Mideast Constitutional Convention

[Queen Mum Inks.LWC]

60 hours is good, I guess.

[Purple State]

I bring the following for a vote:


Amendment 6a

Article II, Section 2, Clause 1 which currently reads: "In order to be nominated to the Superior Court, a person shall be nominated by the Governor or Speaker of the Assembly."
shall hereby be amended to read: "In order to be nominated to the Superior Court, a person shall be nominated by the Governor of the Mideast. In the event that 60 hours elapse from the time of a case being filed in the Mideast Superior Court without such action taken by the Governor, said responsibility shall fall exclusively to the Speaker of the Assembly."

Article II, Section 2 shall hereby include the following as Clause 3, with all other clauses numbered accordingly:

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The vote will last for 24 hours. Please indicate aye, nay, or abstain.


Aye

[Queen Mum Inks.LWC]

I was thinking of one other thing just now - what if people simply recall the judge because they disagree with how he ruled a case?

[afleitch]

I was thinking of one other thing just now - what if people simply recall the judge because they disagree with how he ruled a case?

That is a possibility. Therefore I have an issue with the second part of the amendment. After some thought on the issue of SCJ, we may have to revert to the current set-up if no other system can work well and without political intervention.

[Queen Mum Inks.LWC]

I was thinking of one other thing just now - what if people simply recall the judge because they disagree with how he ruled a case?

That is a possibility. Therefore I have an issue with the second part of the amendment. After some thought on the issue of SCJ, we may have to revert to the current set-up if no other system can work well and without political intervention.

I'll probably at least try to do that if the third constitution passes.  I think we'll get more input if I put the amendment on a monthly ballot.  So if people say keep it temporary, I'm fine with that, because at least we had more input.

[Purple State]

The recall would require a large movement in the region though. In order to have that kind of movement would likely require an actual abuse of the office.

Couldn't the same action currently be taken before a verdict is given? I just want to ensure that no rush jobs are done in which an abuse of power is allowed to serve as the law.

[Purple State]

Election for Presiding Officer:

[ ] Purple State
[ ] Write-in:

Please choose one


Is anyone going to vote on the amendment? There are about 9 hours remaining in the vote.

Amendment 6a

Aye

[Franzl]

Election for Presiding Officer:

[ 1] Purple State
[ ] Write-in:





Amendment 6a

Nay

[Queen Mum Inks.LWC]

Amendment 6a
AYE

[Queen Mum Inks.LWC]

Election for Presiding Officer:

[ X] Purple State
[ ] Write-in:

[Purple State]

I will be extending the vote on Amendment 6a for another 24 hours so that a quorum can be met.

We also still have just under 24 hours left in the election for presiding officer and need a quorum for that as well.

Let's go people. Almost there!

[afleitch]

Can't believe I missed this

Election for Presiding Officer:

[ 1] Purple State
[ ] Write-in:


Amendment 6a

Aye

[Hash]

• Purple State

6a

NAY

[HappyWarrior]

• Purple State

6a

NAY

[Queen Mum Inks.LWC]

Article I, Section 1's title need to remove the reference to Lt. Governor.

[Purple State]

Article I, Section 1's title need to remove the reference to Lt. Governor.

You do know what word flew to my mouth just there. I hope you know what you have caused.


Amendment [last amendment# + 1]

The title of Article I, Section 1, which reads "Section 1: The Governor and Lieutenant Governor"
shall hereby be renamed "Section 1: The Governor."

Please vote aye, nay, or abstain on the amendment. It shall be open for a period of 24 hours.

[Queen Mum Inks.LWC]

Amendment [last amendment# + 1]
AYE

Sorry - but I figured we should try to have a constitution that's as correct as possible.

[Hash]

aye

[Franzl]

aye

[Purple State]

Aye


Numbers:

Amendment 6a
Aye = 3
Nay = 3
Abstain = 0

Presiding Officer
Purple State = 6

Amendment [whatever]
Aye = 4

[HappyWarrior]

Aye

[Purple State]

Results:

I will assume the chair for presiding officer once again. Amendment [whatever] passes by unanimous consent. Amendment 6a ties and will therefore be further debated.


I bring the following Amendment forward for debate. Please explain your intent of vote and why, as well as any edits you propose.

Amendment 6a

Article II, Section 2, Clause 1 which currently reads: "In order to be nominated to the Superior Court, a person shall be nominated by the Governor or Speaker of the Assembly."
shall hereby be amended to read: "In order to be nominated to the Superior Court, a person shall be nominated by the Governor of the Mideast. In the event that 60 hours elapse from the time of a case being filed in the Mideast Superior Court without such action taken by the Governor, said responsibility shall fall exclusively to the Speaker of the Assembly."

Article II, Section 2 shall hereby include the following as Clause 3, with all other clauses numbered accordingly:

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[Queen Mum Inks.LWC]

If you can get this done in 9 hours, it can be put on the ballot for February.

EDIT: Actually, I normally open ballots at noon, but I'll push it off until 0001 on Friday if it means that we can get the 3C on the ballot; however, I legally cannot push off opening the voting booth any later than that.

[Franzl]

I can not support the recall thing with judges...as it just pretty much eliminates the independent judiciary as it would be subject to the public will. That's one thing that definitely doesn't need to be democratized.

Otherwise I have no problem with the amendment.

[Purple State]

I can not support the recall thing with judges...as it just pretty much eliminates the independent judiciary as it would be subject to the public will. That's one thing that definitely doesn't need to be democratized.

Otherwise I have no problem with the amendment.

If I up the recall of the justice to 2/3 vote, would that get your vote? There just needs to be a check on the justice if he will be chosen by an elected official.