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« Reply #3100 on: December 04, 2009, 09:52:05 AM »

South Carolina(Rasmussen)

Approve 45%
Disapprove 54%

http://www.rasmussenreports.com/public_content/politics/general_state_surveys/south_carolina/49_in_south_carolina_oppose_impeachment_of_sanford
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« Reply #3101 on: December 04, 2009, 10:26:45 AM »


That seems kind of high.
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« Reply #3102 on: December 04, 2009, 10:40:44 AM »
« Edited: December 04, 2009, 10:51:17 AM by pbrower2a »


It's about how South Carolina voted in 2008. It's high in contrast to some recent (and suspect) SUSA polls in Kentucky, Missouri, and Virginia; it also gives me even stronger cause to believe that the SUSA polls in several states are suspect. Rasmussen tends to lean R, but it is respectable.



F - June  G - July  H - August  I - September  J - October  K - November   L - December  

* small state, date not known but reasonable  Z - no recent reliable poll
S - most recent poll suspicious

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Sanford should be impeached, not so much for adultery (a commonplace activity) but for blatant dereliction of duty and  deceit.
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« Reply #3103 on: December 04, 2009, 12:48:13 PM »


The black population creates some type of floor there that wouldn't be there in other states. White Democrats are willing to disapprove of Obama, but not Black Democrats.
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« Reply #3104 on: December 04, 2009, 02:27:59 PM »


The black population creates some type of floor there that wouldn't be there in other states. White Democrats are willing to disapprove of Obama, but not Black Democrats.

Such applies to Alabama and Mississippi, but not quite so blatantly to South Carolina -- let alone Missouri or Virginia, which also have large African-American populations. 

In 2005 the African-American population of South Carolina was about 30% (29.5%). Figure that about 15% of the population is white people who approve of Obama's performance as President.

South Carolina was not as polarized in its voting as was Alabama, where disapproval of Obama is around 60% in the latest SUSA poll (I believe that one, but few of the others).

Approval and disapproval for the President can be extremely volatile. We are likely to see some more polls that corroborate or contradict this one.  Let's remember -- poor whites and poor blacks have much the same economic problems, and if any group of people has potential as pick-ups for Obama in 2012, it is poor whites. He can't do much good for poor blacks if he doesn't also do good for poor whites, too. If the "scariness" factor goes away and Obama achieves his promises, then the 2012 election should be an Obama landslide.

States that should have voting behavior most similar to South Carolina would be Georgia and Tennessee.
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« Reply #3105 on: December 04, 2009, 02:30:45 PM »

Approval and disapproval for the President can be extremely volatile. We are likely to see some more polls that corroborate or contradict this one.  Let's remember -- poor whites and poor blacks have much the same economic problems, and if any group of people has potential as pick-ups for Obama in 2012, it is poor whites. He can't do much good for poor blacks if he doesn't also do good for poor whites, too. If the "scariness" factor goes away and Obama achieves his promises, then the 2012 election should be an Obama landslide.
So how is making things worse for both poor blacks and poor whites going to affect Obama's re-election performance?
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« Reply #3106 on: December 04, 2009, 02:44:41 PM »

Pbrower, Obama needs to worry more about groups that he is losing, rather than picking up new groups.
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« Reply #3107 on: December 04, 2009, 02:57:10 PM »

All the polls are wrong. Obama has a 90% + approval rating in every state. He will win in a landslide.

Such applies to Alabama and Mississippi, but not quite so blatantly to South Carolina -- let alone Missouri or Virginia, which also have large African-American populations.

In 2005 the African-American population of South Carolina was about 30% (29.5%). Figure that about 15% of the population is white people who approve of Obama's performance as President.
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« Reply #3108 on: December 04, 2009, 03:00:18 PM »

CNN/opinion research (crap poll)

approve: 48 % (-7 compared to mid november poll)
disapprove: 50 % (+8)

No information on the party id.
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« Reply #3109 on: December 04, 2009, 05:23:53 PM »

Approval and disapproval for the President can be extremely volatile. We are likely to see some more polls that corroborate or contradict this one.  Let's remember -- poor whites and poor blacks have much the same economic problems, and if any group of people has potential as pick-ups for Obama in 2012, it is poor whites. He can't do much good for poor blacks if he doesn't also do good for poor whites, too. If the "scariness" factor goes away and Obama achieves his promises, then the 2012 election should be an Obama landslide.

So how is making things worse for both poor blacks and poor whites going to affect Obama's re-election performance?

How is he making things worse? He promised to start undoing the damage of the previous Administration and he is making good on his promises. Unemployment is high, but such reflects damage done before he became President.   
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« Reply #3110 on: December 04, 2009, 05:25:45 PM »

CNN/opinion research (crap poll)

approve: 48 % (-7 compared to mid november poll)
disapprove: 50 % (+8)

No information on the party id.

Squinting Well, he definately is in quite a bad state then.
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« Reply #3111 on: December 04, 2009, 07:44:37 PM »

Approval and disapproval for the President can be extremely volatile. We are likely to see some more polls that corroborate or contradict this one.  Let's remember -- poor whites and poor blacks have much the same economic problems, and if any group of people has potential as pick-ups for Obama in 2012, it is poor whites. He can't do much good for poor blacks if he doesn't also do good for poor whites, too. If the "scariness" factor goes away and Obama achieves his promises, then the 2012 election should be an Obama landslide.

So how is making things worse for both poor blacks and poor whites going to affect Obama's re-election performance?

How is he making things worse? He promised to start undoing the damage of the previous Administration and he is making good on his promises. Unemployment is high, but such reflects damage done before he became President.   

Trying taking the blinders off, first.
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« Reply #3112 on: December 04, 2009, 08:21:32 PM »

Approval and disapproval for the President can be extremely volatile. We are likely to see some more polls that corroborate or contradict this one.  Let's remember -- poor whites and poor blacks have much the same economic problems, and if any group of people has potential as pick-ups for Obama in 2012, it is poor whites. He can't do much good for poor blacks if he doesn't also do good for poor whites, too. If the "scariness" factor goes away and Obama achieves his promises, then the 2012 election should be an Obama landslide.

So how is making things worse for both poor blacks and poor whites going to affect Obama's re-election performance?

How is he making things worse? He promised to start undoing the damage of the previous Administration and he is making good on his promises. Unemployment is high, but such reflects damage done before he became President.   

Trying taking the blinders off, first.

I can't wait to see Pbrower's reaction if a republican wins in 2012.
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« Reply #3113 on: December 04, 2009, 08:24:06 PM »

Approval and disapproval for the President can be extremely volatile. We are likely to see some more polls that corroborate or contradict this one.  Let's remember -- poor whites and poor blacks have much the same economic problems, and if any group of people has potential as pick-ups for Obama in 2012, it is poor whites. He can't do much good for poor blacks if he doesn't also do good for poor whites, too. If the "scariness" factor goes away and Obama achieves his promises, then the 2012 election should be an Obama landslide.

So how is making things worse for both poor blacks and poor whites going to affect Obama's re-election performance?

How is he making things worse? He promised to start undoing the damage of the previous Administration and he is making good on his promises. Unemployment is high, but such reflects damage done before he became President.   
Oh yes, "undoing the damage of the previous Administration" by expanding the policies of the previous administration.
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« Reply #3114 on: December 04, 2009, 08:25:33 PM »

Approval and disapproval for the President can be extremely volatile. We are likely to see some more polls that corroborate or contradict this one.  Let's remember -- poor whites and poor blacks have much the same economic problems, and if any group of people has potential as pick-ups for Obama in 2012, it is poor whites. He can't do much good for poor blacks if he doesn't also do good for poor whites, too. If the "scariness" factor goes away and Obama achieves his promises, then the 2012 election should be an Obama landslide.

So how is making things worse for both poor blacks and poor whites going to affect Obama's re-election performance?

How is he making things worse? He promised to start undoing the damage of the previous Administration and he is making good on his promises. Unemployment is high, but such reflects damage done before he became President.   
Oh yes, "undoing the damage of the previous Administration" by expanding the policies of the previous administration.

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« Reply #3115 on: December 04, 2009, 08:27:11 PM »

Approval and disapproval for the President can be extremely volatile. We are likely to see some more polls that corroborate or contradict this one.  Let's remember -- poor whites and poor blacks have much the same economic problems, and if any group of people has potential as pick-ups for Obama in 2012, it is poor whites. He can't do much good for poor blacks if he doesn't also do good for poor whites, too. If the "scariness" factor goes away and Obama achieves his promises, then the 2012 election should be an Obama landslide.

So how is making things worse for both poor blacks and poor whites going to affect Obama's re-election performance?

How is he making things worse? He promised to start undoing the damage of the previous Administration and he is making good on his promises. Unemployment is high, but such reflects damage done before he became President.   
Oh yes, "undoing the damage of the previous Administration" by expanding the policies of the previous administration.



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« Reply #3116 on: December 04, 2009, 08:56:47 PM »

^lol
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« Reply #3117 on: December 04, 2009, 10:14:18 PM »

Approval and disapproval for the President can be extremely volatile. We are likely to see some more polls that corroborate or contradict this one.  Let's remember -- poor whites and poor blacks have much the same economic problems, and if any group of people has potential as pick-ups for Obama in 2012, it is poor whites. He can't do much good for poor blacks if he doesn't also do good for poor whites, too. If the "scariness" factor goes away and Obama achieves his promises, then the 2012 election should be an Obama landslide.

So how is making things worse for both poor blacks and poor whites going to affect Obama's re-election performance?

How is he making things worse? He promised to start undoing the damage of the previous Administration and he is making good on his promises. Unemployment is high, but such reflects damage done before he became President.   
Oh yes, "undoing the damage of the previous Administration" by expanding the policies of the previous administration.

Aside from "let the profiteers profit more", what was the Bush policy on health care?

The bailouts began with Dubya as President. TARP funds are being paid back.

As for the general recovery: the first post-Crash investments are in securities sold at distress prices. Only after those securities recover some semblance of value does Big Business start investing in plant and equipment and start hiring anew. 

Any recovery will have a firm basis in capital formation -- not in a speculative bubble.
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« Reply #3118 on: December 04, 2009, 10:21:01 PM »

Aside from "let the profiteers profit more", what was the Bush policy on health care?
Expanding the government's role in it, of course, such as his prescription drug entitlement program.

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LMAO. Obama's whole economic programme is just about trying to keep the bubble inflated until the next election. Not one damn thing has been changed about our economic structure.
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« Reply #3119 on: December 05, 2009, 12:00:16 AM »

Pbrower, Obama needs to worry more about groups that he is losing, rather than picking up new groups.

One possible interpretation is that he must pick up new voters to make up for those that he loses.
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« Reply #3120 on: December 05, 2009, 01:38:49 PM »

Obama's below 50 in the RCP average with only a +4 advantage, and he is only +1 on Pollster.com's average.
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« Reply #3121 on: December 05, 2009, 05:12:38 PM »

Hell, I expected CNN to be higher, and Gallup to be lower. And this is after the annoucement that unemployment had dropped. It could have to do with the decision on Afghanistan however. Then again it could be a fluke.
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« Reply #3122 on: December 06, 2009, 06:29:39 PM »

Gallup 49/44
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« Reply #3123 on: December 07, 2009, 01:05:41 PM »

Gallup:

Approve - 47%
Disapprove - 46%
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« Reply #3124 on: December 07, 2009, 01:39:54 PM »

Rasmussen:

49% Approve
50% Disapprove
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