President Forever results thread...

[Antonio the Sixth]

Seems interesting. Is it a dowloadable game ? If yes, can you give me a link ? Thanks a lot.

[Antonio the Sixth]

Seems interesting. Is it a dowloadable game ? If yes, can you give me a link ? Thanks a lot.

Here's a link, hope it helps.
http://www.theoryspark.com/political_games/president_forever/info/index.htm

Thanks a lot.

Seems interesting. Is it a dowloadable game ? If yes, can you give me a link ? Thanks a lot.

An amazing game. Only a political geek would love it though. I'm actually playing it now, still on demo though. (1 more day! ) I'm Bill Richardson, running against Joe Biden. in the Democratic primaries.

So I will certainly adore it !

[Antonio the Sixth]

During my first primary ( I chose Obama ), I won Iowa and Michigan while Gore won New Hampshire. I'm still ahead in pratically every state axcept New York, California, Arizona and Arkansas.

[Antonio the Sixth]

My situation 5 weeks before the election :

I really need to improve my tactics.

[Antonio the Sixth]

Wesley Clark/John Edwards (D): 47.2% (274 E.V.)
Mitt Romney/John McCain (R): 51.1% (264 E.V.)
Michael Peroutka (C): 1.7% (0 E.V.)

My liberal Mitt Romney loses despite winning the four most populous states in the country, a feat which has never before been done. The majority of Clark's victories were razor thin.

One of the strangest maps I ever saw.

[Antonio the Sixth]

My first complete campaign.
As Obama, I easily destroyed Clinton and Gore in the Primaries and could rapidly concentrate myself on the general elections.

I picked Edwards as my running mate. On the republican side, Giuliany won very closely against Romney and nominated Brownback.
I never lost the solid lead I had, even if I did a bit worse than expected :

Obama/Edwards : 63.077.202 ( 53,8% ), 332 E.V.
Giuliani/Brownback : 54.111.381 ( 46,2% ), 206 E.V.


Oh, and the most great : Texas results
Obama : 49,9
Giuliani : 50,1
I strongly campaigned here and it was the closest state !

[Antonio the Sixth]

Can I ask you some help ?

I'm trying to use the candidate editor, and I managed to understand everything except one thing : the candidate's percentages. Could someone try to explain me what exactly means "starting", "committed", "leaning", "undecided" and "alienated" percentages and what are their exact effects ?
For example, naively thinking that "starting percentage" was the percentage owned by a candidate at the start of an election, I tried to set them at 100. As a result, the real score was.. 0% ! What does it mean ?

[Antonio the Sixth]

Uh...
That threw me off too!
I think, starting percentage is the number you would get on election day. If you have 100% committed, you would have your starting percentage as your polling percentage. I think that leaning is undecideds who would break for you, and undecided are ones that could easily be swayed, but would also vote for you.

I could be wrong. If I am, I apologize.

Thanks.

Anyone who could more precisely inform me ?

[Antonio the Sixth]

Just played the 2008 with historic candiates scenario again. I played as George Washington.

Going into election day, I was only leading in New Hampshire, Pennsylvania, Virginia and West Virginia, but a set of 4 ads (two for Washington leadership and one each attacking Eisenhower and Roosevelt) catapulted me forward come election night winning some states out of no where and holding the leading in the popular vote throughout the count. I was the only candidate to break 40% in any state.

President Dwight D. Eisenhower (R-NY)/President Richard Nixon (R-CA) - 196 Electoral Votes and 45,392,922 (28.0%) Popular Votes
President George Washington (N/A-VA)/President John Adams (F-MA) - 195 Electoral Votes and 51,989,001 (32.1%) Popular Votes
President Franklin D. Roosevelt (D-NY)/President Harry Truman (D-MO) - 147 Electoral Votes and 44,263,284 (27.3%) Popular Votes
Others (Adams for the Democratic-Republican Party and Tyler for the Whig Party) - 20,239,137 (12.5%) Popular Votes combined.

Unfortunatly for Washington, the winner of the Popular Vote, and Eisenhower, who had a pluralty of the electoral votes, the Democratic congress chose President Roosevelt to become president once again.

Looks very original to see Roosevelt winning in Vermont and Eisenhower winning in Alabama.

[Antonio the Sixth]

Just played the 2008 with historic candiates scenario again. I played as George Washington.

Going into election day, I was only leading in New Hampshire, Pennsylvania, Virginia and West Virginia, but a set of 4 ads (two for Washington leadership and one each attacking Eisenhower and Roosevelt) catapulted me forward come election night winning some states out of no where and holding the leading in the popular vote throughout the count. I was the only candidate to break 40% in any state.

President Dwight D. Eisenhower (R-NY)/President Richard Nixon (R-CA) - 196 Electoral Votes and 45,392,922 (28.0%) Popular Votes
President George Washington (N/A-VA)/President John Adams (F-MA) - 195 Electoral Votes and 51,989,001 (32.1%) Popular Votes
President Franklin D. Roosevelt (D-NY)/President Harry Truman (D-MO) - 147 Electoral Votes and 44,263,284 (27.3%) Popular Votes
Others (Adams for the Democratic-Republican Party and Tyler for the Whig Party) - 20,239,137 (12.5%) Popular Votes combined.

Unfortunatly for Washington, the winner of the Popular Vote, and Eisenhower, who had a pluralty of the electoral votes, the Democratic congress chose President Roosevelt to become president once again.

Looks very original to see Roosevelt winning in Vermont and Eisenhower winning in Alabama.

It's supposed to take place in '08, so the states are all in 2008 voting patterns.

To be realistic, you should modify GE percentages using the html.

[Antonio the Sixth]

...
Could not lose with a similar endorsement.

[Antonio the Sixth]

2004 - I played as Kerry/Bayh

Senator John Kerry (D-MA)/Senator Evan Bayh (D-IN) - 397 electoral votes and 63,124,289 (55.1%) popular votes
President George W. Bush (R-TX)/Vice President Dick Cheney (R-WY) - 141 electoral votes and 46,927,382 (41.0%) popular votes
Michael Badnarik (L-TX)/Lance Brown (L-CA) - 0 electoral votes and 2,610,493 (2.3%) popular votes
Michael Peroutka (C-MD)/Chuck Baldwin (C-FL) - 0 electoral votes and 1,217,443 (1.1%) popular votes
Ralph Nader (I-CT)/Peter Camejo (I-CA) - 0 electoral votes and 582,037 (0.5%) popular votes

Oh, Utah !
What a victory !!!!!

[Antonio the Sixth]

No real "result" here, but anyway.

While change08's screenshot of Dukakis endorsing himself is certainly funny, this is more ridiculous....

Ah, yes, I know. Gore can be a crusader of Obama, and if he is running against Gore...

[Antonio the Sixth]

Ran as McCarthy in the 1976 race, focused mainly on AZ and watched the race. After running a strong campaign, McCarthy won AZ in a small margin over Reagan, Wallace fizzled out come election day and Reagan won big in the electorate.

(R)-Ronald Reagan/Richard Schweicker: 360 EV, 50.5%
(D)-George Wallace/Jerry Brown: 172 EV, 46.3%
(I)-Eugene McCarthy/Varied in States: 6 EV, 3.2%

Wallace wins Vermont

[Antonio the Sixth]

No real "result" here, but anyway.

While change08's screenshot of Dukakis endorsing himself is certainly funny, this is more ridiculous....

Ah, yes, I know. Gore can be a crusader of Obama, and if he is running against Gore...

Actually, no. Al Gore cannot be a crusader for Obama.

Or Edwards, don't remember...

[Antonio the Sixth]

1984

Former Vice President Walter Mondale (D-MN)/Representative Geraldine Ferraro (D-NY) - 527 Electoral Votes and 48,524,118 (55.1%) Popular Votes
President Ronald Reagan (R-CA)/Vice President George H. W. Bush (R-TX) - 11 Electoral Votes and 35,436,165 (40.2%) Popular Votes
Former Representative John Anderson (I-IL)/Former Ambassador Patrick Lucey (I-WI) - 0 Electoral Votes and 4,086,127 (4.6%) Popular Votes

Great ! If only it could be the reality...

[Antonio the Sixth]

Ahaha! I accomplished one of my main goals just now: Win with a 3rd party candidate. Granted, it was Perot, but it's still awesome, especially since I blew him out. I trailed in polls the final day, but thanks to lots of footsoldiers, I won almost every state I competed in...

Perot/Stockdale: 73,616,305  40.9%
Bush/Qualye:      67,710,335  37.6%
Clinton/Gore:      38,831,866  21.6%

In real life, a Perot win would have taken mostly Bush voters and Clinton would be far ahead of him...

[Antonio the Sixth]

General election map

Senator Barack Obama (D-IL)/Senator Hillary Clinton (D-NY) - 439 electoral votes and 73,615,476 (56.5%) popular votes
Former Mayor Rudy Guiliani (R-NY)/Senator John Thune (R-SD) - 99 electoral votes and 45,246,426 (34.8%) popular votes
Others - 0 electoral votes and 11,320,192 (8.7%) popular votes

Winnig so many states with so few popular votes is a Goldwater-esque performance for Giuliani.

[Antonio the Sixth]

I just did the most amazing thing on President Forever.
So I ran as Hatch in 2000. I made Romney his VP. They faced off against Gore and Nader.

Popular Vote;
Hatch- 48.6%
Gore- 48.7%
Nader- 2.7%

So, like in RL, Gore wins the Popular Vote.
The Map:

Just like RL 2000, percentages and everything, minus New York.
Okay, now, Hatch won Florida by about 30,000 votes, but let's take a close look at New Mexico. Though it wouldn't sway the election...
Hatch- 612,803
Gore- 612,804
Nader- 51,066

Don't beleieve me?

Just great.

[Antonio the Sixth]

Edwards v. Gingrich, with myself as Edwards.

It's the first time I've ever played this game, and I did horribly as you can see

You should maybe chose the "easy" mode in this case. I managed to win with 54% in my first time so.

[Antonio the Sixth]

Edwards also barley carried Washington, DC:

Edwards-106,436 50.4%
Powell-103,556 49%

...

[Antonio the Sixth]

Ran McCain as the Democratic Candidate and Obama as the Republican to see what would happen.

(D)-John McCain/Russ Feingold: 488 EV 57.9%
(R)-Barack Obama/Sarah Palin: 50 EV 41.6%
Other: 0 EV 0.5%

[Antonio the Sixth]

2012

President Barack Obama (D-IL)/Vice President Joe Biden (D-DE) - 535 electoral votes and 76,245,410 (64.2%) popular votes
Former Governor Sarah Palin (R-AK)/Governor Mark Sanford (R-SC) - 3 electoral votes and 42,519,275 (35.8%) popular votes

That's not so far from the reality if Palin had run.

[Antonio the Sixth]

David Coppersmith (R) : 35.34% (Blue, me)
Mike Bloomberg (I) : 34.77% (green)
David Paterson (D) : 29.89% (red)


played my friend's President forever at his house. He made his own 2010 Governor of NY scenario.

Really, don't ask what happened, WTF at queens....I won queens...

Didn't know there were gubernatorial P4E versions.

[Antonio the Sixth]

David Coppersmith (R) : 35.34% (Blue, me)
Mike Bloomberg (I) : 34.77% (green)
David Paterson (D) : 29.89% (red)


played my friend's President forever at his house. He made his own 2010 Governor of NY scenario.

Really, don't ask what happened, WTF at queens....I won queens...

Didn't know there were gubernatorial P4E versions.

Check out the theory spark site, there's quite a few that you can just add to your own game.

http://scenarios.theoryspark.com/category/p4e8/

Great. I'll add them when I'll be back home.