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Topic: The Official Obama Approval Ratings Thread (Read 1059673 times)
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benconstine
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Re: The Official Obama Approval Ratings Thread
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Reply #3675 on:
January 26, 2010, 04:57:36 PM »
Quote from: pbrower2a on January 26, 2010, 04:40:08 PM
if 33 hours can be an agony on election night with a critical state in the balance, and 33 days going into the election can be a seeming eternity, then what is 33 months?
Totally irrelevant.
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J. J.
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Posts: 32,914
Re: The Official Obama Approval Ratings Thread
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Reply #3676 on:
January 26, 2010, 05:12:54 PM »
On Rasmussen, Obama's positive and negative numbers have not moved out of a 5 point range since the first week of December.
He's been at 46.5% +/- 2.5 points. It is remarkably stable.
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pbrower2a
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Re: The Official Obama Approval Ratings Thread
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Reply #3677 on:
January 26, 2010, 05:38:16 PM »
Quote from: J. J. on January 26, 2010, 05:12:54 PM
On Rasmussen, Obama's positive and negative numbers have not moved out of a 5 point range since the first week of December.
He's been at 46.5% +/- 2.5 points. It is remarkably stable.
46.5% approval is enough to win re-election.
Does anyone notice that American involvement in Iraq has been shrinking? It is increasing in Afghanistan, which is to be expected.
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J. J.
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Re: The Official Obama Approval Ratings Thread
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Reply #3678 on:
January 26, 2010, 05:47:27 PM »
Quote from: pbrower2a on January 26, 2010, 05:38:16 PM
46.5% approval is enough to win re-election.
Does anyone notice that American involvement in Iraq has been shrinking? It is increasing in Afghanistan, which is to be expected.
I'm not exactly ready to write Obama off. Iraq was a 2004 issue and will shrink or disappear by 2012, unless something really goes bad. The problems is Iran and possibly Yemen.
Iraq could come back if Iran attempts to intervene.
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J. J.
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Re: The Official Obama Approval Ratings Thread
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Reply #3679 on:
January 26, 2010, 07:21:54 PM »
One think that should be noted is Obama's negative numbers are tending to higher than for other presidents as the same point.
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pbrower2a
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Re: The Official Obama Approval Ratings Thread
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Reply #3680 on:
January 27, 2010, 01:06:29 AM »
Quote from: J. J. on January 26, 2010, 07:21:54 PM
One think that should be noted is Obama's negative numbers are tending to higher than for other presidents as the same point.
A negative vote from someone who thinks the President the reincarnation of Josef Stalin counts just as much as someone who simply thinks him a little weaker than the opponent.
In 2012 it likely comes down to the GOTV drives.
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Umengus
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Re: The Official Obama Approval Ratings Thread
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Reply #3681 on:
January 27, 2010, 08:47:17 AM »
Quote from: pbrower2a on January 26, 2010, 05:38:16 PM
Quote from: J. J. on January 26, 2010, 05:12:54 PM
On Rasmussen, Obama's positive and negative numbers have not moved out of a 5 point range since the first week of December.
He's been at 46.5% +/- 2.5 points. It is remarkably stable.
46.5% approval is enough to win re-election.
Does anyone notice that American involvement in Iraq has been shrinking? It is increasing in Afghanistan, which is to be expected.
it's not enough, if the republican candidate is good.
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Rowan
RowanBrandon
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Re: The Official Obama Approval Ratings Thread
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Reply #3682 on:
January 27, 2010, 10:09:03 AM »
Florida and Delaware updated
30%-39%-Dark Dark Red
40%-44%- Dark Red
45-49%- Red
Under 50% approval but approval higher than disapproval- Yellow
50%-54%- Light Green
55%-59%- Green
60%+- Dark Green
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J. J.
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Re: The Official Obama Approval Ratings Thread
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Reply #3683 on:
January 27, 2010, 10:49:43 AM »
Quote from: pbrower2a on January 27, 2010, 01:06:29 AM
Quote from: J. J. on January 26, 2010, 07:21:54 PM
One think that should be noted is Obama's negative numbers are tending to higher than for other presidents as the same point.
A negative vote from someone who thinks the President the reincarnation of Josef Stalin counts just as much as someone who simply thinks him a little weaker than the opponent.
In 2012 it likely comes down to the GOTV drives.
No, there is something more. Look at Obama's Strongly Approve and Approve numbers on Rasmussen. Over the last month, they been about 20 points apart. Strongly Disapprove and Disapprove have been around 12 points apart. His current supporters tend to be weaker in their support, and his detractors tend to be stronger.
http://www.rasmussenreports.com/public_content/politics/obama_administration/obama_approval_index_history
And, you can look at it historically, on Gallup.
Reagan had the lowest the approval number of any elected postwar president at this point in his presidency, 49%. He had a disapproval rate of 40%. Obama has a 50% approval at the same time, and a 45% disapproval. Even when Reagan had approval numbers around 47%, his disapproval numbers were still about five points lower than his approval numbers.
http://www.usatoday.com/news/washington/presidential-approval-tracker.htm
I'm saying Obama is tending to be more polarizing; the people that don't like him
really
don't like him. The people like him, really don't like him all that much.
Now, Obama can win if even those don't feel really strongly supportive of him vote for him, but if things go badly, he may be very likely to lose those weakly supportive of him.
BTW: I'm not in the group that strongly disapproves as of yet.
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Tender Branson
Mark Warner 08
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Re: The Official Obama Approval Ratings Thread
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Reply #3684 on:
January 27, 2010, 01:55:57 PM »
Pennsylvania (F & M)
38% Excellent/Good
61% Fair/Poor
http://edisk.fandm.edu/FLI/keystone/pdf/keyjan10_1.pdf
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You kip if you want to...
change08
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Re: The Official Obama Approval Ratings Thread
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Reply #3685 on:
January 27, 2010, 02:05:28 PM »
Quote from: Tender Branson on January 27, 2010, 01:55:57 PM
Pennsylvania (F & M)
38% Excellent/Good
61% Fair/Poor
http://edisk.fandm.edu/FLI/keystone/pdf/keyjan10_1.pdf
lol POLLFAIL!
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ConservativeIllini
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Re: The Official Obama Approval Ratings Thread
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Reply #3686 on:
January 27, 2010, 02:07:04 PM »
Quote from: Tender Branson on January 27, 2010, 01:55:57 PM
Pennsylvania (F & M)
38% Excellent/Good
61% Fair/Poor
http://edisk.fandm.edu/FLI/keystone/pdf/keyjan10_1.pdf
This definitely deserves one of pbrower's "S" marks. Or just ignore it.
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Tender Branson
Mark Warner 08
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Re: The Official Obama Approval Ratings Thread
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Reply #3687 on:
January 27, 2010, 02:11:01 PM »
Quote from: ConservativeIllini on January 27, 2010, 02:07:04 PM
Quote from: Tender Branson on January 27, 2010, 01:55:57 PM
Pennsylvania (F & M)
38% Excellent/Good
61% Fair/Poor
http://edisk.fandm.edu/FLI/keystone/pdf/keyjan10_1.pdf
This definitely deserves one of pbrower's "S" marks. Or just ignore it.
I´m not so sure, because many people who say "fair" in this poll might actually vote "approve" in a "approve/disapprove" poll.
Excellent/Good numbers always tend to be lower than Approve/Disapprove numbers (Rasmussen showed 46% of PAians approve of Obama just recently).
Anyway RB and PB: Excellent/Good polls shouldn't be added to the map.
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Rowan
RowanBrandon
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Re: The Official Obama Approval Ratings Thread
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Reply #3688 on:
January 27, 2010, 02:16:07 PM »
I've never used E/G/F/P in my maps.
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J. J.
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Posts: 32,914
Re: The Official Obama Approval Ratings Thread
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Reply #3689 on:
January 27, 2010, 02:40:11 PM »
Quote from: change08 on January 27, 2010, 02:05:28 PM
Quote from: Tender Branson on January 27, 2010, 01:55:57 PM
Pennsylvania (F & M)
38% Excellent/Good
61% Fair/Poor
http://edisk.fandm.edu/FLI/keystone/pdf/keyjan10_1.pdf
lol POLLFAIL!
F & M is one of the top polls for PA. I'm not happy with the categories, however.
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pbrower2a
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Posts: 24,273
Re: The Official Obama Approval Ratings Thread
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Reply #3690 on:
January 27, 2010, 02:55:07 PM »
«
Edited:
January 27, 2010, 08:25:38 PM
by
pbrower2a »
Quote from: ConservativeIllini on January 27, 2010, 02:07:04 PM
Quote from: Tender Branson on January 27, 2010, 01:55:57 PM
Pennsylvania (F & M)
38% Excellent/Good
61% Fair/Poor
http://edisk.fandm.edu/FLI/keystone/pdf/keyjan10_1.pdf
This definitely deserves one of pbrower's "S" marks. Or just ignore it.
As an EGFP result it can be rejected as such, but the strange write-up (unusually enthusiastic toward Republican candidates) brings to question its genuineness. I have no idea what "the most likely voters" means. There will be outliers, and there will be partisan polls (indeed, I accepted a partisan poll by a Republican organization in January because the state in question rarely gets polled).
Indeed it gets harsher treatment than my "S" -- complete rejection.
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ConservativeIllini
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Re: The Official Obama Approval Ratings Thread
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Reply #3691 on:
January 28, 2010, 09:34:28 AM »
Obama at 46% approve, 54% disapprove in Wisconsin among 2010 likely voters.
http://www.rasmussenreports.com/public_content/politics/elections2/election_2010/election_2010_senate_elections/wisconsin/toplines/toplines_wisconsin_senate_january_26_2010
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Zarn
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Re: The Official Obama Approval Ratings Thread
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Reply #3692 on:
January 28, 2010, 09:51:38 AM »
It looks like a small bump is over. Some of the states that were seeming to come back to Obama's column are dropping again.
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Rowan
RowanBrandon
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Re: The Official Obama Approval Ratings Thread
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Reply #3693 on:
January 28, 2010, 11:22:26 AM »
Wisconsin updated
30%-39%-Dark Dark Red
40%-44%- Dark Red
45-49%- Red
Under 50% approval but approval higher than disapproval- Yellow
50%-54%- Light Green
55%-59%- Green
60%+- Dark Green
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pbrower2a
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Posts: 24,273
Re: The Official Obama Approval Ratings Thread
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Reply #3694 on:
January 28, 2010, 01:52:39 PM »
«
Edited:
January 28, 2010, 01:59:22 PM
by
pbrower2a »
Great day for the American Right:
The last time that Wisconsin was competitive for the GOP, Kerry was the nominee.
What does the Hard Right have to offer, anyway?
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ConservativeIllini
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Re: The Official Obama Approval Ratings Thread
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Reply #3695 on:
January 28, 2010, 02:23:23 PM »
I wouldn't worry about it pbrower, Wisconsin won't go Red in 2012 anyway unless Obama continues as a train wreck, which is unlikely. Some good legislation is bound to pass at some point, or the economy is bound to turn around. My thoughts anyway...
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Tender Branson
Mark Warner 08
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Re: The Official Obama Approval Ratings Thread
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Reply #3696 on:
January 28, 2010, 02:54:42 PM »
Iowa (Rasmussen)
44% Approve
54% Disapprove
This statewide telephone survey of 500 Likely Voters in Iowa was conducted by Rasmussen Reports January 26, 2010. The margin of sampling error for the survey is +/- 4.5 percentage points with a 95% level of confidence.
http://www.rasmussenreports.com/public_content/politics/elections2/election_2010/election_2010_senate_elections/iowa/toplines/toplines_2010_election_iowa_senate_january_26_2010
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Eraserhead
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Re: The Official Obama Approval Ratings Thread
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Reply #3697 on:
January 28, 2010, 03:46:07 PM »
I think he'll probably get a small SOTU bump. It won't last long though.
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J. J.
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Re: The Official Obama Approval Ratings Thread
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Reply #3698 on:
January 28, 2010, 04:03:16 PM »
Quote from: For Your Haiti on January 28, 2010, 03:46:07 PM
I think he'll probably get a small SOTU bump. It won't last long though.
Somebody posted an average and said that there wouldn't be even a short term bump. I wouldn't read too much into a "no bump," if that happens.
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Rowan
RowanBrandon
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Re: The Official Obama Approval Ratings Thread
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Reply #3699 on:
January 28, 2010, 04:08:04 PM »
Iowa Updated
30%-39%-Dark Dark Red
40%-44%- Dark Red
45-49%- Red
Under 50% approval but approval higher than disapproval- Yellow
50%-54%- Light Green
55%-59%- Green
60%+- Dark Green
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