republicans who've controlled the state government for the last 40-odd years.

Prop 13 and the 2/3rds budget requirement have hurt California more than any politician in the last 40 years.
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« Reply #6734 on: November 11, 2010, 12:12:47 PM »

I'll be honest...Nevada and Colorado seem to be trending left.

I'm not certain Reid doesn't also beat Lowden and Tark or Bennett doesn't also beat Norton.

It looks like the West in general is moving to the left while the Midwest is moving heavily to the right.

The Northeast and South are what they are but there are some bright spots in both areas for the GOP and Dems (south carolina in the south and new hampshire in the north).



Seems like this state is trending left, and for the worst IMO. It'll be a messed up state in a few decades just watch, similar like CA and the leftcoast, runned to hell. It won't matter cause I'll find another place to move.

What I'd say the midwest and the rustbelts are trending right.

Right-wing, anti-tax policies are to blame for California's predicament.

Good thing they voted out all those evil Conservative Republicans who've controlled the state government for the last 40-odd years.

Prop 13 and the 2/3rds budget requirement have hurt California more than any politician in the last 40 years.

And the voters want it.
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« Reply #6735 on: November 11, 2010, 06:12:13 PM »

PRESIDENT FLORIDA (PPP)
Generic Republican (R) 54%
Barack Obama (D-inc) 40%

PRESIDENT MAINE (PPP)
Generic Republican (R) 50%
Barack Obama (D-inc) 44%

PRESIDENT MINNESOTA (PPP)
Generic Republican (R) 47%
Barack Obama (D-inc) 45%

PRESIDENT TEXAS (PPP)
Generic Republican (R) 59%
Barack Obama (D-inc) 35%

PRESIDENT WEST VIRGINIA (PPP)
Generic Republican (R) 56%
Barack Obama (D-inc) 34%

PRESIDENT WISCONSIN (PPP)
Generic Republican (R) 51%
Barack Obama (D-inc) 42%

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« Reply #6736 on: November 11, 2010, 06:12:55 PM »

Tander Branson can you make a new map please?
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« Reply #6737 on: November 11, 2010, 06:25:55 PM »

Tander Branson can you make a new map please?

There are no new Obama job approval ratings to come out since his last map.  The PPP #s you quote aren't approval ratings.  They're head to head matchups, part of a PPP polling release which is discussed here:

https://uselectionatlas.org/FORUM/index.php?topic=127849.0

This thread is for Obama job approval ratings, not general election matchups.
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« Reply #6738 on: November 11, 2010, 06:50:58 PM »

Obama losing ME... come on.
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« Reply #6739 on: November 11, 2010, 07:08:02 PM »


Yep, Obama's finished.
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« Reply #6740 on: November 11, 2010, 07:18:53 PM »

why not??
hes in big trouble in NH why not behind in ME??
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« Reply #6741 on: November 11, 2010, 07:41:26 PM »


Against "generic Republican"? Thankfully you lot will probably put up someone that makes 'generic Republican' look like Ted Kennedy.

why not??
hes in big trouble in NH why not behind in ME??

ME and NH, while having some similarities are not that alike politically, at the Presidential level ME has been roughly 7-8% more Democratic than NH.

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« Reply #6742 on: November 11, 2010, 07:45:48 PM »

why not??
hes in big trouble in NH why not behind in ME??

Because Maine hasn't voted Republican since 1988. This means Obama can't possibly lose Maine in 2012.

Claiming Maine would vote Republican in 2012 is as ridiculous as someone in 2006 claiming that Indiana and North Carolina would vote Democrat in 2008.
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« Reply #6743 on: November 11, 2010, 07:58:57 PM »

why not??
hes in big trouble in NH why not behind in ME??

Because Maine hasn't voted Republican since 1988. This means Obama can't possibly lose Maine in 2012.

Claiming Maine would vote Republican in 2012 is as ridiculous as someone in 2006 claiming that Indiana and North Carolina would vote Democrat in 2008.

Or claiming that Reagan or Clinton were 'finished' in 1982 or 1994, as many did.

Keep in mind that I think 2008 was an electoral freak of nature - it was a perfect storm against the Republicans, and all rules were off. 
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« Reply #6744 on: November 11, 2010, 08:22:55 PM »

I'll be honest...Nevada and Colorado seem to be trending left.

I'm not certain Reid doesn't also beat Lowden and Tark or Bennett doesn't also beat Norton.

It looks like the West in general is moving to the left while the Midwest is moving heavily to the right.

The Northeast and South are what they are but there are some bright spots in both areas for the GOP and Dems (south carolina in the south and new hampshire in the north).



Seems like this state is trending left, and for the worst IMO. It'll be a messed up state in a few decades just watch, similar like CA and the leftcoast, runned to hell. It won't matter cause I'll find another place to move.

What I'd say the midwest and the rustbelts are trending right.

Right-wing, anti-tax policies are to blame for California's predicament.

Good thing they voted out all those evil Conservative Republicans who've controlled the state government for the last 40-odd years.

Prop 13 and the 2/3rds budget requirement have hurt California more than any politician in the last 40 years.

And the voters want it.

Yes, but that doesn't change the facts. Also getting rid of Prop 13 immediately in this kind of housing market would be bad policy. But it needs to be done eventually, and most definitely for businesses.
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« Reply #6745 on: November 11, 2010, 08:36:57 PM »

I'll be honest...Nevada and Colorado seem to be trending left.

I'm not certain Reid doesn't also beat Lowden and Tark or Bennett doesn't also beat Norton.

It looks like the West in general is moving to the left while the Midwest is moving heavily to the right.

The Northeast and South are what they are but there are some bright spots in both areas for the GOP and Dems (south carolina in the south and new hampshire in the north).



Seems like this state is trending left, and for the worst IMO. It'll be a messed up state in a few decades just watch, similar like CA and the leftcoast, runned to hell. It won't matter cause I'll find another place to move.

What I'd say the midwest and the rustbelts are trending right.

Right-wing, anti-tax policies are to blame for California's predicament.

Good thing they voted out all those evil Conservative Republicans who've controlled the state government for the last 40-odd years.

Prop 13 and the 2/3rds budget requirement have hurt California more than any politician in the last 40 years.

And the voters want it.

Yes, but that doesn't change the facts. Also getting rid of Prop 13 immediately in this kind of housing market would be bad policy. But it needs to be done eventually, and most definitely for businesses.

And, in a democracy, that is the only fact with which you have to be concerned.  If the electorate feels that repealing it is a better alternative, they will do so.
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« Reply #6746 on: November 12, 2010, 12:01:37 AM »

I'll be honest...Nevada and Colorado seem to be trending left.

I'm not certain Reid doesn't also beat Lowden and Tark or Bennett doesn't also beat Norton.

It looks like the West in general is moving to the left while the Midwest is moving heavily to the right.

The Northeast and South are what they are but there are some bright spots in both areas for the GOP and Dems (south carolina in the south and new hampshire in the north).



Seems like this state is trending left, and for the worst IMO. It'll be a messed up state in a few decades just watch, similar like CA and the leftcoast, runned to hell. It won't matter cause I'll find another place to move.

What I'd say the midwest and the rustbelts are trending right.

Right-wing, anti-tax policies are to blame for California's predicament.

Good thing they voted out all those evil Conservative Republicans who've controlled the state government for the last 40-odd years.

Prop 13 and the 2/3rds budget requirement have hurt California more than any politician in the last 40 years.

And the voters want it.

Yes, but that doesn't change the facts. Also getting rid of Prop 13 immediately in this kind of housing market would be bad policy. But it needs to be done eventually, and most definitely for businesses.

And, in a democracy, that is the only fact with which you have to be concerned.  If the electorate feels that repealing it is a better alternative, they will do so.

Yes, if I were the governor, I would be quite cognizant of that reality. But I am not a politician, thus I can say that Californian voters hold an irrational view on Prop 13 which is hurting the state. And that is just fact, regardless of whether or not the voters or you like it.
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« Reply #6747 on: November 12, 2010, 09:36:10 AM »



Rasmussen Obama (National)

Approve 44%, u.

Disapprove 54%, u.

"Strongly Approve" is at 24%, -1.  "Strongly Disapprove" is at 44%, -1.

Strongly Approve is now at the lowest point since 9/5/10.
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« Reply #6748 on: November 12, 2010, 11:36:57 AM »
« Edited: November 12, 2010, 11:42:30 AM by Skill and Chance »

I'll be honest...Nevada and Colorado seem to be trending left.

I'm not certain Reid doesn't also beat Lowden and Tark or Bennett doesn't also beat Norton.

It looks like the West in general is moving to the left while the Midwest is moving heavily to the right.

The Northeast and South are what they are but there are some bright spots in both areas for the GOP and Dems (south carolina in the south and new hampshire in the north).



Seems like this state is trending left, and for the worst IMO. It'll be a messed up state in a few decades just watch, similar like CA and the leftcoast, runned to hell. It won't matter cause I'll find another place to move.

What I'd say the midwest and the rustbelts are trending right.

I think the new party coalitions are shaping up to be NE + W (including the inland SW)  for the Dems and the South + the middle of the country for the GOP.  It's unclear where VA, PA, and FL fit into this, but I would imagine VA ends up leaning left by 2012, PA moves hard to the right, and FL starts leaning left with increasing Hispanic population and increasing salience of environmental issues (this is probably the GOP high water mark in FL, with anger at Obamacare dominating the elderly vote).  I expect this divide to be cemented whenever climate change legislation resurfaces, which could be as early as 2013 if Obama gets re-elected.  There will be a lot of midwestern Dems defying their party on this and also a lot of western GOPers who have little choice but to go along with it given the force of environmental issues in that region.
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« Reply #6749 on: November 12, 2010, 12:24:30 PM »



Rasmussen Obama (National)

Approve 44%, u.

Disapprove 54%, u.

"Strongly Approve" is at 24%, -1.  "Strongly Disapprove" is at 44%, -1.

Strongly Approve is now at the lowest point since 9/5/10.


Lack of strong feeling because there isn't another national election for 2 years.
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