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« Reply #10125 on: October 02, 2012, 05:44:15 pm »


What chart you reading? Cos I see Romney up 0.2%! Roll Eyes

Most of those are not tracking polls, but those are ones that show closing.

NBC's latest just made it Obama up by 3, with Romney gaining.
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« Reply #10126 on: October 02, 2012, 05:47:36 pm »

What does whether or not a poll is a tracking poll have to do with anything? A poll is a poll?

And +5 on the NBC poll to +3 isn't significant movement.
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« Reply #10127 on: October 02, 2012, 09:44:13 pm »

What does whether or not a poll is a tracking poll have to do with anything? A poll is a poll?

And +5 on the NBC poll to +3 isn't significant movement.

There is a difference because trending is clearer, and a two point drop is significant.
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« Reply #10128 on: October 02, 2012, 09:49:19 pm »

Must be closing a little because of the debates....
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« Reply #10129 on: October 03, 2012, 09:12:16 am »


Rasmussen Obama (National)

Approve 49%, u.

Disapprove 50%, -1.

"Strongly Approve" is at 29%, u.  "Strongly Disapprove" is at  41%, +1.

Head to head is at 49/47 Obama (+1).

 
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« Reply #10130 on: October 03, 2012, 01:23:47 pm »

Gallup

Approve 50% (+2)
Disapprove 44% (-1)

The American people had a bad dream about the 47% comment Monday night.
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« Reply #10131 on: October 03, 2012, 01:58:33 pm »

Did Gallup switch over to a Likely Voter model yet or what?
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« Reply #10132 on: October 03, 2012, 02:04:59 pm »

Did Gallup switch over to a Likely Voter model yet or what?

Nope.

They are still using that 7-day RV tracker and a 3-day ADULTS tracker for the Obama approval.
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« Reply #10133 on: October 03, 2012, 03:09:33 pm »

Gallup

Approve 50% (+2)
Disapprove 44% (-1)

The American people had a bad dream about the 47% comment Monday night.

And, at the same time:

Obama:  49, -1

Romney: 45, +1

Someplace in there is a really bad sample.
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« Reply #10134 on: October 04, 2012, 09:24:26 am »


Rasmussen Obama (National)

Approve 49%, u.

Disapprove 49%, -1.

"Strongly Approve" is at 30%, +1.  "Strongly Disapprove" is at  41%, u.

Head to head is at 49/47 Obama (u).

 
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« Reply #10135 on: October 04, 2012, 12:03:07 pm »

Gallup

Approval-54(+4)
Disapproval-42(-2)

Don't expect that to last after the debate.
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« Reply #10136 on: October 04, 2012, 12:06:39 pm »

Gallup

Approval-54(+4)
Disapproval-42(-2)

Don't expect that to last after the debate.

Those numbers are not in it.

Probably a bad sample.

The weekly numbers dropped to 48% at the same time.

Presidential numbers are:

49% Obama, 45% Romney (u).  Those numbers do not include the debate numbers.
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« Reply #10137 on: October 04, 2012, 12:23:53 pm »

54? When was the last time he was that high? 2009? It wont last.
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« Reply #10138 on: October 04, 2012, 12:53:50 pm »

Obama could have buried Romney last night.  What a disaster.
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« Reply #10139 on: October 04, 2012, 02:07:19 pm »

Yup. Obama could have won by 10% in the popular vote if he had finished off Romney last night. Instead we'll probably be seeing a slim Romney lead in the next few days.
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« Reply #10140 on: October 04, 2012, 03:03:41 pm »

Gallup's daily number average for September 23-30 was 50.14%.  Their weekly tracking for the same period is 48% (and a decline of 1 point).  There is obviously some bad numbers in their someplace.
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« Reply #10141 on: October 04, 2012, 05:20:31 pm »

One bit of good news is that the right direction/wrong track number on Rasmussen is 37/55.  37 is tied for the highest position in about 6 months.
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« Reply #10142 on: October 04, 2012, 06:04:59 pm »

I highly doubt just this debate will cause Romney to lead. But if this becomes a pattern, and the people think Obama has nothing new to offer them while Romney keeps playing to the middle, watch out.
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« Reply #10143 on: October 04, 2012, 07:17:41 pm »

One bit of good news is that the right direction/wrong track number on Rasmussen is 37/55.  37 is tied for the highest position in about 6 months.

Yeah that is some great news!
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« Reply #10144 on: October 04, 2012, 08:42:27 pm »

One bit of good news is that the right direction/wrong track number on Rasmussen is 37/55.  37 is tied for the highest position in about 6 months.

Yeah that is some great news!

Well, if you are being sarcastic, that is about as good as the news gets today.
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« Reply #10145 on: October 04, 2012, 09:17:45 pm »

I highly doubt just this debate will cause Romney to lead. But if this becomes a pattern, and the people think Obama has nothing new to offer them while Romney keeps playing to the middle, watch out.

The most effective thing Mittens said in my mind, with the voters who will decide the election, is that he worked for bipartisan consensus with Romneycare, and Obama didn't with Obamacare, and that approach can bear poison fruit. All major pieces of social legislation in the past have had important bipartisan support - all of them. And yes, Mittens is playing the middle hard now. It must be a relief for him that the primaries are over. That period was absolutely horrible.
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« Reply #10146 on: October 04, 2012, 09:19:53 pm »

One bit of good news is that the right direction/wrong track number on Rasmussen is 37/55.  37 is tied for the highest position in about 6 months.

Yeah that is some great news!

Well, if you are being sarcastic, that is about as good as the news gets today.

Actually, I'd say Obama being at 54% on Gallup is pretty good news for him.
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« Reply #10147 on: October 04, 2012, 09:25:32 pm »

I highly doubt just this debate will cause Romney to lead. But if this becomes a pattern, and the people think Obama has nothing new to offer them while Romney keeps playing to the middle, watch out.

The most effective thing Mittens said in my mind, with the voters who will decide the election, is that he worked for bipartisan consensus with Romneycare, and Obama didn't with Obamacare, and that approach can bear poison fruit. All major pieces of social legislation in the past have had important bipartisan support - all of them. And yes, Mittens is playing the middle hard now. It must be a relief for him that the primaries are over. That period was absolutely horrible.

Of course Obama's response should be that no Republican wanted to play ball with him, but he wasn't able to make that argument at all during the debate. He has an even better case with the debt debacle of a couple years back (when Nancy was not calling the shots), and he failed there as well. Truman won by running against an obstructionist congress, Obama must do the same.
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« Reply #10148 on: October 04, 2012, 09:27:40 pm »

I highly doubt just this debate will cause Romney to lead. But if this becomes a pattern, and the people think Obama has nothing new to offer them while Romney keeps playing to the middle, watch out.

The most effective thing Mittens said in my mind, with the voters who will decide the election, is that he worked for bipartisan consensus with Romneycare, and Obama didn't with Obamacare, and that approach can bear poison fruit. All major pieces of social legislation in the past have had important bipartisan support - all of them. And yes, Mittens is playing the middle hard now. It must be a relief for him that the primaries are over. That period was absolutely horrible.


I thought that entire discussion was awful... It's difficult to be bipartisan when the other side refuses to do anything other than what they want.

Kind of the same as in MA, Romney's point about working with democrats was silly, because he didn't have a choice. they could have overrun his veto, and this this was before the gop went into the psychiatric ward, and being seen as a 'concilliator' was going to be a plus. but in reality, he was bent over a barrell.

I'm startled he didn't attack congress, not even a little...
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« Reply #10149 on: October 04, 2012, 09:31:47 pm »

I highly doubt just this debate will cause Romney to lead. But if this becomes a pattern, and the people think Obama has nothing new to offer them while Romney keeps playing to the middle, watch out.

The most effective thing Mittens said in my mind, with the voters who will decide the election, is that he worked for bipartisan consensus with Romneycare, and Obama didn't with Obamacare, and that approach can bear poison fruit. All major pieces of social legislation in the past have had important bipartisan support - all of them. And yes, Mittens is playing the middle hard now. It must be a relief for him that the primaries are over. That period was absolutely horrible.

Of course Obama's response should be that no Republican wanted to play ball with him, but he wasn't able to make that argument at all during the debate. He has an even better case with the debt debacle of a couple years back (when Nancy was not calling the shots), and he failed there as well. Truman won by running against an obstructionist congress, Obama must do the same.

Well actually Obama didn't play much ball with the Pubs on Obamacare at all, walked out on Boehner because he could not even suck up using the chained CPI for SS payment adjustments, ignored Simpson Bowles, that had a bipartisan majority in support of something, and indeed does not talk much to anybody. Dems in Congress bitch all the time what a loner and unapproachable Obama is.  I suspect he holds most of the political class in contempt. That is my honest opinion.

Obama has his talents. Being a consensus builder, and finding the middle, is not one of them however. It is just not within him. Mittens should play this card hard from now until the election. His base will have to suck it up.
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