President Forever results thread...

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I've noticed in the 2012 scenario NV is made too democratic.

Is this the scenario I made?

The Scenario theory spark released. Also Obama seems to have 0% chance of beating Hillary when she is turned on. It is waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay to easy to win as her.

That, and Obama faces some pretty severe headwinds from "Poor Economic Indicators" the ENTIRE game.

Good to know that my scenario easily defeats the scenario that the actual game developers actually released

Though yes such a horrible scenario.. I played and I was amazed at how horrible it was.

I love your scenario

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Using the March 2007 edition....
EDIT: Image removed, since Tinypic reuses URLs. This one was reused for a rather bizzare picture.

Total results are displayed. Johnson got 8% in Alabama, otherwise, he averaged around 1-4%. It was Locke/Clark vs Romney/Cheney. I was Locke, who I made this afternoon. I started with a strategy of winning NH, NV, Georgia, and Delaware. I expanded into Iowa in August, which I won. I won NH with 45% of the vote, and NV with 50% of the vote. Obama got knocked down quickly, and endorsed me after Super Tuesday. Richardson and Edwards won alot of states, and Biden built up a small mass of delagates, but my real battle was with Hillary. It went to the convention, which I won by 1000 delagates after Richardson and Edwards endorsed me. Romney had no competition it seemed, but then again, I put Hagel, Frist, Allen, Pataki, and Gingrich on as well, so votes were split.

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For whatever its worth, does anyone know where I can more scenarios? I checked theory spark, and their forum, but every single scenario availiable is impossible to attain.

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For whatever its worth, does anyone know where I can more scenarios? I checked theory spark, and their forum, but every single scenario availiable is impossible to attain.

Which scenarios are you looking for? Any in particular?

The President Gore in 2004 looked good, as well as the alternate 2000 with all the third party candidates. And the 2012 free-for-all

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The President Gore in 2004 looked good, as well as the alternate 2000 with all the third party candidates. And the 2012 free-for-all

That would not happen to be "Wacked Edition" would it?

It might be.

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It is friggan impossible to win as Feingold, it took several tries just to get him through the primaries. After I finally won the nomination with him, this happened.

Romney/Jindal vs Feingold/Warner

What year was this?

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2008 wonk edition

Thanks Im trying to find a mod for 2008 similar to the February 2007 start with more candidates.

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2008 wonk edition

Is it the copy with the events in it like Jefferson-Jackson and the Obama "clings to guns" thing?

I don't recall, its the one that came with it as the better 08 version.

I've won as Pat fricken Buchanan before (primaried Bush), I've played as Badnarick  in 04 and have made it a legit 3 way, I've even made Jim Traficant go as far as 2nd place in the 88 Dem Primary, but Feingold I just can't seem to win it .

I have made Trafficant as the Democratic nominee, brought up Lane Kirkland to 2nd, had Cindy Sheehan get 5% in the general election, but, like reality, Ron Paul or Sam Browback cant win.

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2008

Senator John McCain (R-AZ)/Governor Haley Barbour (R-MS)-355 EV, 50.9% of the popular vote.
Senator Barack Obama (D-IL)/Senator Jack Reed (D-RI)-183 EV, 43.0% of the popular vote.
Mr. Steve Kubby (L-CA)/Mr. Daniel Williams (L-FL)-5.1% of the popular vote.
Mr. Ralph Nader (I-CT)/Mr. Matt Gonzalez (I-CA)-0.6% of the popular vote.
Mr. Chuck Baldwin (C-FL)/Mr. Brian Rohrbough (C-CO)-0.2% of the popular vote.
Former Congresswoman Cynthia McKinney (G-GA)/Mr. Howie Hawkins (G-NY)-0.2% of the popular vote.
I was Kubby.

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I narrowly lost the 1976 DNC as Ellen McCormack to Mo Udall. With Carter turned off, the South shifts towards Wallace, who endorsed me right before the DNC. I won NY, Minnesota, Alaska, Indiana, South Carolina, Mississipi, and Washington. I won large chunks of delegates from just about every state.

I had planned on running McCormack with someone like Wallace, or Byrd against Ford and McCarthy. Ironically enough, I added McCormack as a McCarthy veep a few months earlier, and while I continued as Udall for a few turns, I noticed McCormack did run as McCarthys veep.

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President Forever, 1940 Scenario
Democratic Primaries

Before Convention
Ambassador Joseph Kennedy of Massachusetts-241 Delegates
Secretary of State Cordell Hull of Tennessee-212 Delegates
Secretary of the Interior Harold Ickes of Illinois-166 Delegates
Solicitor General Robert Jackson of New York-125 Delegates
Secretary of Agriculture Henry Wallace of Iowa-119 Delegates
Vice President John Garner of Texas-117 Delegates
Postmaster General James Farley of New York-101 Delegates

Soon after the primaries ended, Jackson endorsed Hull.
Secretary of State Cordell Hull of Tennessee-337 Delegates (+125)
Ambassador Joseph Kennedy of Massachusetts-241 Delegates
Secretary of the Interior Harold Ickes of Illinois-166 Delegates
Solicitor General Robert Jackson of New York-125 Delegates (-125)
Secretary of Agriculture Henry Wallace of Iowa-119 Delegates
Vice President John Garner of Texas-117 Delegates
Postmaster General James Farley of New York-101 Delegates

And woop-woop-di-do, right before the most exciting convention I have ever played, BAM, game crashes, and the save is corrupted.

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yup onetime i was playing the modded 1984 race i was walter mondale and i was winning by a landslide attacking jesse helms, and out of nowhere Jesse Helms won Hawaii by 9 points

I can't seem to find the 1984 mod with Helms. Do you know where I can get it?

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I turned Romney off and Christie on in the 2012 scenario (the one with Roemer, Palin, and Johnson) and played Huntsman. Cain won Iowa, Christie won NH (I placed second), Cain won SC, Christie won Florida and so forth. It was a Cain-Christie race up until the Mississipi primary. Then Gingrich surged, and Perry endorsed me. It became a three way race up until Newt suddenly dropped out and endorsed Cain. Then, the next turn, Christie dropped out and endorsed me. I won NY, PA, CT, and RI on momentum. I now lead Cain 818-725. More to come....

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A Giant Sucking Sound-Alternate 1996

General Norman Schwarzkoph (R-NJ)-599 Delegates
Governor Pete Wilson (R-CA)-573 Delegates
Governor Carroll Campbell (R-SC)-531 Delegates
Former Education Secretary Lamar Alexander (R-TE)-342 Delegates
Senator Phil Gramm (R-TX)-191 Delegates

Lets see how this convention plays out...

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A Giant Sucking Sound-Alternate 1996

General Norman Schwarzkoph (R-NJ)-599 Delegates
Governor Pete Wilson (R-CA)-573 Delegates
Governor Carroll Campbell (R-SC)-531 Delegates
Former Education Secretary Lamar Alexander (R-TE)-342 Delegates
Senator Phil Gramm (R-TX)-191 Delegates

Lets see how this convention plays out...

1st ballot.
General Norman Schwarzkoph (R-NJ)-599 Delegates (+264)
Governor Pete Wilson (R-CA)-573 Delegates (+211)
Governor Carroll Campbell (R-SC)-531 Delegates
Former Education Secretary Lamar Alexander (R-TE)-342 Delegates
Senator Phil Gramm (R-TX)-191 Delegates
Governor Campbell drops out, after losing his upper tier status in the final days.

2nd ballot.
General Norman Schwarzkoph (R-NJ)-599 Delegates (+264) (+83)
Governor Pete Wilson (R-CA)-573 Delegates (+211) (+56)
Former Education Secretary Lamar Alexander (R-TE)-342 Delegates
Senator Phil Gramm (R-TX)-191 Delegates

3rd ballot.
General Norman Schwarzkoph (R-NJ)-599 Delegates (+264) (+83) (+145)
Governor Pete Wilson (R-CA)-573 Delegates (+211) (+56) (+158)
Former Education Secretary Lamar Alexander (R-TE)-342 Delegates

Schwarzkoph wins 998 to 938.

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This was a good one. I turned Cuomo, Kennedy, and Bentsen on for the Democratic nomination. I played DuPont in the 1988 primaries. I was able to win the RNC when Robertson endorsed me. I was unprepared for Bentsen, however. I was expecting the Kennedy delegates at the RNC to break for Jackson. They did not. So all my anti Jackson ads and scandals became useless. Great game

Senator Lloyd Bentsen (D-TX)/Governor Michael Dukakis (D-MA)-294 EV, 45.8% of the popular vote.
Former Governor Pete DuPont (R-DE)/Congressman Jack Kemp (R-NY)-244 EV, 44.9% of the popular vote.
Former Congressman Ron Paul (L-TX)/Mr. Russell Means (L-CA)-4.7% of the popular vote.
Mrs. Leonora Fulani (NA-DC)/Mr. Fred Newman (NA-NY)-4.6% of the popular vote.

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1976

President Gerald Ford (R-MI)/Senator Robert Dole (R-KS)-362 EV, 48.7% of the population.
Former Governor James Carter (D-GA)/Senator Jennings Randolph (D-WV)-177 EV, 46.2% of the popular vote.
Former Senator Eugene McCarthy (I-MN)/Various-5.0% of the popular vote.

Ford Best States
Alaska: 61.4%
Wyoming: 60.1%
Kansas: 59.8%
Indiana: 59.4%
Wisconsin: 57.7%

Carter Best States
Arkansas: 61.9%
Washington DC: 59.6%
Minnesota: 57.8%
Louisiana: 56.1%
Hawaii: 53.7%

McCarthy Best States
Oregon: 26.7%
Utah: 17.2%
Alabama: 16.5%
Maine: 16.0%
Montana: 15.2%

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Gerald Ford: 1976

President Gerald Ford (R-MI)/Senator Robert Dole (R-KS)-527 EV, 59.5% of the popular vote.
Former Governor Jimmy Carter (D-GA)/Senator Robert Byrd (D-WV)-12 EV, 37.2% of the popular vote.
Former Senator Eugene McCarthy (I-MN)/Multiple Runningmates-3.2% of the popular vote.

I was lucky to get a good deal of momentum in the primaries, as well as getting (for a hefty price) Mo Udalls endorsement. Reagan was never a real threat, though he did come 0.1% away from winning New Hampshire. I used ads to blast Carter on all sorts of issues, and had a powerful level 9 scandal in the last week come out on him. I lost the first two debates, and tied on the final one. Dole beat Byrd in a very close, unremarkable debate. 

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Gerald Ford: 1980

President Gerald Ford (R-MI)/Ambassador George Bush (R-TX)-523 EV, 60.7% of the popular vote.
Former Governor Jimmy Carter (D-GA)/Congresswoman Barbara Jordan (D-TX)-15 EV, 39.3% of the popular vote.

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Gerald Ford: 1984

President Gerald Ford (R-MI)/Vice President George Bush (R-TX)-535 EV, 65.3% of the popular vote.
Senator Walter Mondale (R-MN)/Former Senator George McGovern (D-SD)-3 EV, 34.7% of the popular vote.

And so ends the Ford trilogy. His three terms were marked by landslide victories. Now off to Bush in 1988 I plan on playing up until 2012.

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2012

Former Governor Mitt Romney (R-MA)/Congressman Paul Ryan (R-WI)-289 EV, 49.7%-64,194,084 votes.
President Barack Obama (D-IL)/Vice President Joe Biden (D-DE)-249 EV, 49.1%-63,500,313 votes.
Former Governor Gary Johnson (L-NM)/Former Judge Jim Gray (L-CA)-0.8%-1,067,079 votes.
Former Congressman Virgil Goode (C-VA)/Mr. Jim Clymer (C-PA)-0.2%-276,667 votes.
Mrs. Jill Stein (G-MA)/Mrs. Cheri Honkala (G-PA)-0.2%-242,753 votes.

I started as Romney in the general. I focused on the swing states, and made my two non Romney leadership themes attacking Obama on the economy, and one praising myself on the issue of the size of government. I focused on Colorado, Ohio (which I won immediately when it was first reporting, 58-42. It later turned out to be 54-46) and New Hampshire. Florida, Virginia, Nevada, Wisconsin, and North Carolina were also heavily targeted. I spent a ton on ads in the last weeks, and despite being hit by power 9 scandals three times midway through the campaign, I was able to eek out a narrow win when Florida and Missouri were called. Wisconsin was the closest state, with a difference of 32,000 votes.

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Just got P4E 2008, here is my first game:

Ran as Al Gore in the 2008 scenario that comes with the game. Started in the primaries with all characters on for both major parties and 3rd parties off. Was leading in Iowa till the last minute when Mark Warner surged there. He won and I came in 2nd. Warner also won NH. Most of the other candidates dropped out soon after, setting up me vs Hillary with Warner a distant 3rd. I won most of the South and West, Hillary took most of the NE and Midwest. The primary dragged on a long time with Hillary leading but nobody getting a majority By the time the primaries were almost done the delegate count was something like this:

Clinton 1400
Gore 1100
Warner 500

I used all my political influence points to get Warner to drop out and endorse me, which gave me a majority. Offered Hillary my VP and she accepted.

Romney had won the GOP primary pretty early and had been running a GE campaign since then. By the time I won the primary things were not looking good for Team D.

Romney/Pataki 47%
Gore/Clinton 40%

Throughout GE, I focused on running positive ads about homeland security, which I had gotten a couple of issue bonuses on and researched some insights into. I had a bit more momentum than Romney the whole campaign so I closed on him slowly and then narrowly overtook him in the last two weeks. By election day it was still very close and the game had over 100 EVs as tossups but Gore in a narrow lead.

Final results:
Gore/Clinton 50.4%, 290 EVs
Romney/Pataki 49.6%, 248 EVs

Not bad for a first time (on Hard difficulty, no less)

Awesome! I always play on easy, and still lose landslides You just inspired me to play as Gore for the first time in 2008, on the other hand...

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2016

President Mitt Romney (R-MA)/Vice President Paul Ryan (R-WI)-360 EV, 51.7%-65,994,161 votes.
Former Governor Deval Patrick (D-MA)/Former Secretary Janet Napolitano (D-AZ)-178 EV, 46.2%-59,047,196 votes.
Mr. Wayne Root (L-NV)/Mr. R. Lee Wrights (L-NC)-1.5%-1,863,252 votes.
Mr. Chuck Baldwin (C-MT)/Mrs. Susan Ducey (C-KA)-0.6%-796,649 votes.

Rhode Island was decided by 2%. The DNC was interesting. Hillary didn't win a single delegate to Super Tuesday, and soon after, Feingold endorsed Patrick sending him to the top. I thought Manchin delegates (about 1,100 of them) would go to Hillary, but they split nearly 50-50, and gave the nomination to Patrick by a few delegates. Patrick had $30,000,000 in the bank on election day. I had $600,000,000 and a power 9 scandal on Patrick the week before .

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2020

Senator Marco Rubio (R-FL)/Former Governor Sean Parnell (R-AK)-301 EV, 42.7%-63,294,135 votes.
Governor Julian Castro (D-TX)/Senator Kirsten Gillibrand (D-NY)-237 EV, 42.5%-63,119,006 votes.
Former Mayor Mike Bloomberg (I-NY)/Senator Angus King (I-ME)-14.8%-21,977,692 votes.

I started as Ryan, though I lost the primaries to Rubio after a series of surprise wins on Super Tuesday. Castro led through the race up until the last weeks, and Bloomberg seemed to be irrelevant. However, I pulled off a narrow win due to Bloomberg splitting votes with Castro. I came in third in DC, with 6.6% of the vote to Bloomberg's 13.5%, and came 3 points away from being third in New York. Iowa was the only surprise, and was the closest state. Castro led through the night in Iowa, and only minutes before the election night ended, I won the state by a margin of 3,000 votes, or 0.2%.

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1992

House Majority Leader Dick Gephardt (D-MO)/Senator Al Gore (D-TN)-331 EV, 38.5% of the popular vote.
President George Bush (R-TX)/Fmr. Secretary of State Al Haig (R-PA)-182 EV, 36.6% of the popular vote.
Mr. Ross Perot (I-TX)/Admiral James Stockdale (I-CA)-25 EV, 24.9% of the popular vote.

This game was very interesting. I was Gephardt, and easily won the nomination over Cuomo and Clinton (with Harkin turned off and Rockefeller also turned on) after a series of early primary wins. I had little opposition besides Cuomo, who won some big parties and could have waged an insurgency campaign against me, had I not convinced him to drop out. I got the nomination by May, and built up foot soldiers around the country. My themes were positive, with leadership, economy, and free trade being the focus. I lost all three debates, but Perot gave Bush enough of a challenge to make it look better for me. Oregon was by far the closest state, with Perot winning by 215 votes out of 1,336,827 cast.