President Forever results thread...

[ilikeverin]

Indiana won by Kerry... in my dreams *sniff*

[ilikeverin]

Lots of people talked about the only way for a 3rd party person to win/get any states was for them to be like Perot and have lots of money.  This is true!

Before election map:


Overall map:


As you can see, Kerry almost won, but, of course, it went to the House where Bush won

% maps:








(Whoops, that's Libertarian % not Democratic %)

(Yes, I did run ads in all states at the end)

(IIRC Colorado was the closest state w/~32-31-32-2 (D-R-I-L) or some such)

[ilikeverin]

Yes, I changed running mates just for the heck of it.

You rebel you

[ilikeverin]

WHEE!

Made a new scenario, starting on August 1.  I was Badnarik, switched all positions to Right on first day, to left on last.

Here's how it turned out:



PV (B-K-N): 44% (55,847,756)- 44% (55,532,221)- 11% (14,011,201)
EV (B-K-N): 249-289-0

THE swing state: Texas.  Final tally: Kerry: 35.9%, Bush: 34.3%, Nader: 29.6%.

Kerry % map:


Bush % map:


Nader % map:


Best states:
Kerry: Michigan, 66.6%
Bush: Idaho & North Dakota, 74.2%
Nader: Texas, 29.6% (he also got, 29.4% and 2nd place in Alabama)

Worst states:
Kerry: Utah, 19.3%
Bush: New Hampshire, 27.9%
Nader: Missouri, .5%

[ilikeverin]

Made a new scenario, starting on August 1. I was Badnarik, switched all positions to Right on first day, to left on last.

I remember one time I was playing the 1932 scenario as Hoover. About a week and a half before the election, it was neck-and-neck. I thought to look at my platform and was like "wtf this platform sucks" so I completely changed it without thinking about what would happen and subsequently lost all but two states.

LOL

[ilikeverin]

My best result so far as Perot.  Rather slapdash effort on my part throughout, especially as I grew convinced I wasn't getting anywhere.

As usual, of course, I surged in the last weekend and in the last two days before the election, gaining PA and WA.

CA and UT were complete suprises, as I thought Clinton and Bush had them in the bag, respectively--of course, I only won California by 65,000 votes.

Beat Bush in the EV count due to CA and TX, and got a good 24% of the PV.

That's nothing compared to a result I got [I don't know when]!

[ilikeverin]

Verin how did you make those great maps? Is their a program that you use or is it just paint?

Just paint and the Atlas key

[ilikeverin]

Badnarik

What do you have as the attributes of Badnarik?  (Leadership, Charisma, Stamina etc.)

[ilikeverin]

Badnarik

What do you have as the attributes of Badnarik? (Leadership, Charisma, Stamina etc.)

Whatever they were originally set as in the 2004 scenario. I didn't change the candidates themselves at all, I just gave everyone $100,000,000 and a party establishment of 5.

Badnarik isn't in the 2004 scenario in my game

[ilikeverin]

What happens when Kerry runs against a perfect (all-around 5) extreme leftist candidate, using my super-long campaign scenario:

[ilikeverin]

I won as Taft, easily defeating TR, Wilson, and debs:



William Taft (R): 35% of the Pop. Vote; 331 Electoral Votes

Woodrow Wilson: 27% of the Pop. Vote; 142 Electoral Votes

Theodore Roosevelt: 23% of the Pop. Vote; 58 Electoral Votes

Eugene Debs: 13% of the Pop. Vote; 0 Electoral Votes

That's nothing Once, I won the entire solid south as Taft

[ilikeverin]

I've been using the 'make lots of ads and then deploy them the week before the election' strategy.  Except I've also been researching strategies.

Let's just say this: Whee!

(Note: I use Dynamism, because it's fun)

Monday, November 1st's polls have revealed some interesting phenomena (percentages listed Clark (Clark Change)-Bush (Bush Change)-Nolan (Nolan Change))

CA: 57 (+11)-39 (-3)-3 (+2)
NM: 52 (+12)-45 (-11)-1 (0)
KS: 53 (+18)-42 (-7)-4 (+2)
MO: 53 (+12)-44 (-11)-2 (-1)
LA: 62 (+31)-34 (-8)-2 (+1)
TN: 53 (+13)-44 (-13)-2 (0)
GA: 56 (+24)-41 (-5)-1 (0)
MI: 57 (+12)-30 (-13)-11 (+3)
IN: 50 (+15)-48 (-5)-0 (0)
MD: 67 (+27)-30 (-7)-1 (+1)
NY: 49 (+11)-45 (-11)-5 (0)
CT: 57 (+18)-34 (-5)-1 (0)
VT: 66 (+26)-28 (-10)-4 (+1)
ME: 60 (+17)-35 (-5)-3 (0)

Nolan also inexplicably gained 12 points in Arizona, bringing the total there to 42 (-3)-34 (0)-16 (+12) (Yes, somehow even though Deleware is 'Bush country', and states such as New York were 'Bush country' before the ad blitz... somehow, Arizona was 'Clark solid'

Election update is next post...

EDIT: Bush also has a 32 point lead in Minnesota

[ilikeverin]

Wesley Clark (me)-55% 407 EV
George W. Bush-41% 131 EV
Whatshisface Nolan-3% 0 EV

Best States

Clark:
(DC 89.0%)
Rhode Island 75.7%
Maryland 72.0%
New Jersey 70.2%
Massachusetts 69.6%
Washington 69.3%

Bush:
Alabama 60.2%
Alaska 59.8%
Idaho 59.6%
Mississippi 58.4%
Arkansas 57.3%

Nolan:
Arizona 20.9%
Michigan 12.3%
Vermont 7.3%
Ohio 6.2%
New York 5.7%

Worst States

Clark:
Alaska 38.2%
(tie) Idaho 38.3%
(tie) Arkansas 38.3%
Mississippi 39.0%
(tie) Alabama 39.2%
(tie) Hawaii 39.2%
Ohio 40.7%

Bush:
(DC 10.7%)
Rhode Island 22.0%
Maryland 26.3%
Vermont 27.7%
Massachusetts 28.3%
New Jersey 29.6%

Nolan:
(tie) Nebraska 0.0% (46 votes)
(tie) Delaware 0.0% (105 votes)
(tie) New Jersey 0.0% (867 votes)
(tie) Illinois 0.0% (1,937 votes)
DC 0.1% (354 votes)

Close states (<5%)
Too lazy to do %'s, but, in no particular order:
Clark over Bush: Utah, Texas, Nebraska, Montana, North Dakota, North Carolina, Pennsylvania
Bush over Clark: Nevada, South Dakota, South Carolina

Election Day Ad Blitz Switchers (Clark-Bush-Nolan)
Utah: 49.3-48.2-2.4
Montana: 50.1-49.5-0.2
North Dakota: 51.8-47.5-.5
Nebraska: 52.4-47.5-0.0
Oklahoma: 54.8-41.6-3.5
Texas: 50.7-47.5-1.6
Wisconsin: 54.8-42.9-2.2
Kentucky: 52.6-43.5-3.7
North Carolina: 51.1-47.3-1.4
Virginia: 54.3-42.7-2.8
West Virginia: 52.5-46.2-1.2
Pennsylvania: 50.0-47.7-2.2

Hooray

[ilikeverin]

This time I wanted to see if the strategy works for 3rd party candidates... I guess it does



Howard Dean- 43%, 271 EV
George W. Bush- 41%, 267 EV
Ralph Nader (me)- 13%, 0 EV
Michael Badnarik (I finally made him )- 1%, 0 EV

The campaign was crazy.  Up until the last week or two, Dean was failing... then a nicely timed scandal and 3 debate wins gave him somewhat of a fighting chance.  The thing that put him over the top, however, was my last second ad blitz's one negative ad against Bush

Dean



Best States:
(DC 67.9%)
Illinois 60.8%
Pennsylvania 58.6%
Iowa 54.9%
Wisconsin 52.5%
Tennessee 52.3%

Worst States:
Utah 18.6%
Idaho 22.5%
Alaska 22.8%
South Dakota 23.4%
(tie) Montana 24.6%
(tie) Nebraska 24.6%

Bush



Best States:
Idaho 58.5%
Alaska 57.9%
Nebraska 56.9%
New York 54.8% (?!?)
Minnesota 54.6% (?!?)

Worst States:
(DC 11.4%)
Rhode Island 21.9%
Hawaii 25.0%
Vermont 27.2%
Maine 27.6%
New Jersey 28.6%

Nader



Best States:
South Dakota 34.8%
Montana 33.7%
Rhode Island 30.8%
South Carolina 29.6%
Utah 27.6%

Worst States:
Illinois 3.8%
Florida 7.4%
Arizona 7.7%
Nevada 7.8%
Indiana 8.4%

Closest Call:
Montana; Bush 38.8-Nader 33.7-Dean 24.6-Bdanarik 2.7

Badnarik

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Best States:
Arizona 7.1%
Illinois 6.1%
Texas 5.0%
Wyoming 4.7%
(tie) Vermont 4.1%
(tie) West Virginia 4.1%

Worst States:
(tie) Delaware 0.0% (23)
(tie) South Carolina 0.0% (30)
(tie) Idaho 0.0% (258)
(tie) Connecticut 0.0% (370)
(tie) North Carolina 0.0% (617)
(tie) New Jersey 0.0% (659)
(tie) Missouri 0.0% (1,253)
(tie) Florida 0.0% (1,814)

Closest States (<5%)
Oregon: Bush 43.4-Dean 43.2-Nader 11.6-Badnarik 1.5
Washington: Dean 44.3-Bush 42.3-Nader 12.1-Badnarik 1.1

States Which Probably Switched Due To My Ad Blitz
Washington (44.3-42.3-12.1-1.1)
Ohio (47.2-40.8-11.3-0.5)

[ilikeverin]

Clark is a beast for this strategy.

Once again, I used 'The Strategy', but this time, instead of doing anti-Bush Leadership ads, I did anti-Bush Integrity ads.

Here are the changes in one week, sorted by + Clark Change (listed in +Clark/-Bush form.  bolded if they are now 'Clark country'):

Nevada +36/-13
South Carolina +36/-11
Kentucky +35/-10
Rhode Island +35/-7
Indiana +35/-6
South Dakota +34/-4
Nebraska +33/-4
Utah +32/-14
Mississippi +32/-12
Montana +32/-7
Idaho +30/-14
New Hampshire  +30/-13
Louisiana +30/-10
West Virginia +30/-5
Missouri +29/-11
Minnesota +29/-8
Tennessee +29/-6
Maryland +29/-5
Vermont +28/-28
Kansas +28/-10
Virginia +27/-27
Wisconsin +27/-18
Iowa +26/-13
Colorado +26/-11
Maine +24/-10
North Dakota +24/-8
Washington +24/-4
Arkansas +23/-12
Oregon +23/-6
Oklahoma +23/-6
Delaware +20/-10
Arizona +20/-4
New Mexico +19/-8
Alaska +19/-3
Wyoming +18/-9
Connecticut +15/-8
Alabama +11/-2

Now I'm moving Clark over to GET IDAHO (Idaho, Alaska, and Alabama were the only ones not swayed to the Clark side (Clark side. Dark side.  Geddit?  Haw haw haw haw haw); Alaska and Alabama are Bush leans and Idaho's a Tossup with +1 Bush)

Oddly enough, the best Bush state right now is California :S where he is leading by 28% (60-32).

[ilikeverin]

And all that led to this rather odd map:



Clark/Clinton (me)- 57%, 479 EV
Bush/Cheney- 36%, 59 EV
Nader/LaDuke- 4%, 0 EV
Badnarik/Campagna- 2%, 0 EV

Tooooooo lazy to do the rest...

NEED FOOD

[ilikeverin]

OK, I'll stop posting now

[ilikeverin]

I had a dream last night where I played President Forever.  I was Perot in 1992 and won tons of states, even though the color used for me was blue. 









Stupid boring dreams of mundane pointlessness

[ilikeverin]

Liberal: Ilikeverin/Akno

Yay

[ilikeverin]

I think this was the first time ever I managed to win all states:





John Kerry
Popular Vote: 63%
Electoral Vote: 538

George W. Bush
Popular Vote: 31%
Electoral Vote: 0

Ralph Nader
Popular Vote: 3%
Electoral Vote: 0

You won Idaho

[ilikeverin]

Bush- 35%, 239 EV
Kerry- 33%, 196 EV
[Your] Mom- 26%, 103 EV
Badnarik- 3%, 0 EV

Bush %s:


Kerry %s:


Mom/Badnarik %s:


(*'s indicate places were Badnarik got >5%)

I won Wisconsin by 932 votes.  However, I lost Arkansas by 2,300

[ilikeverin]

The result in this election was rather disappointing; I gave Federate $80,000,000 to start out with, but he didn't do so well considering (I suppose it's because my anti-Bush ad backfired, though I did get a couple of scandals on him (and Kerry contributed) within the last week so his momentum was -442 on Election Day (Kerry's was -122, mine was +168))


Kerry/Edwards: 37%, 234 EV
Bush/Cheney: 34%, 138 EV
Con Federate/Reb El: 28%, 166 EV

I didn't win any states that weren't targeted in my electoral strategy.

[ilikeverin]

Taft vs. Wilson vs. Roosevelt vs. Jones (me )

[ilikeverin]

Bell/Everett (*hughughughug *; me): 36%, 147 EV
Lincoln/Hamlin: 22%, 74 EV
Douglas/Johnson: 22% (~8,000 votes more than Lincoln), 28 EV
Breckinridge/Lane: 19%, 54 EV

Congress elects Breckinridge?!?

Candidate maps:

[ilikeverin]

Maybe you should try starting with Bell and work your way up?  Or something?

I dunno, I've never tried playing as Lincoln before.