President Forever results thread...

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McCain v. Clinton v. Nader v. Philles

McCain (R) 279 50.5%
Clinton (D) 259 49.0%
Nader (I)            0.1%
Philles (L)          0.4%

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Giuliani v. Obama

Guliani 51.4% 323
Obama 48.6% 215

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Red is GOP and Blue is Democrat

Obama (D)388 50.2%
McCain (R)150 46.6%
Barr (L)    0   1.6%
Keyes (C)0   0.7%
Nader(I)  0   0.6%
McKinney(G)0   0.8%

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Red is GOP and Blue is Democrat

Obama (D)388 50.2%
McCain (R)150 46.6%
Barr (L)    0   1.6%
Keyes (C)0   0.7%
Nader(I)  0   0.6%
McKinney(G)0   0.8%

Weird; Obama wins Indiana and Mississippi but not Arkansas or Arizona?

PF is whack. Arizona went to McCain probably because it was his home state, and Arkansas hates Obama in general. I don't know why he won Indiana. I got a sh**tload of scandals called on me for the entire election, it was almost unreal. I got railed over and over again. I got within 1% and then Obama unleashed 2 10power scandals on me, and I could only muster one scandal on him the entire cycle.

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Ross Perot 222 EVs 33.3% PV
George Bush 184 33.9% PV
Bill Clinton 132 32.7% PV

Congress elected President Bush to a second term. Although, I thought congress was controlled by the Dems in 1992.

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Obama 269 50.8%
McCain 269 49.2%

Obama elected in the house.

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Giuliani/Sanford 373 51.1%
Obama/Biden     165 47.8%
Barr/Root               0   1.1%

Obama almost won Colorado, Montana, New Mexico, and Nevada. For a Dem he performed really well out west, while Rudy did well in the industrial NE.

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Giuliani/Sanford 373 51.1%
Obama/Biden     165 47.8%
Barr/Root               0   1.1%

Obama almost won Colorado, Montana, New Mexico, and Nevada. For a Dem he performed really well out west, while Rudy did well in the industrial NE.

     But in your map, he does win Nevada.

Oops. I miss spoke. What's even more amazing is that Giuliani almost won Vermont. He lost it by 3,000 votes.

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Nixon: 62% PV, 538 EV
McGovern: 38% PV, 0 EV

Why do you play this game? You win it with 538EVs every time. That can't be fun.

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I've realized that the original scenarios are a scam in PF + P. I mean, all you have to do is release 2 scandals and run a 50 state ad campaign the week before the election and you'll win in a landslide. I did the 1980 scenario with Reagan v. Carter v. Anderson and trailed Carter 48-35-10 and ended up winning 47-38-15.

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Wilson: 66% PV, 531 EV
Hughes: 34% PV, 0 EV

Why do you even play this game? 90% of your maps are clean sweeps.

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Ford           514  59.2%
Carter          25  37.9%
McCarthy       0    2.9%

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Ford           514  59.2%
Carter          25  37.9%
McCarthy       0    2.9%

     McCarthy did rather well there.

He got 22% in Arizona of all places. Go figure.

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Carter was pretty tough

Reagan 287 48%
Carter  251  46%
Anderson 0 6%

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Roosevelt 310 49.5%
Hoover     211 46.0%

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Barbour v. Obama v. Ventura in 2012. Say hello to President Haley Barbour! He almost pissed away a 10% lead and won by just 3%.

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Beat FDR!!!

Hoover 339
FDR      188

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Beat FDR!!!

Hoover 339
FDR      188

     Congratulations. Did you do it with or without ad blitzing?

I raised money and put footsoldiers in the Northeast and California. By the last week, I had $2m in the bank and ran 2 attack ads and 1 positive ad and released 2 scandals on FDR. I was still behind come election day, but he had -9.6 momentum and I had +3. When I came out of the gate ahead in places like Virginia and Kentucky, I knew I would probably win the race.

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Hoover: 57% PV, 393 EV
Roosevelt: 43% PV, 138 EV

Was this on the original PF for the one with the primaries? Texas was 80% and SC was 98% for Roosevelt on the PF+P which I played on.

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Hoover: 57% PV, 393 EV
Roosevelt: 43% PV, 138 EV

Was this on the original PF for the one with the primaries? Texas was 80% and SC was 98% for Roosevelt on the PF+P which I played on.

Original.  I didn't know they had one for 1932; can you give a link?

It's in the forum on 80soft.com

The one for the original had Hoover and FSR tied when you first start off. In the PF+P game, FDR leads 46-28 nationally when you first start off. The south never moves as FDR still broke 90% in SC, TX, AZ, MS, and AL even though he lost the race. That's why I was so happy I came back and beat him.

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Hoover: 57% PV, 393 EV
Roosevelt: 43% PV, 138 EV

Was this on the original PF for the one with the primaries? Texas was 80% and SC was 98% for Roosevelt on the PF+P which I played on.

Original.  I didn't know they had one for 1932; can you give a link?

It's in the forum on 80soft.com

The one for the original had Hoover and FSR tied when you first start off. In the PF+P game, FDR leads 46-28 nationally when you first start off. The south never moves as FDR still broke 90% in SC, TX, AZ, MS, and AL even though he lost the race. That's why I was so happy I came back and beat him.

     I remember that when I started off in the original, I was ahead in PA & VT & tied in a few other states. In total, there were maybe 10-12 states where FDR was leading by less than 10%.

When I started it, the two were tied at 44% or so. The south was way too close, because any Democrat would get 90% or so whatever the result was nationally in most states.

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Hoover: 57% PV, 393 EV
Roosevelt: 43% PV, 138 EV

Was this on the original PF for the one with the primaries? Texas was 80% and SC was 98% for Roosevelt on the PF+P which I played on.

Original.  I didn't know they had one for 1932; can you give a link?

It's in the forum on 80soft.com

The one for the original had Hoover and FSR tied when you first start off. In the PF+P game, FDR leads 46-28 nationally when you first start off. The south never moves as FDR still broke 90% in SC, TX, AZ, MS, and AL even though he lost the race. That's why I was so happy I came back and beat him.

     I remember that when I started off in the original, I was ahead in PA & VT & tied in a few other states. In total, there were maybe 10-12 states where FDR was leading by less than 10%.

When I started it, the two were tied at 44% or so. The south was way too close, because any Democrat would get 90% or so whatever the result was nationally in most states.

     Perhaps they were actually different versions of the scenario?

It could have been. I haven't downloaded any scenario on the original PF since 2004. But the south should not move on a good 1932 scenario, especially the deep south.

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Giuliani 478
Clinton   60

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Bush 482
Clinton 43
Perot 13

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I forgot about this game! I used to play it all the time before the election last year.