President Forever results thread...

[Associate Justice PiT]

     I've done that in the past. As I recall, I won the entire South + Indiana. I'll try it again sometime.

[Associate Justice PiT]

     Did 1968 as Wallace. I had a hard time gaining traction. Once I did though, the states went like ducks in a row. I won every state I seriously campaigned in except TX & WV. Also, I have no explanation for MT or UT.

Humphrey/Muskie, 38%, 252 EVs
Nixon/Agnew, 38%, 163 EVs
Wallace/Lemay, 22%, 124 EVs
Decker/Munn, 0%, 0 EVs

     Unsurprisingly, Congress elected Humphrey president. For the record, Nixon won the PV by about 400,000 votes.

[Associate Justice PiT]

     PBrunsel would be proud. Hoover starts out very weakly in this scenario, but ads are cheap, so it doesn't matter much. I also got about five scandals on Roosevelt, including two right before election day.

Hoover/Curtis, 52%, 434 EVs
Roosevelt/Garner, 38%, 98 EVs
Thomas/Maurer, 6%, 0 EVs
Foster/????, 2%, 0 EVs

[Associate Justice PiT]

     They don't have a scenario for 1936 on their site. If anybody has made one, could they please send it to me?

[Associate Justice PiT]

     I ran 1876 as Hayes. Faced a bunch of scandals early on, but I recovered & rocked Tilden with several scandals on the home stretch. I managed to win TN, VA, & WV, but lose SC.

     Another thing is that it was not a close election. There were a few battlegrounds decided by 1-2%, but aside from them, almost nothing was within 10%.

Hayes/Wheeler, 52%, 215 EVs
Tilden/Hendricks, 44%, 154 EVs
Cooper/Cary, 3%, 0 EVs
Smith/Stewart, 0%, 0 EVs

[Associate Justice PiT]

     I played 1960 as Nixon. He starts out very strongly in this scenario, but even taking that into account, I greatly overperformed. I even won Kennedy's home state of Massachusetts!

     As a side note, I won Connecticut by just 326 votes!

Nixon/Lodge, 55%, 479 EVs
Kennedy/Johnson, 41%, 58 EVs
Decker/Munn, 1%, 0 EVs
Faubus/Crommelin, 1%, 0 EVs

[Associate Justice PiT]

     Ran in 1996 as Dole. Towards the end, I was hit by one medium-sized scandal & Clinton was hit by two smaller ones. I decided to put all my energy into spinning both Clinton scandals. Ended up working well to my favor.

Dole/Kemp, 46%, 300 EVs
Clinton/Gore, 40%, 238 EVs
Perot/Stockdale, 11%, 0 EVs
Browne/Olivier, 2%, 0 EVs

[Associate Justice PiT]

     Of course, that's because ads are overpowered. When I ran as Hoover, I began in the weakest possible position. However, ads were cheap enough that I could run them in 15-20 states per day, so I won anyway.

[Associate Justice PiT]

     I ran in 1964 as Goldwater. Umm, it wasn't a very difficult scenario. Some interesting things happened along the way, but ads were way too powerful.

Goldwater/Miller, 57%, 472 EVs
Johnson/Humphrey, 41%, 66 EVs
DeBerry/Shaw, 0%, 0 EVs
Hass/Blomen, 0%, 0 EVs

[Associate Justice PiT]

When you hack ads in the Canadian version, you automatically win in a landslide. I won a majority government as the Green Party just by hacking the ad codes.

I haven't noticed the same thing in the P4E. The election isn't a landslide.

     Ads are usually much less powerful than they are in this scenario. I might try the flip side & run as Johnson. Maybe I could even win MS.

     I should mention that there were 5-6 states that were decided by 5 points or less in my favor, so a late scandal would've significantly cut into my margin of victory.

[Associate Justice PiT]

     Decided to try 1964 again, only as Johnson this time. Landslide doesn't even begin to describe this result. Johnson broke 80% in many states, got close in many more states, & even broke 90% in RI. MS was decided by 6,000 votes. The next closest state, AL, was won 56-35.

Johnson/Humphrey, 75%, 538 EVs
Goldwater/Miller, 22%, 0 EVs
Hass/Blomen, 1%, 0 EVs
DeBerry/Shaw, 0%, 0 EVs

[Associate Justice PiT]

Polnut/Sebellius - 307EV - 50.7%
McCain/Palin - 231EV - 47.3%
Others -  2%%

I ended losing VT! but won FL, IN, OH!!!

     Guess they were the only state to realize that you were Australian & couldn't become president.

[Associate Justice PiT]

     Well, nobody told Vermont.

[Associate Justice PiT]

     I got PF+P back on the computer. After playing it & remembering that it is unplayably glitchy, I did 1896 as McKinley in the old version. It was really easy to hammer Bryan on the Gold Standard, which helped a lot.

Mckinley/Hobart, 54%, 354 EVs
Bryan/Sewall, 39%, 93 EVs
Palmer/Buckner, 3%, 0 EVs
Levering/Johnson, 2%, 0 EVs

[Associate Justice PiT]

     I got PF+P back on the computer. After playing it & remembering that it is unplayably glitchy, I did 1896 as McKinley in the old version. It was really easy to hammer Bryan on the Gold Standard, which helped a lot.

Mckinley/Hobart, 54%, 354 EVs
Bryan/Sewall, 39%, 93 EVs
Palmer/Buckner, 3%, 0 EVs
Levering/Johnson, 2%, 0 EVs

How do you get old scenarios for PF+P? I don't see them on their downloads page.

     Old scenarios are available here.

[Associate Justice PiT]

     I got PF+P back on the computer. After playing it & remembering that it is unplayably glitchy, I did 1896 as McKinley in the old version. It was really easy to hammer Bryan on the Gold Standard, which helped a lot.

Mckinley/Hobart, 54%, 354 EVs
Bryan/Sewall, 39%, 93 EVs
Palmer/Buckner, 3%, 0 EVs
Levering/Johnson, 2%, 0 EVs

How do you get old scenarios for PF+P? I don't see them on their downloads page.

     Old scenarios are available here.

I tried does on PF+P, but they don't work. They're PF scenarios only IIRC.

     Naturally. I find it impossible to play PF+P. The game is much, much too glitchy. What happened was I was playing in 2004 as Bush. I had no primary opponent, so I just ran ads promoting myself, & slowly overtook all of the states. Eventually, Nader entered the lead in IL & WV, Badnarik in NJ, & Peroutka in PA. Strange enough yet? Well, I entered the lead in DC at this point, so the Democrat had no EVs. All of a sudden, Edwards got almost 90% in the NC primary, & the generic Democrat jumped into the lead in general election polls there. So I offered all of my PIPs to Edwards to get him to drop out & endorse me. After that happened, the game crashed due to momentum overflow. This was mid-March in the campaign, so I lost a lot of time spent on that scenario.

[Associate Justice PiT]

     I reloaded from an earlier save & played PF+P through to the end. It's really a joke if you have no primary opponent.

Bush/Cheney, 81.5%, 538 EVs
Kerry/Biden, 14.1%, 0 EVs
Nader/Camejo, 1.5%, 0 EVs
Badnarik/Brown, 1.4%, 0 EVs
Peroutka/Baldwin, 1.4% 0 EVs

[Associate Justice PiT]

     I guess no one wants to comment on my overwhelming margin of victory.

[Associate Justice PiT]

     Ran in 1916 as Hughes. Not a whole lot to say, though both third-party candidates started out with ~15% in WY for some reason. I also lost MN, despite Hughes winning it in real life.

Hughes/Butler, 50%, 387 EVs
Wilson/Marshall, 43%, 144 EVs
Benson/Kirkpatrick, 4%, 0 EVs
Hanly/Seidel, 1%, 0 EVs

[Associate Justice PiT]

     Ran as Bush in 1988. I started out neck and neck with Dukakis. However, I ran a bunch of negative ads, & won easily. Dukakis won AL by 443 votes though.

Bush/Quayle, 61%, 526 EVs
Dukakis/Bentsen, 35%, 12 EVs
Duke/Parker, 2%, 0 EVs
Marrou/Lord, 0%, 0 EVs

[Associate Justice PiT]

     Decided to run in 1860 in a one-on-one match between Lincoln & Breckinridge. PA gave me a hard time for whatever reason, but eh. Unsurprisingly, the large majority of states were landslides.

Lincoln/Hamlin, 66%, 195 EVs
Breckinridge/Lane, 33%, 108 EVs

[Associate Justice PiT]

     Ran as Bush in 1988. I started out neck and neck with Dukakis. However, I ran a bunch of negative ads, & won easily. Dukakis won AL by 443 votes though.

Bush/Quayle, 61%, 526 EVs
Dukakis/Bentsen, 35%, 12 EVs
Duke/Parker, 2%, 0 EVs
Marrou/Lord, 0%, 0 EVs

Silly President Forever. The question I want to know is how did Governor Dukakis manage to win Alabama? Did Governor Dukakis lead in Alabama for a vast majority of the campaign or did a large abundance of undecideds vote for Dukakis at the last moment? It happens too many times in the new version of President Forever.

     He surged ahead about halfway through the campaign, though AL was a tossup at the time the last poll was taken. When I ran as Nixon in 1960, KY did the same thing.

[Associate Justice PiT]

     Ran in 2000 as McCain versus Gore. I broke a huge scandal on Gore later on in the campaign, which helped. Gore won California by 215,000 votes, which was very disappointing. Some states where the winner got >40% were actually not close at all. For example, Arkansas looked like:

McCain: 48%
Gore: 30%
Buchanan: 18%
Nader: 3%

     All in all, Nader & Buchanan performed freakishly well here.

McCain/Powell, 55%, 478 EVs
Gore/Kerry, 36%, 60 EVs
Buchanan/Foster, 4%, 0 EVs
Nader/LaDuke, 3%, 0 EVs

[Associate Justice PiT]

All in all, Nader & Buchanan performed freakishly well here.

PF+P?

     No, regular PF. If it were PF+P, they would probably have each won a couple of states.

[Associate Justice PiT]

     Ran 1984 as Mondale. I hit Reagan with two huge scandals on the home stretch. New Mexico was decided by 717 votes. Kentucky was decided by 755 votes. Georgia was decided by 4,614 votes.

     To the dismay of Naso, Mondale broke 60% in Ohio.

Mondale/Ferraro, 55%, 394 EVs
Reagan/Bush, 43%, 144 EVs
Bergland/Lewis, 0%, 0 EVs
LaRouche/Davis, 0%, 0 EVs