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Topic: The Official Obama Approval Ratings Thread (Read 1055734 times)
Franzl
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Re: The Official Obama Approval Ratings Thread
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Reply #2500 on:
September 18, 2009, 04:41:31 PM »
Well for one thing, New Jersey is not a tossup.
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pbrower2a
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Re: The Official Obama Approval Ratings Thread
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Reply #2501 on:
September 18, 2009, 04:45:33 PM »
Again, the approval rating involves "likely voters" in an odd-year election. Until someone can convince me that odd-year elections have the same level of participation as midterm elections, let alone Presidential elections, I am not going to accept the New Jersey poll except as an expression of how a Governor's campaign is going in the autumn of 2009. Of course the poll is relevant to the gubernatorial race.
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Alexander Hamilton
Concerned Citizen
Posts: 9,167
Political Matrix
E: 0.58, S: -5.13
Re: The Official Obama Approval Ratings Thread
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Reply #2502 on:
September 18, 2009, 04:46:11 PM »
Quote from: Senator Tmthforu94 on September 18, 2009, 04:36:56 PM
Quote from: No Reply on September 18, 2009, 04:24:42 PM
Quote from: Senator Tmthforu94 on September 17, 2009, 03:29:51 PM
If the election was today, I would predict this as the map...
.... lol
Explain. I basically went off polling and 2008 results.
New Mexico would go blue before Iowa or Wisconsin.
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Badger
badger
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Posts: 30,134
Re: The Official Obama Approval Ratings Thread
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Reply #2503 on:
September 18, 2009, 04:46:20 PM »
Quote from: Senator Franzl on September 18, 2009, 04:41:31 PM
Well for one thing, New Jersey is not a tossup.
Neither is Wisconsin or Iowa.
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xavier110
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Posts: 1,437
Re: The Official Obama Approval Ratings Thread
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Reply #2504 on:
September 18, 2009, 04:49:12 PM »
Quote from: Senator RowanBrandon on September 18, 2009, 07:15:12 AM
Maine(KOS)
Favorable 68%
Unfavorable 23%
http://www.dailykos.com/statepoll/2009/9/16/ME/376
LOL Kos,
he doesn't he try to hide his bias
(or just awfulness).
In that same poll, voters are against same-sex marriage
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Nhoj
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Re: The Official Obama Approval Ratings Thread
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Reply #2505 on:
September 18, 2009, 04:49:54 PM »
Quote from: Senator Franzl on September 18, 2009, 04:41:31 PM
Well for one thing, New Jersey is not a tossup.
Yeah and Wisconsin isnt lean R. i could excuse this if tmth were merely mocking pb for his equally stupid maps but if hes serious...
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officepark
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Posts: 9,031
Re: The Official Obama Approval Ratings Thread
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Reply #2506 on:
September 18, 2009, 04:52:00 PM »
Quote from: Senator Franzl on September 18, 2009, 04:41:31 PM
Well for one thing, New Jersey is not a tossup.
Of course it's not. There isn't even a presidential election now; this is about
approval ratings
.
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Franzl
Atlas Star
Posts: 22,271
Re: The Official Obama Approval Ratings Thread
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Reply #2507 on:
September 18, 2009, 04:54:35 PM »
Quote from: True Conservative on September 18, 2009, 04:52:00 PM
Quote from: Senator Franzl on September 18, 2009, 04:41:31 PM
Well for one thing, New Jersey is not a tossup.
Of course it's not. There isn't even a presidential election now; this is about
approval ratings
.
My comment specifically refered to tmth's prediction "if the election were held today".
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Lief 🐋
Lief
Atlas Legend
Posts: 42,027
Re: The Official Obama Approval Ratings Thread
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Reply #2508 on:
September 18, 2009, 05:04:16 PM »
If the election were held today, Obama would obviously win, as a
majority
of Americans approve of the job he's doing.
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The Daily Beagle
Angry_Weasel
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Re: The Official Obama Approval Ratings Thread
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Reply #2509 on:
September 18, 2009, 06:00:43 PM »
I can say, at the height of Obama's controversy, what the map will probably look like in a close election-
foru94 is probably right if Obama only gets about 48% of the vote.
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Zarn
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Posts: 3,820
Re: The Official Obama Approval Ratings Thread
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Reply #2510 on:
September 18, 2009, 06:27:10 PM »
Quote from: DariusNJ on September 18, 2009, 03:38:00 PM
I don't agree with prbrowers logic, but instead of getting mad about it, why not just make your own tracking map?
The Maine poll looks like an outlier, and so does the New Jersey one.
If Obama is at 50% nationwide, his approval will be positive in New Jersey. Obama isn't doing well among independents or Republicans, yet his favorables in Maine is 74% among independents and 35% among Republicans. Doesn't make sense.
Just exercise some common sense people, that's all I'm saying.
You are forgetting Corzine's impact and the fact that Obama is an open buddy of his.
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Eraserhead
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Posts: 43,768
Re: The Official Obama Approval Ratings Thread
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Reply #2511 on:
September 18, 2009, 08:29:27 PM »
Quote from: Chief Runs With Scissors on September 18, 2009, 06:00:43 PM
I can say, at the height of Obama's controversy, what the map will probably look like in a close election-
foru94 is probably right if Obama only gets about 48% of the vote.
Even if Obama only got 48% of the vote, New Jersey would not be a tossup.
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Eraserhead
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Re: The Official Obama Approval Ratings Thread
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Reply #2512 on:
September 18, 2009, 08:30:55 PM »
Quote from: TrueRepublicIran on September 18, 2009, 06:27:10 PM
Quote from: DariusNJ on September 18, 2009, 03:38:00 PM
I don't agree with prbrowers logic, but instead of getting mad about it, why not just make your own tracking map?
The Maine poll looks like an outlier, and so does the New Jersey one.
If Obama is at 50% nationwide, his approval will be positive in New Jersey. Obama isn't doing well among independents or Republicans, yet his favorables in Maine is 74% among independents and 35% among Republicans. Doesn't make sense.
Just exercise some common sense people, that's all I'm saying.
You are forgetting Corzine's impact and the fact that Obama is an open buddy of his.
I know right, I always see those two out bar-hopping together.
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The Daily Beagle
Angry_Weasel
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Posts: 26,139
Re: The Official Obama Approval Ratings Thread
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Reply #2513 on:
September 18, 2009, 08:34:43 PM »
Quote from: No Reply on September 18, 2009, 08:29:27 PM
Quote from: Chief Runs With Scissors on September 18, 2009, 06:00:43 PM
I can say, at the height of Obama's controversy, what the map will probably look like in a close election-
foru94 is probably right if Obama only gets about 48% of the vote.
Yes. Actually, I had no idea why I did that. I think even if Corzine can't get to 40% in the next election, Obama will still be able to get to at least 55% in 2012.
I know this because New Jersey probably just hates Corzine for being a total whore and just wants someone else. I think there will be a change of behavior
after just a small time under a far-right freak like Christie. Then again, Rhode Island has a rightie for governor...and there are some red, red states that have
pretty liberal governors. My state SORT OF comes to mind. At least there is Kansas.
Even if Obama only got 48% of the vote, New Jersey would not be a tossup.
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DariusNJ
Jr. Member
Posts: 414
Re: The Official Obama Approval Ratings Thread
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Reply #2514 on:
September 18, 2009, 10:38:31 PM »
Quote from: TrueRepublicIran on September 18, 2009, 06:27:10 PM
Quote from: DariusNJ on September 18, 2009, 03:38:00 PM
I don't agree with prbrowers logic, but instead of getting mad about it, why not just make your own tracking map?
The Maine poll looks like an outlier, and so does the New Jersey one.
If Obama is at 50% nationwide, his approval will be positive in New Jersey. Obama isn't doing well among independents or Republicans, yet his favorables in Maine is 74% among independents and 35% among Republicans. Doesn't make sense.
Just exercise some common sense people, that's all I'm saying.
You are forgetting Corzine's impact and the fact that Obama is an open buddy of his.
1)No they're not.
2)Just because a Democratic governor is unpopular in a state, it does not mean it will bring Obama's numbers down.
3) That logic works the other way too. Governor Mike Beebe of Arkansas has a really high approval rating, it hasn't helped Obama's approval in Arkansas. And in West Virginia, the two Democratic senators and the governor are all fairly popular I believe, while Obama isn't.
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Zarn
YaBB God
Posts: 3,820
Re: The Official Obama Approval Ratings Thread
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Reply #2515 on:
September 18, 2009, 10:45:48 PM »
They are buddies. Why are you denying it?
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DariusNJ
Jr. Member
Posts: 414
Re: The Official Obama Approval Ratings Thread
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Reply #2516 on:
September 19, 2009, 12:01:51 PM »
Quote from: TrueRepublicIran on September 18, 2009, 10:45:48 PM
They are buddies. Why are you denying it?
You're a Republican. Why are you denying it?
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Zarn
YaBB God
Posts: 3,820
Re: The Official Obama Approval Ratings Thread
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Reply #2517 on:
September 19, 2009, 12:40:48 PM »
I'm registered as a Republican...
Is there a problem?
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DariusNJ
Jr. Member
Posts: 414
Re: The Official Obama Approval Ratings Thread
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Reply #2518 on:
September 19, 2009, 01:21:54 PM »
Quote from: TrueRepublicIran on September 19, 2009, 12:40:48 PM
I'm registered as a Republican...
Is there a problem?
Not at all tough guy, but why don't you change your registration on the forum?
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Alcon
Atlas Superstar
Posts: 30,908
Re: The Official Obama Approval Ratings Thread
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Reply #2519 on:
September 19, 2009, 06:32:32 PM »
VOTER REGISTRATION-RELATED FIGHT!!!! VOTER REGISTRATION-RELATED FIGHT!!!!
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Badger
badger
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Posts: 30,134
Re: The Official Obama Approval Ratings Thread
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Reply #2520 on:
September 19, 2009, 08:26:12 PM »
Quote from: Alcon on September 19, 2009, 06:32:32 PM
VOTER REGISTRATION-RELATED FIGHT!!!! VOTER REGISTRATION-RELATED FIGHT!!!!
Damn, Alcon! You almost made me pee myself laughing.
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The Daily Beagle
Angry_Weasel
Atlas Star
Posts: 26,139
Re: The Official Obama Approval Ratings Thread
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Reply #2521 on:
September 19, 2009, 11:05:23 PM »
Well, it's a dispicable practice to claim to be an "independent", in an attempt to shift the center. However, its their perogative. What can we do about it? You look like a total dick for calling someone a partisan who claims that they are not a partisan. I do think it is reasonable to call someone out for claiming to be part of a particular party but oppose most its important policies.
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Zarn
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Posts: 3,820
Re: The Official Obama Approval Ratings Thread
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Reply #2522 on:
September 20, 2009, 12:09:37 AM »
Quote from: DariusNJ on September 19, 2009, 01:21:54 PM
Quote from: TrueRepublicIran on September 19, 2009, 12:40:48 PM
I'm registered as a Republican...
Is there a problem?
Not at all tough guy, but why don't you change your registration on the forum?
Why do you care? What does this have anything to do with Corzine and Obama being political buddies?
I'm registered to the Republican Party to keep loonies like Lonegan from being on the ballot.
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Eraserhead
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Posts: 43,768
Re: The Official Obama Approval Ratings Thread
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Reply #2523 on:
September 20, 2009, 12:34:34 AM »
Change your avatar. It would be for the best. Just ask Rowanbrandon how free he feels now.
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Tender Branson
Mark Warner 08
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Re: The Official Obama Approval Ratings Thread
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Reply #2524 on:
September 20, 2009, 02:30:21 AM »
Virginia (Washington Post):
53% Approve
47% Disapprove
Iowa (Des Moines Register):
53% Approve
41% Disapprove
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