President Forever results thread...

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1992

George Bush/Pete Wilson (R)-501 Electoral Votes
   45,651,357   41.5%
Bill Clinton/Mario Cuomo (D)-31 Electoral Votes
   36,889,084   33.5%
Ross Perot/James Stockdale (I)-4 Electoral Votes
   27,556,423   25%

I played as Perot.

[Barnes]

1992

George Bush/Pete Wilson (R)-501 Electoral Votes
   45,651,357   41.5%
Bill Clinton/Mario Cuomo (D)-31 Electoral Votes
   36,889,084   33.5%
Ross Perot/James Stockdale (I)-4 Electoral Votes
   27,556,423   25%

I played as Perot.

How do you get 1992? My version doesnt have it.

If you have the President Forever 2008 + Primaries, you can go to "Scenarios" when you start the game, and pick another year.

[Barnes]

I played as Regan in the 1980 scenario today, and Jimmy Carter won EVERY state. Also I beat Anderson by only 5% for 2nd palace (he got like 22%).  Now do I run good campaigns or what!?

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2008

Mitt Romney/Rudy Giuliani-290 electoral votes, 62,266,617 53.1%
Hillary Clinton/Tim Kaine-248 electoral votes, 54,919,996 46.9%

I played as Romney. The closest state was Oregon, which Romney won: 50.2%-49.8% or 5,000 votes.

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2008

Mitt Romney/Rudy Giuliani-290 electoral votes, 62,266,617 53.1%
Hillary Clinton/Tim Kaine-248 electoral votes, 54,919,996 46.9%

I played as Romney

Illinois and California are so unrealistically winnable for Republicans in the 2008 scenario.

I know! I won Illinois 50.4 to 49.6, or by 45,510 votes. And California was a battleground state the entire election, but Clinton won it 53.3 to 46.7

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2004 - I played as Kerry/Bayh

Senator John Kerry (D-MA)/Senator Evan Bayh (D-IN) - 397 electoral votes and 63,124,289 (55.1%) popular votes
President George W. Bush (R-TX)/Vice President Dick Cheney (R-WY) - 141 electoral votes and 46,927,382 (41.0%) popular votes
Michael Badnarik (L-TX)/Lance Brown (L-CA) - 0 electoral votes and 2,610,493 (2.3%) popular votes
Michael Peroutka (C-MD)/Chuck Baldwin (C-FL) - 0 electoral votes and 1,217,443 (1.1%) popular votes
Ralph Nader (I-CT)/Peter Camejo (I-CA) - 0 electoral votes and 582,037 (0.5%) popular votes

WOW! Kerry wins Alabama, Texas, and Utah!

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I played as Ralph Nader in 2004, and watched things unfold:

I my mind, George W. Bush decides not to run for a second term, Dick Cheney also declines to run. Colin Powell destroyed Lincoln Chaffee in the Republican primaries, winning every state.

The Democratic Primaries were between Howard Dean and John Edwards, at the start, Dean had a small lead over Edwards, but soon Edwards took the lead, and took a comfortable win.

At the Convention, Powell chose Chaffe as his running mate and Edwards chose Tom Vilsack.

During the entire campaign, Powell was winning by a landslide in the polls, and Edwards was never winning more than five states.  Edwards won every debate, but this didn't affect Powell numbers.

And on election day, Colin Powell won in the largest landslide since 1820, and was projected the President-elect at 8:35 PM.
Colin Powell/Lincoln Chaffee - 535 electoral votes, and 59,513,528 (61.4%) popular votes
John Edwards/Tom Vilsack - 3 electoral votes, and 36,369,665 (37.9%) popular votes

Edwards also barley carried Washington, DC:

Edwards-106,436 50.4%
Powell-103,556 49%

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Al Gore/John Kerry v. Dan Quayle/Dick Cheney v. Nader/LaDuke v. Buchanan/Foster (me)

Polls stayed close between Gore and Quayle during the entire campaign, but Gore always had a lead of 2-3 points. Gore won the first and third debates, with the second as a draw, and Kerry won the VP debate. Come election day, Gore pulled off a comfortable victory over Quayle, 
receiving only 16 fewer electoral votes than Clinton in 1996.

Gore/Kerry-54,900,445 (50.9%) & 363 electoral votes
Quayle/Cheney-49,186,098 (45.6%) & 175 electoral votes
Nader/La Duke-3,093,003 (2.9%)
Buchanan/Foster-633,994 (0.6%)

Strangely, Quayle carried Indianan 51 % to 48%! Most of the south was very close. I was very happy with Georgia only going to Quayle by five points! It was neck and neck for most of the night, and Gore lead there many times!

[Barnes]

1992 Presidential (No Republicans)

Part I: Democratic Primaries

The Primaries were filled to the brim with candidates. But at the beginning, it seemed like a Clinton-Cuomo fight. After February, the only major candidates left were Clinton, Cuomo, and Jay Rockefeller. Rockefeller started picking up steam, and split the south with Clinton, and Cuomo was unable to catch a majority of delegates.

Mario Cuomo-1599 Delegates, and 42.1% of the popular vote
Jay Rockefeller-939 Delegates, and 28.4% of the popular vote
Bill Clinton-869 Delegates, and 29.4% of the popular vote

It looked like the Convention battle would be between Cuomo and Rockefeller with Clinton playing as king-maker. But two weeks after the last primaries, Clinton endorsed Rockefeller and dropped out. With all of Clinton's delegates, Rockefeller was the Democratic nominee.

Jay Rockefeller-1808 Delegates
Mario Cuomo-1599 Delegates

At the Convention, Rockefeller picked Bill Bradley as his running mate and headed into the General election to face Perot/Stockdale.

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Rockefeller had a crushing lead in the polls during the entire election. Perot tried to hold on to he Mountain West, the only region he was winning in, but even there, some states slipped through his fingers. He was also competitive in Maine and New Hampshire.

Rockefeller crushed Perot in all three debates, and Bradley crushed Stockdale. And on election day, the Democrats won in a huge landslide. 

Rockefeller/Bradley-505 electoral votes, and 43,707,902 (62.2%) popular votes
Perot/Stockdale-33 electoral votes, and 26,552,157 (37.8%) popular votes

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1980: I ran as George Bush. The whole primary Bush was tied with Reagan in delegates. However, a string of wins in April gave Bush the edge, and he went on to win the nomination.

Carter slaughtered Kennedy, with Kennedy only winning one state.

Due to the primary, Bush was behind the whole time, and never came close to victory. Despite superior debating skills, Bush lost both debates.

Carter wins in a landslide:

Carter: 45,951,609     56.4%
Bush: 35,463,321     43.6%

Lightly colored states were won by less than a 5% margin.

Damn.

What happened in New York, though?

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I played as Anderson in 1980.

John Connally/Phil Crane (R): 322 EV, and 38,385,280 (44.2%)
Jimmy Carter/Walter Monalde (D): 216 EV, and 37,789,489 (43%)
John Anderson/Patrick Lucey (I): 0EV, and 11,247,346 (12.8%)

Anderson did really well across the entire country, but his best showing was in Maine with 24.2% of the vote! Texas was the closest:

Carter: 2,431,703 (45.2%)
Connelly: 2,426,301 (45.1%)
Anderson: 562,546 (9.7%)

Connelly was projected the President about half way through the night, but not long after that, Texas got really close, and they took the projection back. He hovered around 269 for the rest of the night, with Carter slowly catching up to him, but then California went, and Connelly won.

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I played as Anderson in 1980.

John Connally/Phil Crane (R): 322 EV, and 38,385,280 (44.2%)
Jimmy Carter/Walter Monalde (D): 216 EV, and 37,789,489 (43%)
John Anderson/Patrick Lucey (I): 0EV, and 11,247,346 (12.8%)

Anderson did really well across the entire country, but his best showing was in Maine with 24.2% of the vote! Texas was the closest:

Carter: 2,431,703 (45.2%)
Connelly: 2,426,301 (45.1%)
Anderson: 562,546 (9.7%)

Connelly was projected the President about half way through the night, but not long after that, Texas got really close, and they took the projection back. He hovered around 269 for the rest of the night, with Carter slowly catching up to him, but then California went, and Connelly won.

How did you get Anderson to win support? That is, if you started in the primaries, then Anderson would have started with 0%, both in the General Election and the primary maps.

I started in the General election. The main reason was because I wanted the GOP candidate to be someone other than Reagan. But I ran really hard in the Northeast, and used a lot of footsoilders there, in New York I used more than Carter or Connelly!

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I played as George Wallace in 1972 against Nixon.

Didn't do so hot.....

My best state surprisingly was Massachusetts.

Who was Wallace's running mate?

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Lieberman vs. Bush

Bush creamed Lieberman in the election, but Joe strangely carried Arkansas? And Connecticut was the closest state going for Lieberman by 0.1% or 636 votes! And for some reason the choice of Vilsack as Lieberman's running mate, caused Iowa to go to Bush 57% to 43%!

George W. Bush/Dick Cheney-325 electoral votes, and 53,444,065 votes or 53.1%
Joseph I. Lieberman/Tom Vilsack-213 electoral votes, and 46,493,772 votes or 46.2%
Ralph Nader/Peter Cemejo-789,162 votes or 0.8%

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Howard Dean vs. George W. Bush-2004

I played as Nader.

Howard Dean/Tom Vilsack (D)-297 electoral votes, and 49.8% of the popular vote
George W. Bush/Dick Cheney (R)-241 electoral votes, and 49.4% of the popular vote
Ralph Nader/Peter Camejo-0 electoral votes, and  0.8% of the popular vote

The Closest state was Arkansas, which Dean won 49.8% to 49.5% or by about 3,000 votes!

Nader's best state was Connecticut with 1.5% of the vote.

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When Donald Trump is in the running, he likes to use a LOT of adds with his millions. Not the best speaker by far, but he is able to reach many more people than he would otherwise. As a result, his canidacy pretty much messed up the map, since he appealed to just about everyone, causing victories for others that would probably never happen.

George W. Bush (R-TX)/John Danforth (R-MO) 38,507,912 36.5% / 267 Electoral
Al Gore (D-TN)/Bill Richardson (D-NM) 36,767,256 34.8% / 216 Electoral
Donald Trump (R-NY)/David Boren (R-OK) 30,261,689 28.7% / 55 Electoral

Who won in the house?

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2004

Light Colored States are within 10% of the runner-up

George W. Bush (R-TX)/Dick Cheney (R-WY)     71,463,538  74.3% / 538 Electoral
John Kerry (D-MA)/Bill Richardson (D-NM)     24,739,598  25.7% / 0 Electoral

OMG!

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Al Gore (TN)/Jeanne Shaheen (NH) 286 electoral votes, and 51,817,071 popular votes (48.1%)
George W. Bush (TX)/Dick Cheney (WY) 252 electoral votes, and 51,364,392 popular votes (47.6%)
Ralph Nader (CT)/Winona LaDuke (MN) 0 electoral votes, and 3,785,369 popular votes (3.5%)

I played as Nader, whose best state was Alaska with 11.1% of the vote.

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2008 - I played as Thompson and won against Clinton in the most bizzare election I've ever seen.

Senator Hillary Clinton (D-NY) / Governor Bill Richardson (D-NM) - 91 EVs, 42.5%
Fmr. Senator Fred Thompson (R-TN) / Fmr. Governor Mitt Romney (R-MA) - 447 EVs, 57.5%

Bizarre.

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Governor Mario Cuomo (NY)/Governor Ann Richards (TX) - 501 electoral votes, and 46,992,456 popular votes (45.2%)
President George Bush (TX)/Vice President Dan Quayle (IN) - 37 electoral votes, and 34,772,125 popular votes (33.4%)
Businessman H. Ross Perot (TX)/Admiral James Stockdale (CA) - 0 electoral votes, and 22,279,971 popular votes (21.4%)

I played as Perot, and actually did about five percent better than the polls on election day had me doing. I came within four points of winning Maine.

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Jerry Brown/Bob Kerrey: 342 EV, 42.2% PV
George H.W. Bush/Dan Quayle: 196 EV, 38.6% PV
Ross Perot/Pat Choate: 0 EV, 19.2% PV

I played as Perot. The closest state was Delaware, where Brown won it by 111 votes!

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Dick Gephardt/Douglas Wilder: 278 EV, 37.6% PV (41,448,954)
George Bush/Pete Wilson: 243 EV, 37.6% PV (41,404,421)
Ross Perot/James Stockdale: 17 EV, 24.7% PV (24,243,489)

I played as Wilder in the primaries against Gephardt, Tsongas, and Harkin, and lost big. However, I kept playing as Gephardt with Wilder as my VP and won it by a hair.