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« Reply #2375 on: September 11, 2009, 03:42:25 PM »


I just see too many political strengths -- superb orator, good political strategist, ability to appeal to voters that the other Party takes for granted, shrewd use of media...
Hitler had many of those qualities too, but he was still  unpopular. That stuff might help him in his first election campaign, but people will be voting on how he did as a President, not how well of a speaker he is.

Hitler was very popular in Germany.
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« Reply #2376 on: September 11, 2009, 04:09:27 PM »

Rasmussen says Obama approval is 59% in Connecticut.
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« Reply #2377 on: September 11, 2009, 04:15:30 PM »

This really is the official "baby says goo goo gaa gaa" thread.
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« Reply #2378 on: September 11, 2009, 05:40:23 PM »

Subtle, and in one state of little area -- less area than greater Los Angeles.



(Connecticut cut down one category for Obama).
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« Reply #2379 on: September 12, 2009, 12:00:05 AM »

Is it really 2 months now that we had an OH (!) poll ?

PS: pbrower2a, plz colour IN and NE-02 in orange, because the polls are really old and IN was part of an Evan Bayh-sponsored poll.
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« Reply #2380 on: September 12, 2009, 12:29:16 AM »
« Edited: September 12, 2009, 04:40:46 PM by pbrower2a »

Is it really 2 months now that we had an OH (!) poll ?

PS: pbrower2a, plz colour IN and NE-02 in orange, because the polls are really old and IN was part of an Evan Bayh-sponsored poll.

Have patience. More polls will be out soon. I can't predict which ones, let alone which way they will go. Connecticut appeared tonight. Many agencies will have good cause to show new polls.



For the state of California you will see the number "79" where you expect to see electoral votes. A code for months will be "7"+ X, with X representing the numerical value of the month from January to September or "80" for October, "81" for November, or "82" for December as the opportunities arise.

I am going to give asterisks for the states smallest in territory instead of a code for the month -- states that will all go to the GOP nominee in 2012 only in an Obama loss.   

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« Reply #2381 on: September 12, 2009, 05:31:54 PM »

Well, here's the "kryptonite" of the Obama Administration being rendered almost innocuous. This Rasmussen poll suggests that Americans are beginning to recognize some merits in major health-care reforms not directed by the insurance cartel and Big Pharma:


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« Reply #2382 on: September 12, 2009, 05:51:00 PM »

Um, he is still under 50% on the question, that's not good.
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« Reply #2383 on: September 12, 2009, 06:04:45 PM »

Obama will probably end up getting his public option anyway.
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« Reply #2384 on: September 12, 2009, 09:15:32 PM »

Obama will probably end up getting his public option anyway.

And even then it would only be an insurance provider of the 'last resort' - that is an option for those who have no other alternative. That's the sense I got from the President's address to Congress
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« Reply #2385 on: September 12, 2009, 10:03:31 PM »

Um, he is still under 50% on the question, that's not good.

... on his weak spot. He has left responsibility for the legislation to Congress.  Congress did badly. Surely Obama will be judged on other things as well -- like the economy in general.
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« Reply #2386 on: September 12, 2009, 10:32:56 PM »

Um, he is still under 50% on the question, that's not good.

... on his weak spot. He has left responsibility for the legislation to Congress.  Congress did badly. Surely Obama will be judged on other things as well -- like the economy in general.

Congress is far more important than Obama. 
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« Reply #2387 on: September 13, 2009, 12:35:05 AM »

Wow, a few days after Obama gives a speech on a health care reform (of some sort), support for health care reform goes up.

I can't tell you how shocked I am about that.
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« Reply #2388 on: September 13, 2009, 01:33:44 AM »

Wow, a few days after Obama gives a speech on a health care reform (of some sort), support for health care reform goes up.

I can't tell you how shocked I am about that.

Be patient.
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« Reply #2389 on: September 13, 2009, 02:27:41 AM »

"Beginning to"?  Like this was based on some sort of substantial upgrade in America's understanding, that will go out exponentially?  haha, if only!
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« Reply #2390 on: September 13, 2009, 04:41:24 AM »

Um, he is still under 50% on the question, that's not good.

... on his weak spot. He has left responsibility for the legislation to Congress.  Congress did badly. Surely Obama will be judged on other things as well -- like the economy in general.

Congress is far more important than Obama. 

The President should be in charge of his agenda. It's his job to propose and that of Congress to dispose. Many commentators feel that in allowing Congress to do the proposing explains the president's slippage in approval among Independents
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« Reply #2391 on: September 13, 2009, 04:53:25 AM »

Is it really 2 months now that we had an OH (!) poll ?

PS: pbrower2a, plz colour IN and NE-02 in orange, because the polls are really old and IN was part of an Evan Bayh-sponsored poll.

Have patience. More polls will be out soon. I can't predict which ones, let alone which way they will go. Connecticut appeared tonight. Many agencies will have good cause to show new polls.



For the state of California you will see the number "79" where you expect to see electoral votes. A code for months will be "7"+ X, with X representing the numerical value of the month from January to September or "80" for October, "81" for November, or "82" for December as the opportunities arise.

I am going to give asterisks for the states smallest in territory instead of a code for the month -- states that will all go to the GOP nominee in 2012 only in an Obama loss.   

Cool, but I would just drop the "7" code, and just have the month by itself, leaving out all electoral vote #s.  For states with no month #, just leave them blank.  The 2008 electoral votes aren't going to be used in the 2012 election anyway.
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« Reply #2392 on: September 13, 2009, 08:29:51 AM »

Rasmussen at 51-48 today.

Support for Health Reform at 48-48.
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« Reply #2393 on: September 13, 2009, 10:38:30 AM »

Hey Tender

Corzine is behind 8 points this morning and his numbers are still upside down.  Go look at Monmouth polling.
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« Reply #2394 on: September 13, 2009, 11:17:55 AM »

Obama will probably end up getting his public option anyway.

And even then it would only be an insurance provider of the 'last resort' - that is an option for those who have no other alternative. That's the sense I got from the President's address to Congress

There would be lots of hardship cases -- people with pre-existing conditions, people over 50 with low incomes... Such are the people that the health insurance industry doesn't want as customers or only at at terms that price them into hunger or homelessness.  It could be an expansion of Medicare to such people.

One must say this of the civil service by which Medicare is run; it doesn't pay as lavishly those at the top of the scale as does private enterprise, and private enterprise pays people well to treat others badly.

Would you treat people badly if the pay weren't so great? At the preposterous extreme, a Mafia hit isn't cheap -- even if i comes from sociopathic persons so predisposed.
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« Reply #2395 on: September 13, 2009, 01:54:57 PM »

Is it really 2 months now that we had an OH (!) poll ?



Yes, it really is two months since we had an Ohio poll.

Maybe letters will work better for the "territorially-challenged" states. Until I sort them out or get new polls I will continue to use asterisks for them.

A is for January, B is for February, C is for March... H is for August, I is for September, J will be for October... and Z for unpolled. Then:



For the state of California you will see the number "79" where you expect to see electoral votes. A code for months will be "7"+ X, with X representing the numerical value of the month from January to September or "80" for October, "81" for November, or "82" for December as the opportunities arise.

I am going to give asterisks for the states smallest in territory instead of a code for the month -- states that will all go to the GOP nominee in 2012 only in an Obama loss.   

Cool, but I would just drop the "7" code, and just have the month by itself, leaving out all electoral vote #s.  For states with no month #, just leave them blank.  The 2008 electoral votes aren't going to be used in the 2012 election anyway.

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« Reply #2396 on: September 14, 2009, 01:36:45 PM »

Arkansas(KOS)

Favorable 41%
Unfavorable 55%

http://www.dailykos.com/statepoll/2009/9/10/AR/371
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« Reply #2397 on: September 14, 2009, 01:41:16 PM »
« Edited: September 14, 2009, 01:44:08 PM by Re-elect Obama »

Today's trackers:

Rass - 52/48 (Pass health care/Kill Health Care 51/46)
Rass approval index - -3
Gallup - 53/40

Others:

USA Today/Gallup - 54/43
ABC/Washington Post - 54/43
Anzalone-Liszt (D-AUFC) - 56/41
On Message (R-RNC) - 55/43 (eugh, commie poll!)

Averages:

Pollster (normal) - 52.9/44.3
Pollster (high sensitivity) - 53.6/43.2
Pollster (low sensitivity) - 52.4/44.4
RCP - 52.6/44.6 (Partisan polls not included)
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« Reply #2398 on: September 14, 2009, 02:50:58 PM »


Update of slight value:



Arkansas went about 58-38 for McCain in 2008. This poll portends well for improvements elsewhere.



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« Reply #2399 on: September 14, 2009, 03:02:23 PM »

Again, you are missing the difference between favorability and approval.
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