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« Reply #325 on: June 16, 2005, 11:46:55 AM »
« edited: June 16, 2005, 12:38:44 PM by Sarnstrom »

1968:

Humphrey
Popular Vote: 48,174,850     47%
Electoral Vote: 375

Nixon
Popular Vote: 42,608,568    42%
Electoral Vote: 118

Wallace
Popular Vote: 10,563,110   10%
Electoral Vote: 45

Closest State:
Alaska (Nixon-48.9%, Humphrey-48.8, only 164 votes between them)
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« Reply #326 on: June 18, 2005, 12:10:38 PM »
« Edited: June 18, 2005, 12:15:12 PM by Old Europe »

So, this was the "House of Representatives - USA 2002" scenario, played with "Prime Minister Forever - Canada".

I took the Libertarian Party and managed to get 21 House seats in the end.



Notes about the map:

1) The shades do not denote the popular vote, but the percentage of the total seats won by the party in the respective state.

2) Vermont was won by an Independent (Sanders), all other states who are marked with the Green colour were won by the Líbertarian Party.





Republican Party: 45%, 229 seats
Democratic Party: 39%, 184 seats
Libertarian Party: 10%, 21 seats
Independents: 5%, 2 seats (Sanders and James Traficant in Ohio)

Libertarian seats by state:
Texas - 10
Washington - 6
Louisiana - 1
South Dakota - 1
Utah - 1
Wisconsin - 1
Wyoming - 1
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« Reply #327 on: June 18, 2005, 04:35:16 PM »

1980, I'm Carter vs. Reagan vs. Anderson



Jimmy Carter/Walter Mondale: 306 Electoral Votes, 47%
Ronald Reagan/George Bush: 232 Electoral Votes, 44%
John Anderson/His VP: 0 Electoral Votes, 7%

Carter best non-DC state: West Virginia

Carter: 63%
Reagan: 36%
Anderson: 1%

Reagan best state: Utah

Reagan: 74%
Carter: 23%
Anderson: 3%

Anderson best state: Vermont

Reagan: 35%
Carter: 34%
Anderson: 31%

Closest State: Massachusetts

Carter: 39%
Reagan: 36%
Anderson: 25%


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« Reply #328 on: June 18, 2005, 10:28:53 PM »

My 1996 Scenario "The Contract with America", with Vince McMahon as the Libertarian:



Bill Clinton/Al Gore: 254 Electoral Votes, 31% of the Popular Vote

Bob Dole/Kack Kemp: 138 Electoral Votes, 27% of the Popular Vote

Ross perot/Angus King: 133 Electiral Votes; 17% of the Popular Vote

Vince McMahon/Lary Elder: 13 Electoral Votes; 23% of the Popular Vote

What a race!
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« Reply #329 on: June 20, 2005, 07:21:30 PM »



Richard Nixon: 288 Electoral Votes, 48%
George McGovern: 250 Electoral Votes, 50%
John Schmitz: 0 Electoral Votes, 1%

I was very close in Washington, but outside of that I was about 4% away in South Carolina, Oregon, and Pennsylvania.

I actually got in the upper 50% in Tennessee, Kentucky, Michigan, West Virginia, and Maryland.
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« Reply #330 on: June 21, 2005, 10:15:27 AM »

Hey I have a Idea. Someone can run like 4 people form here and see what happens.  Like 1 dem 1 rep 1 populist and 1 lib...
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« Reply #331 on: June 21, 2005, 10:38:02 AM »

Hey I have a Idea. Someone can run like 4 people form here and see what happens.  Like 1 dem 1 rep 1 populist and 1 lib...

I'll try that when I get a chance.

Conservative: PBrunsel/Keystone Phil
Libertarian: John Dibble/Alcon
Liberal: Ilikeverin/Akno
Populist: Al/Cosmo Kramer
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« Reply #332 on: June 21, 2005, 11:31:46 AM »


Yay Cheesy
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« Reply #333 on: June 22, 2005, 08:17:38 AM »

Hey I have a Idea. Someone can run like 4 people form here and see what happens.  Like 1 dem 1 rep 1 populist and 1 lib...

I'll try that when I get a chance.

Conservative: PBrunsel/Keystone Phil
Libertarian: John Dibble/Alcon
Liberal: Ilikeverin/Akno
Populist: Al/Cosmo Kramer


How do you change party establishment?

I ran this election, and it didn't work how it was supposed to. Despite having almost twice as much money as the major parties, Al and Dibble got a combined 10%.

PB won 368-170 (I was playing as Verin, I usually get somewhere between 250 and 300 EV's, so it's fair), but Al was basically a huge thorn in ILV's side, costing him a lot of states. It was 47-40-8-2 in the PV.
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« Reply #334 on: June 22, 2005, 03:20:31 PM »

Hey I have a Idea. Someone can run like 4 people form here and see what happens.  Like 1 dem 1 rep 1 populist and 1 lib...

I'll try that when I get a chance.

Conservative: PBrunsel/Keystone Phil
Libertarian: John Dibble/Alcon
Liberal: Ilikeverin/Akno
Populist: Al/Cosmo Kramer


How do you change party establishment?

I ran this election, and it didn't work how it was supposed to. Despite having almost twice as much money as the major parties, Al and Dibble got a combined 10%.

PB won 368-170 (I was playing as Verin, I usually get somewhere between 250 and 300 EV's, so it's fair), but Al was basically a huge thorn in ILV's side, costing him a lot of states. It was 47-40-8-2 in the PV.

You go into the President Forever Scenario folder and then open the folder of the scenario you want. You will see a folder labeled parties, open that up. You will see a set of text files with the names, Republican, Democratic, Independent, and Libertarian, on them. Open up the Independent folder first. Scroll down until you see party establishment. Change this number to a 5. Do the same in the Libertarian text file. You can run it like that and see how well they do but to make things more even I would go into the Republican and Democratic text files and make their party establishment rating either 3 or 4. If you don't want to do this, it only takes about 10 minutes, I can send you a modified 2004 scenario that would work with 4 parties.
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« Reply #335 on: June 22, 2005, 04:08:47 PM »

Hey I have a Idea. Someone can run like 4 people form here and see what happens.  Like 1 dem 1 rep 1 populist and 1 lib...

I'll try that when I get a chance.

Conservative: PBrunsel/Keystone Phil
Libertarian: John Dibble/Alcon
Liberal: Ilikeverin/Akno
Populist: Al/Cosmo Kramer


How do you change party establishment?

I ran this election, and it didn't work how it was supposed to. Despite having almost twice as much money as the major parties, Al and Dibble got a combined 10%.

PB won 368-170 (I was playing as Verin, I usually get somewhere between 250 and 300 EV's, so it's fair), but Al was basically a huge thorn in ILV's side, costing him a lot of states. It was 47-40-8-2 in the PV.

You go into the President Forever Scenario folder and then open the folder of the scenario you want. You will see a folder labeled parties, open that up. You will see a set of text files with the names, Republican, Democratic, Independent, and Libertarian, on them. Open up the Independent folder first. Scroll down until you see party establishment. Change this number to a 5. Do the same in the Libertarian text file. You can run it like that and see how well they do but to make things more even I would go into the Republican and Democratic text files and make their party establishment rating either 3 or 4. If you don't want to do this, it only takes about 10 minutes, I can send you a modified 2004 scenario that would work with 4 parties.


Assuming, of course, that lowering their establishment rating doesn't make them perform better
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« Reply #336 on: June 22, 2005, 04:11:05 PM »

Hey I have a Idea. Someone can run like 4 people form here and see what happens.  Like 1 dem 1 rep 1 populist and 1 lib...

I'll try that when I get a chance.

Conservative: PBrunsel/Keystone Phil
Libertarian: John Dibble/Alcon
Liberal: Ilikeverin/Akno
Populist: Al/Cosmo Kramer


How do you change party establishment?

I ran this election, and it didn't work how it was supposed to. Despite having almost twice as much money as the major parties, Al and Dibble got a combined 10%.

PB won 368-170 (I was playing as Verin, I usually get somewhere between 250 and 300 EV's, so it's fair), but Al was basically a huge thorn in ILV's side, costing him a lot of states. It was 47-40-8-2 in the PV.

You go into the President Forever Scenario folder and then open the folder of the scenario you want. You will see a folder labeled parties, open that up. You will see a set of text files with the names, Republican, Democratic, Independent, and Libertarian, on them. Open up the Independent folder first. Scroll down until you see party establishment. Change this number to a 5. Do the same in the Libertarian text file. You can run it like that and see how well they do but to make things more even I would go into the Republican and Democratic text files and make their party establishment rating either 3 or 4. If you don't want to do this, it only takes about 10 minutes, I can send you a modified 2004 scenario that would work with 4 parties.


Assuming, of course, that lowering their establishment rating doesn't make them perform better

Usually putting them at 3 or 4 makes them do worse. It's only on 1 or 2 that they perform better.
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« Reply #337 on: June 22, 2005, 04:46:38 PM »

Thanks, Colin Smiley

I'll redo the election now, hopefully we'll get some better results.
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« Reply #338 on: June 22, 2005, 07:18:12 PM »

Thanks, Colin Smiley

I'll redo the election now, hopefully we'll get some better results.

No problem. If that doesn't work I would suggest raising the money of the third party candidates while lowering that of the two major parties. If that still doesn't make it all that much closer, and more competitive, then you will need to probably change the starting totals and the party recognition numbers.
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« Reply #339 on: June 22, 2005, 07:52:43 PM »

Maybe you should make every member of the board a candidate and make a scenario to send into the website.
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« Reply #340 on: June 24, 2005, 05:33:09 PM »
« Edited: June 24, 2005, 05:35:14 PM by Mr. Hobbes »



Before.  Playing as Hobbes/Hastert versus a centrist Dem from Florida/Mark Warner.



After. 

GOTV!
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« Reply #341 on: June 24, 2005, 07:21:30 PM »

My first 500+ game!



Played against Wesley Clark/Hillary Clinton, this time with my VP being from Colorado.

I ended up with 56% (70,768,796) to Clark's 43% (53,594,434), and 509 to 29 in the Electoral.

Poor PBrunsel, I lost Iowa.
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« Reply #342 on: June 28, 2005, 12:22:37 AM »



I played as Perot in this one (1992)...interesting out of the states Bush won, Clinton won most of them in real life
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« Reply #343 on: July 03, 2005, 07:15:14 AM »

Downloaded and played a 1996 scenario, played as Pete Wilson/Patrick Buchanan  vs. Clinton/Gore and this was the result.

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« Reply #344 on: July 04, 2005, 06:18:12 PM »

My home made 1996 scenario once again. Here was the results of my Dan Quale ,96 Campaign:



Dan Quale/Tommy Thompson: 422 Electoral Votes; 57 percent of the popular vote

Bill Clinton/Al Gore: 116 Electoral Votes; 42 percent of the popular vote

If Quale can beat Clinton that bad maybe I made it too biased. I have sent it in to the website and hopefully it appears soon.
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« Reply #345 on: July 05, 2005, 08:15:09 PM »

Just had the most frustrating PF result ever

Howard Dean/John Edwards: 266 Electoral Votes; 53 Percent of the Popular Vote

George Bush/Dick Cheney: 272 Electoral Votes; 47 Percent of the Popular Vote

It was looking like a landslide for me up until the last two weeks, when i got hit by two level nine scandals, one right after another. This was the first PF game in weeks where I went into election day not knowing whether I'd win or not.   I thought I could survive CT and NH suddenly swinging against me, but after Hawaii reported in and I saw I had only 266... Shocked
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« Reply #346 on: July 13, 2005, 05:30:14 PM »

John Kerry (D-MA) vs. George W. Bush (R-TX) vs. Cosmo Kramer (Independent Populist-AR)

Just wanted to see how well Kramer's populism could hold out in an Independent campaign. Regionalism and Dynasmism were on.



Bush: 32% PV 101 EVs
Kerry: 39% PV 308 EVs
Kramer: 27% 129 EVs

Best State:

Bush: Idaho 55.7%
Kerry: Rhode Island 67.3% (DC Kerry 60.8%)
Kramer: Alaska 48.9% followed by Utah 47.9%

Worst States:

Bush: Rhode Island 21.9%
Kerry: Utah 16.5%
Kramer: Rhode Island and Connecticut 10.7%

Kramer did best in the South and the West and mostly took away from Religious Bush voters instead of Southern Democrats. Georgia was the only state of the old Confederacy were Kramer got below 20% of the vote and except for North Carolina he won more than 25% in every Southern state. Kramer also did well in the Northeast garnering over 25% in 5 Northeastern states and came in second, to Kerry, in 4. I'll post party by party maps soon.
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« Reply #347 on: July 15, 2005, 09:32:50 AM »

Interesting.......WOOT Alaska!
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« Reply #348 on: July 15, 2005, 08:02:05 PM »

1912: Taft vs. Wilson vs. Roosevelt vs. Debs



Taft: 25% 71 EVs
Wilson: 20% 48 EVs
Roosevelt: 36% 412 EVs
Debs: 17% O EVs

Best State:

Taft: Utah 55.8%
Wilson: Alabama 40.8%
Roosevelt: Minnesota 53.5%
Debs: Ohio 33.2%

Worst States:

Taft: Texas 10.1%
Wilson: South Dakota 8.9%
Roosevelt: Oklahoma 10.7%
Debs: Arkansas 0.0% (15)

More to come.
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« Reply #349 on: July 19, 2005, 02:18:18 PM »

I Created the leaders of the major parties in Sweden in PF and gave them the issue stands they hold in Sweden, but adjusted for American circumstances (favouring same tax rate would mean favouring low taxes in the game and so on) I was the libertarian and did nothing.



Persson/Nuder (D): 46% and 195 EVs
Reinfeldt/Olofsson (R): 52% and 343 EVs
Badnarik/Campagna (L): 1% and 0 EVs
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