President Forever results thread...

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1980

Congressman John Anderson (R-IL)/Congressman Jack Kemp (R-NY)-436 EV, 52.7%-42,877,018 votes.
President James Carter (D-GA)/Vice President Walter Mondale (D-MN)-102 EV,47.3%-38,537,911 votes.

Alabama: Carter-54.3%-800,907 votes. Anderson-45.7%-672,763 votes.
Alaska: Anderson-56.7%-66,912 votes. Carter-43.3%-51,050 votes.
Arizona: Anderson-63.6%-561,754 votes. Carter-36.4%-322,052 votes.
Arkansas: Anderson-53.1%-438,686 votes. Carter-46.9%-387,923 votes.
California: Anderson-56.0%-4,662,866 votes. Carter-44.0%-3,669,311 votes.
Colorado: Anderson-55.7%-523,985 votes. Carter-44.3%-416,964 votes.
Connecticut: Carter-53.1%-585,698 votes. Anderson-46.9%-517,241 votes.
Delaware: Carter-51.3%-108,240 votes. Anderson-48.7%-102,683 votes.
DC: Carter-74.9%-170,874 votes. Anderson-25.1%-57,410 votes.
Florida: Anderson-52.0%-1,795,077 votes. Carter-48.0%-1,658,049 votes.
Georgia: Carter-62.8%-1,217,633 votes. Anderson-37.2%-722,429 votes.
Hawaii: Carter-52.4%-163,619 votes. Anderson-47.6%-148,587 votes.
Idaho: Anderson-64.9%-200,076 votes. Carter-35.1%-108,047 votes.
Illinois: Anderson-50.0%-2,020,899 votes. Carter-50.0%-2,019,801 votes.
Indiana: Anderson-51.1%-988,597 votes. Carter-48.9%-944,370 votes.
Iowa: Anderson-54.5%-560,140 votes. Carter-45.5%-468,359 votes.
Kansas: Anderson-53.3%-460,001 votes. Carter-46.7%-402,896 votes.
Kentucky: Carter-52.6%-704,709 votes. Anderson-47.4%-635,225 votes.
Louisiana: Anderson-53.2%-782,188 votes. Carter-46.8%-688,987 votes.
Maine: Carter-50.5%-195,912 votes. Anderson-49.5%-192,293 votes.
Maryland: Carter-53.1%-828,161 votes. Anderson-46.9%-730,845 votes.
Massachusetts: Anderson-52.2%-1,053,578 votes. Carter-47.8%-965,622 votes.
Michigan: Anderson-54.8%-1,861,378 votes. Carter-45.2%-1,537,770 votes.
Minnesota: Carter-53.2%-764,203 votes. Anderson-46.8%-672,898 votes.
Mississippi: Carter-52.6%-468,786 votes. Anderson-47.4%-422,213 votes.
Missouri: Anderson-53.1%-992,769 votes. Carter-46.9%-876,672 votes.
Montana: Anderson-50.3%-133,859 votes. Carter-49.7%-132,272 votes.
Nevada: Anderson-59.7%-163,898 votes. Carter-40.3%-110,831 votes.
Nebraska: Anderson-58.9%-333,221 votes. Carter-41.1%-232,136 votes.
New Hampshire: Anderson-59.0%-177,789 votes. Carter-41.0%-123,773 votes.
New Jersey: Anderson-50.7%-1,374, 291 votes. Carter-49.3%-1,336,583 votes.
New Mexico: Anderson-52.1%-217,455 votes. Carter-47.9%-200,186 votes.
New York: Anderson-55.2%-3,652,116 votes. Carter-44.8%-2,965,583 votes.
North Carolina: Anderson-51.1%-1,107,718 votes. Carter-48.9%-1,060,084 votes.
North Dakota: Anderson-58.2%-134,045 votes. Carter-41.8%-96,421 votes.
Ohio: Anderson-54.9%-2,169,909 votes. Carter-45.1%-1,780,703 votes.
Oklahoma: Anderson-56.4%-629,979 votes. Carter-43.6%-486,238 votes.
Oregon: Anderson-51.7%-479,789 votes. Carter-48.3%-447,984 votes.
Pennsylvania: Anderson-51.7%-2,269,607 votes. Carter-48.3%-2,122,147 votes.
Rhode Island: Carter-54.2%-174,811 votes. Anderson-45.8%-147,940 votes.
South Carolina: Anderson-50.1%-554,257 votes. Carter-49.9%-551,829 votes.
South Dakota: Anderson-54.0%-130,122 votes. Carter-46.0%-110,825 votes.
Tennessee: Carter-52.8%-885,607 votes. Anderson-47.2%-793,171 votes.
Texas: Anderson-57.0%-2,979,120 votes. Carter-43.0%-2,243,894 votes.
Utah: Anderson-72.5%-328,164 votes. Carter-27.5%-124,318 votes.
Vermont: Carter-51.9%-85,587 votes. Anderson-48.1%-79,193 votes.
Virginia: Anderson-53.9%-1,044,388 votes. Carter-46.1%-893,121 votes.
Washington: Anderson-52.5%-752,041 votes. Carter-47.5%-679,185 votes.
West Virginia: Carter-51.3%-353,034 votes. Anderson-48.7%-335,778 votes.
Wisconsin: Anderson-55.6%-941,224 votes. Carter-44.4%-752,140 votes.
Wyoming: Anderson-62.8%-104,443 votes. Carter-37.2%-61,984 votes.

I started as Anderson in the primaries. I won Arkansas, and did well in Iowa, and built a lot of momentum. I won the nomination due to Bush, Baker, and Connally duking it out for weeks. Reagan peaked rather early, and I got his endorsement (and 300 delegates), allowing for surprise wins in New York and Illinois. The general looked like it would be very, very close. But with no third party candidates, the race was a lot less tight then I would have thought. In the end, the state of Illinois was won by 1,098 votes, being the closest state (dead 50.0-50.0 tie).

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Does anyone know how to add a party to a scenario? I can't use the candidate editor, but can I copy data from the data sheets onto another data sheet for to add a political party?

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2008

Senator Barack Obama (D-IL)/Senator Claire McCaskill-427 EV, 54.5% of the PV.
Senator Sam Brownback (R-KS)/Governor Charlie Crist (R-FL)-111 EV, 44.4% of the PV.
Mr. Chuck Baldwin (C-FL)/Mr. Darrell Castle (C-TE)-0.8% of the PV.
Mr. Wayne Allyn Root (L-NV)/Former Congressman Bob Barr (L-GA)-0.2% of the PV.

I..I....I have no idea why I won Vermont by 2,000 votes....Montana was tied 49.3%-49.3%. I won by freaking 22 votes. One third of the Libertarian vote came from Georgia, where they got 3.3%. Obama won NY by 0.4%.

I blame the loss on my primary battle with Romney, which went on until the end. I did not clinch the nomination until NM and SD...

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2008

Senator Barack Obama (D-IL)/Senator Claire McCaskill-427 EV, 54.5% of the PV.
Senator Sam Brownback (R-KS)/Governor Charlie Crist (R-FL)-111 EV, 44.4% of the PV.
Mr. Chuck Baldwin (C-FL)/Mr. Darrell Castle (C-TE)-0.8% of the PV.
Mr. Wayne Allyn Root (L-NV)/Former Congressman Bob Barr (L-GA)-0.2% of the PV.

I..I....I have no idea why I won Vermont by 2,000 votes....Montana was tied 49.3%-49.3%. I won by freaking 22 votes. One third of the Libertarian vote came from Georgia, where they got 3.3%. Obama won NY by 0.4%.

I blame the loss on my primary battle with Romney, which went on until the end. I did not clinch the nomination until NM and SD...

how close were the primaries?

If Romney won just one of the final two primaries (around 20 delegates), he would have won the nomination.

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1972

President Richard Nixon (R-CA)/Vice President Spiro Agnew (R-MD)-538 EV, 76.3% of the popular vote (59,300,195).
Senator George McGovern (D-SD)/Senator Henry Jackson (D-WA)-21.1% of the popular vote (16,361,414).
Congressman John Schmitz (AIP-CA)/Congressman John Ashbrook (AIP-OH)-2.6% of the popular vote (2,045,181).

I played Schmitz. He has a lot of advantages-Ashbrook's endorsement, plus the John Birch Society, the National Review, and the American Conservative Union are easy to get support from. I also tried to get Wallace's support, and almost had it, but I waited one turn too many to try again, and he withdrew from the race. As Schmitz, I came in second (with 18%) in Utah, and broke 10% in Alaska and Idaho. Montana, and Louisiana gave me about 8%. I averaged 5% in the rest of the western states, and 2% in all the other ones. I was not on the ballot in many states.

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1960

Vice President Richard Nixon (R-CA)/Senator Prescott Bush (R-CT)-457 EV, 55.8% of the popular vote.
Senator John Kennedy (D-MA)/Governor Abraham Ribicoff (D-CT)-80 EV, 43.4% of the popular vote.
Senator Harry F. Byrd (SR-VA)/Senator Strom Thurmond (SR-SC)-0.8% of the popular vote.

The closest state was MS, with Kennedy winning by a margin about 2,000 votes with Byrd, Kennedy, and Nixon all at one time holding a lead at one point in time. I held off Rockefeller in the primaries by using a power 9 scandal, and went on to knock him out early. Johnson held out to the DNC, though Kennedy won easily on the second ballot. I had a good lead from the beginning heading into the general election.

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2008

Former Vice President Al Gore (D-TE)/Senator Russ Feingold (D-WI)-341 EV, 56.1% of the popular vote.
Senator John McCain (R-AZ)/Former Governor Mike Huckabee (R-AR)-42.9% of the popular vote.
Mr. Ralph Nader (G-CT)/Mrs. Kat Swift (G-TX)-0.7% of the popular vote.
Mrs. Mary Ruwart (L-TX)/Mr. Lance Brown (L-FL)-0.2% of the popular vote.

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2012-The Return of Rudy.

President Barack Obama (D-IL)/Secretary of State Hillary Clinton (D-NY)-279 EV, 51.91% of the popular vote.
Former Mayor Rudy Giuliani (R-NY)/Senator Marco Rubio (R-FL)-259 EV, 46.95% of the popular vote.
Fmr. Governor Gary Johnson (L-NM)/Mr. Lance Brown (L-CA)-0.95% of the popular vote.
Mrs. Jill Stein (G-MA)/Mr. Kent Mesplay (G-CA)-0.10% of the popular vote.
Former Congressman Virgil Goode (C-VA)/Mr. Chuck Baldwin (C-MT)-0.09% of the popular vote.

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2008

Senator Hillary Clinton (D-NY)/Senator Evan Bayh (D-IN)-410 EV, 53.8% of the popular vote.
Former Mayor Rudy Giuliani (R-NY)/Governor Mark Sanford (R-SC)-128 EV, 41.8% of the popular vote.
Mr. Chuck Baldwin (C-FL)/Mr. Darrell Castle (C-TE)-3.6% of the popular vote.
Mrs. Mary Ruwart (L-TX)/Mr. Wayne Root (L-NV)-0.8% of the popular vote.

Played Hilldawg through the primaries, crushed everyone by April. The results are pretty strange, seeing as the polls were tight until the last few weeks.

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2008

Senator Hillary Clinton (D-NY)/Senator Evan Bayh (D-IN)-410 EV, 53.8% of the popular vote.
Former Mayor Rudy Giuliani (R-NY)/Governor Mark Sanford (R-SC)-128 EV, 41.8% of the popular vote.
Mr. Chuck Baldwin (C-FL)/Mr. Darrell Castle (C-TE)-3.6% of the popular vote.
Mrs. Mary Ruwart (L-TX)/Mr. Wayne Root (L-NV)-0.8% of the popular vote.

Played Hilldawg through the primaries, crushed everyone by April. The results are pretty strange, seeing as the polls were tight until the last few weeks.

How do you win Utah and Wyoming and loose Colorado by a strong margin?

Your guess is as good as mine .

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2012

Former Governor Mitt Romney (R-MA)/Governor Susana Martinez (R-NM)-292 EV, 47.7% of the popular vote.
President Hillary Clinton (D-NY)/Secretary of State Joe Biden (D-DE)-246 EV, 50.6% of the popular vote.
Mr. Chuck Baldwin (C-MT)/Mr. Darrell Castle (C-TE)-1.2% of the popular vote.
Mr. Wayne Root (L-NV)/Mr. Lance Brown (L-CA)-0.6% of the popular vote.

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2000

Senator John McCain (R-AZ)/ Professor Condoleezza Rice (R-AL)-425 EV, 53.6% of the popular vote.
Vice President Al Gore (D-TE)/Governor Jeanne Shaheen (D-NH)-113 EV, 40.0% of the popular vote.
Mr. Ralph Nader (G-CT)/Mrs. Winona LaDuke (G-MN)-4.2% of the popular vote.
Mr. Pat Buchanan (RF-DC)/Congressman Virgil Goode (RF-VA)-2.3% of the popular vote.

And I thought I was lucky to have won Iowa over Bush at the start .

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Running mates were Jeb Bush (R) and Bob Graham (D). This was the 2004 President McCain scenario.

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1992

Senator Bob Kerrey (D-NE)/Senator Al Gore (D-TE)-381 EV, 40.8% of the popular vote.
President George Bush (R-TX)/Fmr. Secretary of State Al Haig (R-PA)-140 EV, 34.5% of the popular vote.
Ross Perot (I-TX)/Admiral James Stockdale (I-IL)-17 EV, 24.8% of the popular vote.

I was surprised with my win in SC, and almost won Alabama as well.

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What moron put John McCain as a possible running mate for Perot?  They have pretty much completely opposite ideologies and what's more hate each other (because of the Vietnam POW issue).

The list for Perot running mates is pretty damn ridiculous, I agree, just decided McCain would be a fun one.

I created the scenario, and the list is based off advice from the creator of the timeline it's based on, MaskedPickle on the Alternate History forums. The whole Freedom Party is not very realistic at all, but it's quite fun.

Yeah, I thought the Freedom Party was a hodgepodge of political outcasts. I can't see Ron Paul, Bernie Sanders, Donald Trump, and Tim Penny all in one party.

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1996

Governor William Weld (R-MA)/Senator John McCain (R-AZ)-332 EV, 48.8% of the popular vote.
President Bob Kerrey (D-NE)/Vice President Al Gore (D-TE)-206 EV, 41.4% of the popular vote.
Mr. Donald Trump (RF-NY)/Mr. Pat Choate (RF-DC)-6.1% of the popular vote.
Mrs. Diane Beall Templin (C-CA)/Mr. Howard Phillips (C-VA)-1.3% of the popular vote.
Mr. Ralph Nader (G-CT)/Mrs. Winona LaDuke (G-MN)-1.3% of the popular vote.
Mr. Harry Browne (L-TE)/Mrs. Jo Jorgensen (L-SC)-1.1% of the popular vote.

Yeah, I did not run a good campaign this time .

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Did you edit Mathias in yourself or did he come with the scenario you are playing?

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...I don't know what happened, but somehow I ended up running against every single Republican candidate for Governor of PA.

The State Convention must have been set for the wrong year. The primary just never ended. You can fix that in the candidate editor.

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If I made a 2004 scenario would you all play it?

Sure, the current 2004 scenario is almost impossible to win.

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Where are you guys getting this 2016 scenario (or is it for P4E 2012?).

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Former Governor Howard Dean (D-VT)/Former Secretary of State Collin Powell (I-NY): 434 Electoral Votes, 55.60% of the popular vote.
President George W. Bush (R-TX)/Former Mayor Rudy Giuliani (R-NY): 104 Electoral Votes, 40.00% of the popular vote.
Mr. Ralph Nader (I-CT)/Mr. Peter Camejo (I-CA): 2.10% of the popular vote.
Mr. Michael Peroutka (C-MD)/Mr. Chuck Baldwin (C-FL): 1.20% of the popular vote.
Mr. Michael Badnarik (L-TX)/Mr. Lance Brown (L-CA): 1.10% of the popular vote.

I started off as Colin Powell in the Republican primaries. Despite the usual low polling, I followed the strategy outlined for Jon Huntsman in an earlier thread here and used it to win Iowa, New Hampshire, and South Carolina. I at one point had double Bush’s delegates, but Bush pulled a scandal on me and took Illinois (where my twenty point lead deteriorated over two weeks), shattering my strong momentum. I struggled on, and as the later primaries came around, I lost all remaining momentum and Bush reclaimed the nomination. After two to three weeks of constant requests to be Dean’s running mate, I finally was accepted on to the ticket. During this time I dumped my remaining scandals and ran nationwide ads, and when I finally joined the ticket with Dean, his polls went from down ten points to leading by ten points.

On the Democratic side, Lieberman of all people was leading and won most of the primaries, with Edwards and Dean fighting for second. Weeks before the DNC, Edwards dropped out and endorsed Dean, putting him over the top. Lieberman dropped out and endorsed Dean just before I joined the ticket.

I won most states by ~15%, and most of Bush’s states were close. Bush won Oklahoma and Alabama by margins of 0.1%, and Utah and Colorado were won by 6%. I expected a higher performance from the third party candidates after I unleashed a strong ad attacking Bush on Iraq and a medium scandal. On the whole, the Libertarians and Constitutionalists didn’t break higher than 2% in any states, though Nader won 5.2% in California and averaged 2-3% everywhere else.

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Former Governor Mike Huckabee (R-AR)/Senator Rob Portman (R-OH): 285 Electoral Votes, 47.9% of the popular vote.
President Barack Obama (D-IL)/Secretary of State Hillary Clinton (D-NY): 253 Electoral Votes, 50.2% of the popular vote.
Mr. Wayne Allan Root (L-NV)/Mr. R. Lee Wrights (L-TX): 1.60% of the popular vote.
Mrs. Jill Stein (G-MA)/Mr. Kent Mesplay (G-CA): 0.10% of the popular vote.
Former Congressman Virgil Goode (C-VA)/Mr. Jim Clymer (C-PA): 0.10% of the popular vote.

Fun game this was. Started out as Huckabee in the NV Gonzalez 2012 scenario and built a massive lead up in Iowa and South Carolina, and preceded to completely clear the field out by March. I also was able to get a few high profile scandals that I released fairly frequently and quickly built my pre-convention funds to massive levels, which allowed me to run negative ads. I still trailed Obama throughout the race, though in October I was able to force ties in Colorado, Florida, North Carolina, Virginia, and Wisconsin. For whatever reason, Ohio was never close and I maintained a ten point lead.

The closest state was by far New Hampshire, which Obama won by 950 votes. Despite Johnson losing the Libertarian nomination, Wayne Allan Root performed well in most states, breaking over 1% in every state and taking 5% in New Hampshire (which is why Obama probably won it, despite my lead).

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Can someone tell me how to post the maps?

You use the Electoral Vote Calculator, and when you are finished, you press "Show Map Link." You copy and paste whatever is in the box, and post it on the forum where it will show up as a map. I hope this helps .

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1968

President Lyndon Johnson (D-TX)/Vice President Hubert Humphrey (D-MN): 457 Electoral Votes, 48.6% of the popular vote.
Governor George Romney (R-MI)/Governor Ronald Reagan (R-CA): 36 Electoral Votes, 33.9% of the popular vote.
Former Governor George Wallace (AIP-AL)/Governor Happy Chandler (AIP-KY): 45 Electoral Votes, 14.4% of the popular vote.
Mr. Carl Oglesby (PF-MI)/Mr. Benjamin Spock (PF-CT): 3.1% of the popular vote.

Lots of close states….
New Mexico: 56 vote difference.
North Dakota: 60 vote difference.
Wyoming: 92 vote difference.

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2000

Senator Bill Bradley (D-NJ)/Governor Jeanne Shaheen (D-NH): 428 Electoral Votes, 53.8% of the popular vote.
Governor George Bush (R-TX)/Former Governor Lamar Alexander (R-TN): 110 Electoral Votes, 41.1% of the popular vote.
Mr. Ralph Nader (G-CT)/Mrs. Winona LaDuke (G-MN): 3.2% of the popular vote.
Mr. Pat Buchanan (RF-DC)/Congressman Virgil Goode (RF-VA): 2.0% of the popular vote.

Curbstomped Gore in the primaries, and somehow managed to beat Bush in a huge landslide. I don’t understand Utah or Texas, or how Buchanan got 13% in Vermont.