President Forever results thread...

[RBH]

I should send info to Hobbes so I can see if he can defeat the power of a candidate who could win his home state.

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Bush v. Sharpton v. Nader:



Bush - 61,785,481 votes (49%)
Sharpton - 57,625,484 votes (46%)
Nader - 4,913,408 votes (3%)

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Nugent (R) v. Fonda (D)



Fonda - 366 EV, 69,820,388 votes (56%)
Nugent - 172 EV, 54,693,123 votes (43%)

[RBH]

Social Security all the way!

Ran an attack ad that "backfired" (but sank Santorum's momentum), ran a positive Social Security ad, followed by another negative ad against Santorum (which sank him even more), and a last minute positive ad.

[RBH]

And another beating:

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Nugent (R) v. Fonda (D)



Fonda - 366 EV, 69,820,388 votes (56%)
Nugent - 172 EV, 54,693,123 votes (43%)

BLUH!

It's on a scenario, and it was before I found the secret of President Forever, which involves attack ads

[RBH]

Playing as Wallace (including an election day "ad dump" where I run four ads in every state):



And Congress elected Humphrey

[RBH]

All hail your new Fourth party Overlords!



The three main candidates and their views.

James Cox (D-OH)

The Tariff - CL (Tariffs only for revenue generation)
Direct Democracy - CL (For primaries, Senate elections, referendums, initiative and recalls)
The League of Nations - L (The League must be created with full US Involvement)
Business Regulation - CL (The Federal government should charter business)
The Treaty of Versailles - CL (Versailles is a little too harsh on Germany)
Isolationism - CL (America should pay attention to foreign affairs)
Labor - CL (Labor Unions are a workers best protection against exploitation)
Agriculture - CL (We need better price controls)
Government expenditures - CL (Modest increase in expenditures, focus on effectiveness)
Cost of Living - C (Rising costs can be offset with growth)
Anti-Trust Laws - CL (Trusts and Monopolies should be broken-up)
Rebuilding Europe - CL (Helping Europe should be balanced with domestic concerns)
Wall Street - CL (We should be wary of the power of Wall Street)
Taxes - C (Taxes are fine as the are)
Russia - CL (We should return troops to Russia if others do)
Socialism - CL (Socialism has ideas which we can learn from)
The Wilson Legacy - L (A Great President)
Unemployment - C (Aid for a good number of depressed areas)

Warren Harding (R-OH)

Tariff - CR (Tariffs are for the protection of business and for revenue)
Direct Democracy - C (Elections are a state's issues)
The League of Nations - CR (If the League is created, the USA should not be involved)
Business Regulation - CR (We should be wary of business regulation)
The Treaty of Versailes - CR (Versailles is a little too lenient on Germany)
Isolationism - CR (America shouldn't care what happens elsewhere)
Labor Unions - CR (Unions are undermining our economy)
Agriculture - CR (Agriculture must adapt to modern business standards)
Government Expenditures - CR (Government expenditures need to be reduced)
Cost of Living - CR (Less government spending will reduce prices)
Anti-Trust Laws - CL (Trusts and Monopolies should be broken-up)
Rebuilding Europe - CR (They made the mess, let them clean it up)
Wall Street - CR (Strong Financial Markets are Vital and Should be Encouraged)
Taxes - CR (Taxes should be reduced)
Russia - CR (Europe is in a mess of it's own making)
Socialism - CR (Socialism is contrary to the American way)
The Wilson Legacy - CR (A Poor President)
Unemployment - R (No federal stimulus is necessary)

Robert Martin (F-SC)

Tariff - C (Tariffs should be used to protect labor interests and revenue)
Direct Democracy - R (The Democracy is fine as it is)
The League of Nations - R (The creation of the League should be fought at all costs)
Business Regulation - R (Business is not the concern of Government)
The Treaty of Versailes - C (It's not our problem)
Isolationism - R (America doesn't need the rest of the World)
Labor Unions - C (Labor demands must be balanced with business concerns)
Agriculture - L (We need massive subsidies to save farmers)
Government Expenditures - R (Dramatically reduce the size of the Federal Government)
Cost of Living - R (Rising costs are not a governmental concern)
Anti-Trust Laws - C (Business competitition should be regulated)
Rebuilding Europe - R (Leave them to it)
Wall Street - L (Wall Street is becoming too powerful)
Taxes - CR (Taxes should be reduced)
Russia - R (America should not become involved)
Socialism - R (Socialism is a threat to our Democracy)
The Wilson Legacy - L (A great President)
Unemployment - CR (Aid for a few depressed areas)

So. How did I do it.

#1 - Spending a lot of money

#2 - Running ads against Cox on the League of Nations

#3 - Running ads against Harding on his intregity.

Other Stuff:

Results from the former Confederate States:
Martin - 46.93% (8991872)
Cox - 34.01% (6516595)
Harding - 15.66% (3000525)
Debs - 3.40% (650855)

From the other 37 states
Harding - 39.88% (23577186)
Martin - 38.22% (22592019)
Cox - 15.44% (9129086)
Debs - 6.46% (3817302)

The five best states for Debs
California - 19.73% (2nd place, 1364234)
Arkansas - 16.69% (4th place, 131980)
Arizona - 10.40% (4th place, 59702)
Minnesota - 10.32% (3rd place, 155014)
Massachusetts - 9.5% (4th place, 216574)

The five worst states for Debs
West Virginia - 0.04% (292 votes)
South Carolina - 0.53% (5626 votes)
Texas - 0.87% (36811 votes)
Montana - 1.05% (3104 votes)
Virginia - 1.49% (25919 votes)

The five best and worst for Cox

Best: AL (52%), SC (43%), MS (41%), GA (40%), AR (40%)
Worst: WI (7%), ND (9%), MN (9%), MI (10%),  VT (11%)

The five best and worst for Harding

Best: ND (52%), MI (51%), IA (51%), CA (50%), MN (49%)
Worst: SC (0.72%), MS (7%), GA (13%), LA (14%), TX (14%)

The five best and worst for Martin

Best: WV (56%), SC (56%), TX (55%), UT (53%), VA (53%)
Worst: AR (18%), CA (19%), AL (22%), AZ (25%), DE (29%)

Martin won a majority in 10 states.

[RBH]

Simmed on "Top Dogs: 2008"



Jesse Ventura/Angus King - 62,040,460 votes (49.93%)/511 EV
Hillary Rodham Clinton/Wesley Clark - 33,976,083 votes (27.34%)/15 EV
Rudy Giuliani/Bill Frist - 28,248,117 votes (22.73%)/12 EV

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Simmed on "The Great Crash"



Cooper Chambers (Socialist) - 53761170 (37%), 237 EV
Herbert Hoover (Republican) - 37812591 (26%), 192 EV
Franklin Roosevelt (Democrat) - 50906941 (35%), 103 EV

Don't ask about the high vote numbers.

And the Congress elected FDR

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Won by Nixon:

Delaware - 36.2% Nixon, 35.7% Humphrey, 25% Clarke, 3% Wallace
Idaho - 37% Nixon, 32% Humphrey, 27% Clarke, 3% Wallace
Iowa - 33% Nixon, 30% Clarke, 23% Humphrey, 13% Wallace

Won by Humphrey:

Alaska - 41% Humphrey, 39% Nixon, 14% Clarke, 6% Wallace
Arizona - 41% Humphrey, 38% Nixon, 21% Clarke, 0% Wallace
California - 48% Humphrey, 39% Nixon, 13% Clarke, 0% Wallace
Colorado - 39% Humphrey, 32% Clarke, 28% Nixon, 1% Wallace
Connecticut - 38% Humphrey, 32% Clarke, 30% Nixon, 0% Wallace
District of Columbia - 50% Humphrey, 43% Clarke, 8% Nixon, 0% Wallace
Illinois - 39% Humphrey, 34% Nixon, 26% Clarke, 1% Wallace
New Mexico - 40% Humphrey, 38% Clarke, 22% Nixon, 0% Wallace

Won by Wallace:

Alabama - 49% Wallace, 26% Humphrey, 13% Clarke, 11% Nixon
Arkansas - 41% Wallace, 30% Clarke, 18% Humphrey, 11% Nixon
Florida - 32% Wallace, 27% Humphrey, 22% Clarke, 18% Nixon
Georgia - 38% Wallace, 28% Clarke, 25% Nixon, 8% Humphrey
Indiana - 32% Wallace, 25% Clarke, 24% Humphrey, 19% Nixon
Kentucky - 35% Wallace, 30% Clarke, 19% Nixon, 16% Humphrey
Louisiana - 50% Wallace, 31% Clarke, 13% Humphrey, 6% Nixon
Maryland - 34% Wallace, 30% Clarke, 19% Humphrey, 16% Nixon
Michigan - 29.47% Wallace, 29.03% Clarke, 22% Humphrey, 20% Nixon
Mississippi - 41% Wallace, 32% Clarke, 16% Nixon, 11% Humphrey
Montana - 28% Wallace, 27% Clarke, 25% Humphrey, 20% Nixon
North Carolina - 44% Wallace, 25% Clarke, 17% Humphrey, 14% Nixon
South Carolina - 42% Wallace, 27% Clarke, 16% Nixon, 15% Humphrey
Tennessee - 30.96% Wallace, 30.66% Clarke, 23% Nixon, 16% Humphrey

Won by Clarke:
Hawaii - 28% Clarke, 27% Nixon, 23% Humphrey, 22% Wallace
Kansas - 30.1% Clarke, 29.7% Nixon, 28% Humphrey, 12% Wallace
Maine - 33% Clarke, 31% Nixon, 21% Humphrey, 15% Wallace
Massachusetts - 41% Clarke, 40% Humphrey, 19% Nixon, 0% Wallace
Minnesota - 40% Clarke, 37% Humphrey, 23% Nixon, 1% Wallace
Missouri - 31% Clarke, 27% Wallace, 22% Nixon, 20% Humphrey
Nebraska - 44% Clarke, 29% Nixon, 17% Humphrey, 10% Wallace
Nevada - 36% Clarke, 33% Humphrey, 24% Nixon, 7% Wallace
NH - 43% Clarke, 36% Nixon, 20% Humphrey, 1% Wallace
NJ - 38% Clarke, 35% Humphrey, 25% Nixon, 2% Wallace
NY - 42% Clarke, 37% Humphrey, 21% Nixon
ND - 35% Clarke, 28% Nixon, 19% Wallace, 19% Humphrey
OH - 35% Clarke, 26% Wallace, 20% Nixon, 19% Humphrey
OK - 48% Clarke, 26% Humphrey, 26% Nixon, 0% Wallace
OR - 37% Clarke, 27% Nixon, 21% Humphrey, 15% Wallace
PA - 50% Clarke, 26% Humphrey, 22% Nixon, 2% Wallace
RI - 52% Clarke, 30% Humphrey, 16% Nixon, 1% Wallace
SD - 47% Clarke, 25% Nixon, 24% Nixon, 5% Wallace
TX - 35% Clarke, 26% Wallace, 20% Nixon, 19% Humphrey
UT - 40% Clarke, 22% Nixon, 20% Humphrey, 17% Wallace
VT - 56% Clarke, 27% Nixon, 17% Humphrey, 0% Wallace
VA - 31% Clarke, 26% Nixon, 23% Wallace, 20% Humphrey
WA - 48% Clarke, 24% Humphrey, 22% Nixon, 6% Wallace
WV - 34% Clarke, 30% Wallace, 19% Humphrey, 16% Nixon
WI - 45% Clarke, 30% Humphrey, 23% Nixon, 1% Wallace
WY - 48% Clarke, 23% Nixon, 20% Humphrey, 8% Wallace

Fiscal Conservative + Social Liberal + Anti War + Tons of Money = Victory with 32.6% of the vote!

[RBH]

It appears that I spoiled things for Richard Burr.



Another moral victory for the "have lots of money and run on abortion, affirmative action, and immigration" strategy.

[RBH]

Perhaps this was too easy

[RBH]

Hm.. maybe a bit out there.





Best County
Rossi: Benton County (46.33%)
Gregoire: Jefferson County (42.03%)
Gates: Walla Walla County (45.57%)

Worst County
Rossi: San Juan County (23.85%)
Gregoire: Franklin County (16.02%)
Gates: Asotin County (24.77%)

Closest Counties
Grays Harbor: Gates over Gregoire, 34.45-34.30, 48 vote plurality
Pacific: Gregoire over Gates, 35.30-35.14, 15 vote plurality
Douglas: Rossi over Gates, 39.53-39.32, 32 vote plurality
King: Gates over Gregoire, 37.06-36.75, 2393 vote plurality
Clark: Rossi over Gates, 34.08-33.65, 726 vote plurality

Gates only finished third in Asotin County.

I based my campaign on jobs, attacking Rossi on jobs, attacking Rossi on abortion, and port security.

With 3 weeks left, Gregoire was up 43-33 and I had 20%.

With 2 weeks left, I got to around 25% or so.

With a week left, I cracked 30%

With a few days left, I put it out of reach.

Bill on the issues

Abortion: L
Affirmative Action: C
Budget: C
Business Tax: C
Jobs: C
Tsunami: CL
WASL: CL
Asian Trade: CR
Crime: C
Same-Sex Marriage: CL
Boeing: C
Education: CL
Military Bases: C
Sales Tax: CR
Public Health Care: CR
Renewable Energy: C
State Divide: C
Port Security: CR

I think I intended to put Gates on the left on health care.

[RBH]

[lol, bill gates]

Let me guess, you gave Bill Gates $2 billion.

Nah, only $100M

[RBH]

The Bloc got screwed.

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Votes cast: 142,404,295
U.S. Population, 1920 Census: 105,273,049

Wow, a 135% percent turnout.

Looks like the GOTV operations really kicked ass in this election.

[RBH]

The electoral vote thing on here is slightly malapportioned.

[RBH]

Evil prevails using an anti-free speech, pro-state control of the media, and pro-government ownership of business campaign.



Compare the results

PF results on the left, 11/21 results on the right

Cherkasy: 59/41 Yu - 75/25 Yu
Chernihiv: 53/47 Yu - 69/31 Yu
Chernivtsi: 58/42 Yu - 77/23 Yu
Crimea: 89/11 Ya - 85/15 Ya
Dnipropetrovsk: 76/24 Ya - 68/32 Ya
Donetsk: 98/2 Ya - 98/2 Ya
Ivano Frankivska: 71/29 Yu - 95/5 Yu
Kharkiv: 79/21 Ya - 74/26 Ya
Kherson: 67/33 Ya - 55/45 Ya
Khmelnytskyy: 50.1/49.8 Ya (2,014 votes) - 74/26 Yu
Kirovohrad: 63/37 Ya - 50.3/49.7 Ya
Kyiv City: 53/47 Yu - 79/21 Yu
Kyiv Oblast: 53/47 Yu - 79/21 Yu
Luhansk: 96/4 Ya - 95/5 Ya
Lviv: 65/35 Yu - 93/7 Yu
Mykolayiv: 80/20 Ya - 73/27 Ya
Odessa: 78/22 Ya - 72/28 Ya
Poltava: 57/43 Ya - 64/36 Yu
Rivne: 54/46 Yu - 79/21 Yu
Sevastopol: 93/7 Ya - 92/8 Ya
Sumy: 51/49 Ya - 72/28 Yu
Ternopil: 66/34 Yu - 95/5 Yu
Vinnytsya: 53/47 Yu - 78/22 Yu
Volyn: 61/39 Yu - 88/12 Yu
Zakarpattya: 60/40 Ya - 58/42 Yu
Zaporiska: 79/21 Ya - 74/26 Ya
Zhytomyr: 57/43 Ya - 63/37 Yu
Tot: 65/35 Ya - 51/49 Ya

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Royal (D-MO): 68%
Coolidge (R-MA): 23%
LaFollette (P-WI): 9%

Yay Tariff, Unemployment and Agriculture!

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Truman/Harriman (D) - 50,524,886 votes (64.4975%)
Eisenhower/Nixon (R) - 27,811,347 votes (35.5025%)

Best states for Truman:
New York - 75/25
North Carolina - 75/25
Vermont - 75/25
Wisconsin - 74/26
New Mexico - 74/26

Worst states for Truman
Arizona - 50.37/49.63
Kansas - 54/46
Iowa - 55/45
Michigan - 55/45
West Virginia - 55/45

In this version of history, apparently Eisenhower turns out to be an inept campaigner.

Using "Ike vs Adlai - 1952" I grilled Eisenhower on Education and Unemployment. After softening up his northern support with criticism of his integration stand.

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I almost blew a 17 point lead.

The last poll before the election had me up 57-40

The final results..

Leon Sharpe (R) - 1,177,697 (51.51%)
Janet Napolitano (D) - 1,108,643 (48.49%)



Best County for Sharpe: Yavapai (78%)
Worst County for Sharpe: Apache (23%)

Granted, if the scenario wasn't so screwy that it put the election on a Sunday, then I could have seen it all coming.

And the EV-ish thing for Arizona gave the election to Napolitano due to Maricopa.

But yeah, that tops any other game, meltdown-wise.

[RBH]

I didn't quite top that 69/27 Rossi win a few pages back, but



Webb (R): 69%
Gregoire (D): 29%
Bennett (L): 2%

Best county for
Webb: Adams (80.9%)
Gregoire: Jefferson (37.5%)
Bennett: Skamania (4.4%)

Worst county for
Webb: Jefferson (60%)
Gregoire: Benton (17.4%)
Bennett: Thurston (0.2%)

It only took $15M to elect a guy who wants to ban all abortions with 69% of the vote

[RBH]

Who...is Webb, exactly?

I feel ashamed that I don't know this.

Webb is just a guy who I use for various political sim games. He's basically more conservative than Bush.

And I gave him the home county of Spokane County.