President Forever results thread...

[Lahbas]

Played the 1968 Scenario as Eugene McCarthy. After a nailbitter primary battle with Humphrey (it was down to about a 60 delegate difference), I won, but at the cost of about half the Democratic party base, most of which went to Wallace. Nixon was ahead of me by about 15 points entering the general election, but attacking his integrity, along with a massive ad campaign following cash infusions, allowed for me to come back, and then surpass Nixon in the polls. By election day, I knew that I had the won, but I was hoping for a larger electoral success. I largely failed to achieve that, but I managed to capture all the toss-up states in which I was within 1st-2nd place.

Eugene McCarthy (D-MN)/George McGovern (D-SD) 39,424,780 46.8% / 368 Electoral
Richard Nixon (R-CA)/John Tower (R-TX) 29,226,711 34.7% / 79 Electoral
George Wallace (AI-AL)/James Rhodes (R-OH) 15,591,079 18.5% / 91 Electoral

[Lahbas]

I ran as Robert Byrd in the 1976 Scenario on Hard. Almost lost to Jimmy Carter during the Primaries, mostly because of what became insurgent campaigns by both Jerry Brown and Mo Udall. Somehow, Gerald Ford and Ronald Reagan made up sometime during the primaries and ran on a joined ticket, with Reagan as the VP. I would pick Senator Edward Kennedy, to shore up my base among the liberals, and also for his Charismatic ability. The debates were generally a draw, while Kennedy crushed Reagan. Polling showed that I was ahead 57-42, so I was darned sure there would be no hope of a Republican resurgance. The outcome of the final election map suprised me however.

Robert Byrd (D-WV)/Edward Kennedy (D-MA) 55,129,586 56.1% / 478 Electoral

Gerald Ford (R-MI)/Ronald Reagan (R-CA) 43,192,606 43.9% / 61 Electoral


Somehow, with negative momentum, Ford and Reagan made a come-back. It wasn't much, but it was enough to show me that the polling data was heavily schewed in my favor, and my campaigning methods may need to be reformed. Regardless, Byrd won in a landslide. This is actually probably one of the only President Forever games that I would like write a timeline upon, the other being my John Connally in 1980.

[Lahbas]

Ran as George McGovern in the 1984 scenario from the primaries. I left out Mondale and Hart to create an ahistorical race between McGovern, Jackson, Glen, and Hollings. McGovern easily won the nomination, largely following the endorsement of Jackson, which allowd him to soldify his base, while the party moderates were divided between Glenn and Hollings. I had wanted to pick Barbara Jordan, mainly because McGovern at this point would have to assume that he was going to lose. Why not pick an African American Women, picking up two historical event of note at once? However, Jordan was suffering from major health issues, and would very likely have declined if asked. McGovern himself would have had to realize that putting someone in the copilot's seat, someone who is very VERY ill, would not send a good message. Therefore, he probably would have settled on John Glenn, who was popular, well-known, and experianced.

The election went terribly. Despite McGovern's attempts at attacking Reagan, the odds against him were just to high. Reagan was popular due to a roaring economy, was much more charismatic, and had a massive war chest. McGovern was once again painted as the "Amnesty, Abortion, and Acid" canidate, and even though it did not have the same ring in it, it had the same effect within an America that was moving toward the right. George McGovern would be crushed in a landslide, while Ronald Reagan would achieve the largest popular vote victory since the "Era of Good Feelings"

Henceforth, all sacrificial canidates were titled "McGovern's Children"

Ronald Reagan (R-CA)/George H. W. Bush (R-TX) 51,063,247 61.7% / 499 Electoral
George McGovern (D-NY)/John Glenn (D-OH) 31,675,805 38.3% / 39 Electoral

I have to say, this seems like the exact outcome that would occur if they had really matched up this way in real life.

[Lahbas]

Spacebarred through the 2007 Lousiana Gubernatorial Scenario. It was really interesting, because it appeared that Jindal had it tied up. However come election day, Blanco managed to pull out an EXTREMELY narrow victory. By the game's standards, Jindal actually won, but electoral votes aren't used for gubernatorial elections.


Republican: Bobby Jindal 1,340,062 49% / 221 Electoral

Democratic: Kathleen Blanco 1,340,670 49.1% / 183 Electoral

Libertarian (me): Horn III 51,448 1.9%

[Lahbas]

When Donald Trump is in the running, he likes to use a LOT of adds with his millions. Not the best speaker by far, but he is able to reach many more people than he would otherwise. As a result, his canidacy pretty much messed up the map, since he appealed to just about everyone, causing victories for others that would probably never happen.

George W. Bush (R-TX)/John Danforth (R-MO) 38,507,912 36.5% / 267 Electoral
Al Gore (D-TN)/Bill Richardson (D-NM) 36,767,256 34.8% / 216 Electoral
Donald Trump (R-NY)/David Boren (R-OK) 30,261,689 28.7% / 55 Electoral

[Lahbas]

When Donald Trump is in the running, he likes to use a LOT of adds with his millions. Not the best speaker by far, but he is able to reach many more people than he would otherwise. As a result, his canidacy pretty much messed up the map, since he appealed to just about everyone, causing victories for others that would probably never happen.

George W. Bush (R-TX)/John Danforth (R-MO) 38,507,912 36.5% / 267 Electoral
Al Gore (D-TN)/Bill Richardson (D-NM) 36,767,256 34.8% / 216 Electoral
Donald Trump (R-NY)/David Boren (R-OK) 30,261,689 28.7% / 55 Electoral

Who won in the house?

Bush, though in this scenario it actually makes sense, as he had captured a majority of both the electoral and popular vote.

[Lahbas]

I actually managed to do it. Donald Trump is the new President of the United States!

Donald Trump (R-NY)/David Boren (R-OK) 37,322,032 35.4% / 303 Electoral
Al Gore (D-TN)/Joe Lieberman (D-CT) 38,435,589 36.4% / 210 Electoral
George W. Bush (R-TX)/Steve Forbes (R-NJ) 29,716,136 28.2% / 25 Electoral

Again, Al Gore lost the election while winning the popular vote. I might do a timeline on this, as I think a Donald Trump Presidency might be quite interesting.

[Lahbas]

When Donald Trump is in the running, he likes to use a LOT of adds with his millions. Not the best speaker by far, but he is able to reach many more people than he would otherwise. As a result, his canidacy pretty much messed up the map, since he appealed to just about everyone, causing victories for others that would probably never happen.

George W. Bush (R-TX)/John Danforth (R-MO) 38,507,912 36.5% / 267 Electoral
Al Gore (D-TN)/Bill Richardson (D-NM) 36,767,256 34.8% / 216 Electoral
Donald Trump (R-NY)/David Boren (R-OK) 30,261,689 28.7% / 55 Electoral

Who won in the house?

Bush, though in this scenario it actually makes sense, as he had captured a majority of both the electoral and popular vote.

He didn't get a majority of either.

Plurality

[Lahbas]

What's the scenario with Trump in it?

It's a modified 2000 scenario.

Oh, okay. Any chance someone could send it to me?

Don't have it, it's pretty much a Lahbas created scenario. Sorry though.

I'll send it if somebody can tell me how. When I try to find my custom made scenarios to attach for downloads or whatever, I can't find them.

[Lahbas]

Ran a custom made scenario in which the Democratic Party splits between supporters of Obama and Clinton after a nasty fight at the convention, in which Clinton is victorious. As a result of massive vote splitting, McCain is victorious in a massive landslide.

John McCain (R-AZ) / Sarah Palin (R-AK)   53,253,777   44.4% / 464 Electoral
Hillary Clinton (D-NY) / Evan Bayh (D-IN)   34,069,021   28.4% / 47 Electoral
Barack Obama (DR-IL) / Bill Richardson (DR-NM)   32,546,625   27.2% / 27 Electoral

What is interesting is the map where the Democratic vote is combined.

Light Colored States were within 4%

Democratic Ticket :   66,615,646   55.6% / 413 Electoral
John McCain (R-AZ) / Sarah Palin (R-AK)   53,253,777   44.4% / 125 Electoral

I was suprised simply because of how realistic this map came out, except for maybe Louisiana. West Virginia only stayed with the Republicans by about 6,500 votes, or half a percent.

[Lahbas]

A match-up in my new custom 2000 PF4+P scenario. Colin Powell gets drafted by the Republican Party after a deadlocked convention, choosing John McCain as his running mate. Everything else was the same. His massive popularity allows him to establish a massive lead by the time the general election starts, and despite attempts by the Gore campaign to tarnish his reputation, Powell wins in a landslide.

Light Colored States were within 2%

Colin Powell (R-NY) / John McCain (R-AZ)  57,446,781  52.5%  /  486 Electoral
Al Gore (D-TN) / Joe Lieberman (D-CT)  46,592,447  42.6%  /  52 Electoral
Others (Nader, Buchanan, Browne, Phillips, Hagelin)  5,457,817  4.9%

[Lahbas]

Duncan Hunter leads the Republican Party to victory and pushes Obama aside in one of the largest landslides in American History! Barack Obama goes back to his senate seat in shame.

(I honestly have NO idea what happened. I ran as Hunter, aiming to get him into position for a VP position. Both parties went to the convention, leading to about 45% of the US being undecided. I guess I kind of exploited it...............but that gives no excuse to the AI!)

Duncan Hunter (R-CA)/Charlie Christ (R-FL)          68,901,890     69.4% / 538 Electoral
Barack Obama (D-IL)/Tim Kaine (D-VA)          30,344,489     30.6% / 0 Electoral

[Lahbas]

Ventura/Barkley's not possible.

It is, electors in Minnesota just couldn't vote for them though (right?).

Exactly. Therefore, for all intents and purposes, it is impossible.

I just used Barkely so the home state bonus could allow ventura to win at least that one state narrowly

You could just give Ventura a larger home state bonus for himself.

One of them could change residence. Same thing happened with Cheney and Bush in 2000, since they were both legally residents of Texas. Cheney changed his residence to Wyoming, where he had been a Representative, so it would not become a problem

[Lahbas]

Jerry Brown for President

The Primaries

I decided to run in the 1992 scenario as John Brown, the weakest candidate of them all (including Harkin, who I have won as easily twice). The major concern that was dealt with was the camapign organisation, taking over 15 weeks to upgrade. Since funds were also scarce, and there were no crusaders, Brown himself has to campaign in various states, depending on footsoldiers to work for him in areas he could not reach. In the end, it proved to be a slugfest between Clinton and Brown, each having upset the other in certain primaries. However, Clinton at the close of the North Dakota primary maintained a narrow lead in the delegate count..........

Bill Clinton - 1203 delegates
Jerry Brown - 1038 delegates
Paul Tsongas - 672 delegates
Bob Kerrey - 494 delegates

Lost at the Convention overwhelmingly. Here are the numbers.......

Bill Clinton - 2217 delegates
Jerry Brown - 1190 delegates

Apparently the character is too polorizing. He choose me for Vice President though......

[Lahbas]

John Brown?

Thanks for pointing that out.

[Lahbas]

1992

Mario Cuomo (D-NY)/Lee Hamilton (D-IN)     47,717,328  /  486 Electoral
George H. W. Bush (R-TX)/Jack Kemp (R-NY)     36,062,550  /  35 Electoral
Ross Perot (I-TX)/James Stockdale (I-CA)     26,316,986  /  17 Electoral

[Lahbas]

First test run of my "1980 - Wacked Edition" without Koch from primaries.

Ronald Reagan (R-CA)/George H. W. Bush (R-TX)     36,943,831  43.9%  /  369 Electoral
Jimmy Carter  (D-GA)/Walter Mondale (D-MN)     32,461,298  38.6%  /  158 Electoral
John Anderson (I-IL)/Patrick Lucey (I-WS)     14,722,551  17.5%  /  11 Electoral

[Lahbas]

2008.............................GINGRICH'S AMERICA

Light-Colored states are within 3% of the two contendors

Newt Gingrich (R-GA)/Mitt Romney (R-MA)     75,372,548  58.4% / 468 Electoral
Hillary Clinton (D-NY)/Claire McCaskilll (D-MO)     53,647,745  41.6% / 70 Electoral

[Lahbas]

2008 - One of the closest election campaigns I have ever run. Me and Hillary were never apart by more than 0.5% in the national polls.......ever. The status quo was eventually broken, but it was a nail-biter until Ohio was called.

All Light - Colored states are within 3% of the runnerup. A change of about 50,000 votes in Colorado, New Mexico, and Nevada would have given Hillary the election.

Mike Huckabee (R-AK)/Mitt Romney (R-MA)     66,165,192  51.3% / 287 Electoral
Hillary Clinton (D-NY)/Brian Schweitzer (D-MT)     62,855,101  48.7% / 251 Electoral

[Lahbas]

2008

Light - Colored States are within 3% of the runnerup

Fred Thompson (R-TN)/Mitt Romney (R-MA)     71,285,786  55.4% / 343 Electoral
Barack Obama (D-IL)/Chuck Hagel (R-NE)     57,318,167  44.6% / 195 Electoral

[Lahbas]

2004

Light Colored States are within 10% of the runner-up

George W. Bush (R-TX)/Dick Cheney (R-WY)     71,463,538  74.3% / 538 Electoral
John Kerry (D-MA)/Bill Richardson (D-NM)     24,739,598  25.7% / 0 Electoral

[Lahbas]

If you play the 2004 scenario starting from the primaries, its ridiculously broken. Every state will turn Republican solid for Bush before the general election even starts.

Yeah, that is true. When you play as the Democrats, the only real chance at managing a win is to become the frontrunner early, and overwhelmingly.

[Lahbas]

1976 : McCarthy

Gerald Ford (R-MI)/Richard Schwiecker (R-PA)     42,045,125  42.3% / 456 Electoral
Jimmy Carter (D-GA)/Sargent Shriver (D-VT)     35,407,857  35.6% / 70 Electoral
Eugene McCarthy (I-MN)/None     21,878,671  22% / 13 Electoral

[Lahbas]

Best Result I have ever got as a Republican in 1936

Franklin Roosevelt (D-NY)/Ellison Smith (D-SC)   12,747,397  48.4%  /  314 Electoral
Alf Landon (R-KS)/Frank Knox (R-IL)   12,560,359  47.7%  /  217 Electoral