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tmthforu94
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« Reply #50 on: September 20, 2009, 12:28:19 PM »


The New Jersey poll relates to a gubernatorial race in 2010.  NH is a 50-50 tie; a lesser tie (let us say 49-49) would be white.

I'll ignore the fact that you posted that the governor race is in 2010...
So basically, from what I understand from how you determine this with the `09 Governor race states, if Obama's negative is higher than positive, it doesn't count because it refers to the 2009 election. BUT, if Obama has a positive rating, the poll is consistant with 2008.

Then why are you including ANY VA polls? Those are from a 2009 electorate. You are brain dead.

Because they are consistent with 2008 and not with an incumbent trying to save a failing governorship.
Are you seriously out of your mind? You are saying the New Jersey poll shouldn't count because they have a bad Governor. That is extremely ignorant. A lot of states have bad Democratic governors, so lets ignore those states too, since Obama will probably have bad approvals there.
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« Reply #51 on: September 20, 2009, 03:45:14 PM »

Hahaha, so you include the VA poll when it's positive but dismiss the NJ poll when it's negative. You sir are not just a moron, but a HACK.

For the third time, why are you advocating for the inclusion of a poll of likely 2009 voters?

Is the Virginia poll likely 2009 voters, too?  If not, why shouldn't it be inclusion?

I just want consistency. You either include both VA and NJ polls, or neither. You can't include the VA simply because it's positive and exclude the NJ because it's negative.

Pot calling the kettle black, hack. You are the blue avatar pbrower2
How is Rowan a hack? Because he is conservative and wants a good map on here?
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« Reply #52 on: September 23, 2009, 05:08:52 PM »

Omg, stupid conservatives! It doesn't matter how bad Obama's approvals are. The Age Wave will still cause him to win.
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« Reply #53 on: September 25, 2009, 03:57:19 PM »

You don't make sense, pbrower. Obama's disapproval rating is higher than his approval rating in Ohio, yet you color it green because of rounding? There have been more Virginia polls in the past few weeks that have had Obama yellow, not green, yet you still leave Ohio green.
50% of Ohio residents do no support Obama. Only 48% do. I wouldn't even round if Obama had 59% in a state.
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« Reply #54 on: October 06, 2009, 11:46:53 AM »

Should the Democrats have to defend New Jersey, then it has lost.
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« Reply #55 on: October 07, 2009, 07:52:10 PM »

John McCain was southern? He was born in Panama, went to boarding school in Alexandria, and then settled in Arizona. How is he southern?

His family is from Mississippi.
I bet less than 5% of America knows that. It's a complete non-factor.
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« Reply #56 on: October 08, 2009, 08:06:21 PM »

power2, who is green and who is yellow on the map?
Green are states where Obama has a positive approval rating where yellow states are where he doesn't. White is a tie and grey is unpolled/old polling.
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« Reply #57 on: October 19, 2009, 11:49:06 AM »

Oh. My. Gosh.
Do you not understand that there is a difference between approval ratings and favorable ratings? For example, I favor Bayh, and I like him. But right now, I don't approve of the job he's doing.
If you were actually fair on polling, you would dismiss these polls. But of course, you won't.
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« Reply #58 on: October 19, 2009, 02:42:53 PM »

Why I disagree with rounding up:
Your map makes it appear that at least 60% of Illinois residents approve of Obama, when less than 60% does. It is deceiving.
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« Reply #59 on: October 21, 2009, 08:18:24 AM »

Favorable are not approvals!
Everyone, please disregard Phacker's map on Michigan. It is false.
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« Reply #60 on: October 26, 2009, 07:27:06 PM »

Get used to it. Sometimes I think he is a robot, created by the DNC, to try and get people to think Obama is unbeatable in 2012, in the hopes that many Republicans won't even vote.
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« Reply #61 on: October 26, 2009, 07:49:55 PM »

I would, but I'm too lazy. I have a map memorized in my head of what it should be. I'll go ahead and give my "prediction" though, if the election was today, with no toss-ups.

Generic Republican/Generic Republican vs. Barack Obama/Joe Biden

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« Reply #62 on: October 26, 2009, 08:14:15 PM »
« Edited: October 26, 2009, 08:50:44 PM by Senator Tmthforu94 »

I would, but I'm too lazy. I have a map memorized in my head of what it should be. I'll go ahead and give my "prediction" though, if the election was today, with no toss-ups.

Generic Republican/Generic Republican vs. Barack Obama/Joe Biden



What makes you think Colorado goes Republican but not traditionally Republican Ohio?
Approval ratings. Colorado is a more libertarian state, so probably isn't a big fan of Obama's policies. Many though are still giving Obama a chance there, since they voted for him heavily in 2008. Even in a lean Obama election, I think Colorado could go Republican.
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« Reply #63 on: October 26, 2009, 08:50:30 PM »

Ohio is a libertarian state now? Christ almighty.
Sorry, I meant Colorado.
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« Reply #64 on: October 26, 2009, 08:57:24 PM »

I would, but I'm too lazy. I have a map memorized in my head of what it should be. I'll go ahead and give my "prediction" though, if the election was today, with no toss-ups.

Generic Republican/Generic Republican vs. Barack Obama/Joe Biden



I don't know whether you refer to a percentage or a margin, so a legend would be welcome.
The darker the color, the more confident I am with that prediction. 60% is the max.
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« Reply #65 on: November 03, 2009, 10:11:59 PM »

According to RCP averages, Barack Obama's approval rating is at it's lowest point today ever...

http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/other/president_obama_job_approval-1044.html
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« Reply #66 on: November 14, 2009, 08:25:49 PM »

lol

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« Reply #67 on: November 15, 2009, 10:22:36 AM »

Mason Dixon (South Carolina)

50% Approve
44% Disapprove

The statewide survey of 500 South Carolina registered voters was conducted Nov. 8-12, 2009. The margin of error is +/- 4.5 percent at a 96 percent level of confidence.

http://www.pollster.com/blogs/poll_masondixon_south_carolina.php



Fake!
I think that was established quite a while ago. You would know that if you actually read the posts after that.
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« Reply #68 on: November 19, 2009, 05:52:59 PM »

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But the decisions that have been made about the trial have been unpopular.
You can spout all that crap you want, but most people don't know that, or don't care. This is an approval ratings thread, and it has obviously sunken Obama's approval ratings.
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« Reply #69 on: December 18, 2009, 11:14:04 PM »

Michigan could prove to be very interesting in 2012. Honestly, if Republicans really want to win you, it might just be better for the Democrats to keep the Governor's mansion, so the Republican nominee can fully blame Democrats for Michigan's problems. It will still be successful even with a Republican as Governor, just not as much.
I'll go ahead and move Michigan from "Slight Obama" to "Toss-up".
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« Reply #70 on: December 18, 2009, 11:24:14 PM »

Also it's a Registered Voters poll, not a likely voters poll. Democrats have a huge registration advantage in NC, about 15 points if I'm not mistaken.

It's easy to figure that North Carolina is a very right-wing state because of its long-time troglodyte Senator Jesse Helms. The 2008 elections belie such an outdated image. Helms has been off the scene for seven years.

The registration edge suggests that Independents in North Carolina have voted heavily R in recent years -- even in 2008, and will do so in 2010 and 2012. Contrast the situation in South Dakota; practically every Independent would have to vote for a Democratic candidate for any Democrat to win in the state.   
 
Although that might not apply to North Carolina, conservative Democrats used to support Carter in 1980 and  Clinton in 1992 and 1996. (North Carolina has lots of relocated former residents of the Rust Belt). Of course should the typical white voters for Bill Clinton break for Obama in 2012, only political junkies will be watching to see whether Obama wins California, Hawaii, Oregon, and Washington.     
Out of curiousity...
What ran through your mind a few moments ago that prompted you to quote a message you posted an hour ago, in this very thread, and repost it?
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« Reply #71 on: December 22, 2009, 07:09:13 PM »

I'm giving pbrower the benefit of the doubt, but he might have forgot to change it on the map, or changed the wrong item unintentionally.

Again, I'm relatively new here, so let's give him a little bit, and see if he changes it in response. 
We've given him almost a year. Trust me, my friend, he is a Democrat hack, who is convinved Obama will easily win re-electio because of the "Age Wave".
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« Reply #72 on: December 23, 2009, 06:49:03 PM »


As for the Age Wave -- it's more limited than you think.

What? Pbrower, you are the only person crazy about the Age Wave. I think it's a load of crap, as do most people with a working brain.
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« Reply #73 on: December 24, 2009, 06:08:18 PM »

<40% with Disapproval Higher: 90% Red
40-44% with Disapproval Higher: 60% Red
45-49% with Disapproval Higher: 30% Red
50% or <50% with Approval Higher or Equal: Yellow
51-55%: 30% Green
56-60%: 60% Green
>60%: 90% Dark Green

Just throwing it out there. Don't worry about my feelings. Haha.
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tmthforu94
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« Reply #74 on: January 14, 2010, 07:13:22 PM »

Again, why is no one polling Indiana?  Idaho, Oklahoma, and Utah have more freakin` polls than Indiana, and McCain won by a lot in those states. Indiana was the most interesting state in the election.
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