President Forever results thread...

[Middle-aged Europe]

Could you put a map up?

Uh, no... the Electoral College Calculator on this site has only three parties and I didn´t know a other way to make a map. But the single state that was won by Taft was Delaware if I recall correctly.

How do you guys make maps with four candidates?

[Middle-aged Europe]

I just save the three-party file to disk and then manually color in the fourth party's states in an image editing program.

I think I´m just too lazy for that one.

[Middle-aged Europe]

I just save the three-party file to disk and then manually color in the fourth party's states in an image editing program.

I think I´m just too lazy for that one.

Just copy this map into paint and just paint in the states as per the results.

Uh, ok, but I don´t have my 1912 results anymore.




Instead I will post the map of my 1980 result I just got playing as Anderson:





Ronald Reagan
Popular Vote: 36%
Electoral Vote: 297

James Carter
Popular Vote: 35%
Electoral Vote: 183

John Anderson
Popular Vote: 25%
Electoral Vote: 58

Edward Clark
Popular Vote: 2%
Electoral Vote: 0


The effect of attack ads is just ridiculously overrated in this game.

[Middle-aged Europe]

And the 1976 election, played with McCarthy:





Gerald Ford
Popular Vote: 41%
Electoral Vote: 269

James Carter
Popular Vote: 35%
Electoral Vote: 204

Eugene McCarthy
Popular Vote: 21%
Electoral Vote: 65

Edward Clark
Popular Vote: 2%
Electoral Vote: 0


Election was tied, Congress elected Carter

[Middle-aged Europe]

What is your strategy Old Europe? Is it that same old run tons of ads on the last couple of days strategy or is their something more to it?

Uh, bascially yes. But I´m trying to test this strategy with all third-party candidates now. You guys gave me the idea.




1960 with Harry Byrd:





John F. Kennedy
Popular Vote: 41%
Electoral Vote: 284

Richard Nixon
Popular Vote: 37%
Electoral Vote: 213

Harry Byrd
Popular Vote: 20%
Electoral Vote: 40

[Middle-aged Europe]

Now it gets completely unrealistic...



Nader wins Bush´s homestate in 2000 :





George W. Bush
Popular Vote: 40%
Electoral Vote: 268

Al Gore
Popular Vote: 36%
Electoral Vote: 225

Ralph Nader
Popular Vote: 21%
Electoral Vote: 45


Election was tied, Congress elected Bush.

[Middle-aged Europe]

2004 with Nader:





George W. Bush
Popular Vote: 39%
Electoral Vote: 261

John Kerry
Popular Vote: 36%
Electoral Vote: 248

Ralph Nader
Popular Vote: 22%
Electoral Vote: 29

Election tied, Congress elected Bush


I would like to know why I always win Virginia (!), when I´m playing as Nader?

[Middle-aged Europe]

1996 with Perot:





Dole
Popular Vote: 34%
Electoral Vote: 216

Clinton
Popular Vote: 30%
Electoral Vote: 184

Perot
Popular Vote: 32%
Electoral Vote: 138

Browne
Popular Vote: 2%
Electoral Vote: 0


Election was tied, Congress elected Clinton

[Middle-aged Europe]

1968 with Wallace, after tons of attack speeches, attack ads, and released scandals:





George Wallace
Popular Vote: 55%
Electoral Vote: 480

Hubert Humphrey
Popular Vote: 22%
Electoral Vote: 48

Richard Nixon
Popular Vote: 20%
Electoral Vote: 11

[Middle-aged Europe]

I had a dream last night where I played President Forever.  I was Perot in 1992 and won tons of states, even though the color used for me was blue. 









Stupid boring dreams of mundane pointlessness

Perot is a Democrat in your subconsciousness?

[Middle-aged Europe]

They should really try to lower the power of attack ads, attack speeches, and scandals in this game... especially attack ads. And it should be much harder for a third-party candidate to get ALL endorsements. By getting all endorsements I practically multiplied my campaign budget by the factor of 32!



1980 with Clark:





Carter
Popular Vote: 40%
Electoral Vote: 269

Reagan
Popular Vote: 33%
Electoral Vote: 170

Clark
Popular Vote: 20%
Electoral Vote: 99

Anderson
Popular Vote: 6%
Electoral Vote: 0


Election was tied, Congress elected Carter

[Middle-aged Europe]

So, this was the "House of Representatives - USA 2002" scenario, played with "Prime Minister Forever - Canada".

I took the Libertarian Party and managed to get 21 House seats in the end.



Notes about the map:

1) The shades do not denote the popular vote, but the percentage of the total seats won by the party in the respective state.

2) Vermont was won by an Independent (Sanders), all other states who are marked with the Green colour were won by the Líbertarian Party.





Republican Party: 45%, 229 seats
Democratic Party: 39%, 184 seats
Libertarian Party: 10%, 21 seats
Independents: 5%, 2 seats (Sanders and James Traficant in Ohio)

Libertarian seats by state:
Texas - 10
Washington - 6
Louisiana - 1
South Dakota - 1
Utah - 1
Wisconsin - 1
Wyoming - 1

[Middle-aged Europe]

I think this was the first time ever I managed to win all states:





John Kerry
Popular Vote: 63%
Electoral Vote: 538

George W. Bush
Popular Vote: 31%
Electoral Vote: 0

Ralph Nader
Popular Vote: 3%
Electoral Vote: 0

[Middle-aged Europe]

You won Idaho

Yes, when you´re winning all states it happens that you´re winnng Idaho too.


Actually, I always had my problems with Alaska. I managed to win all states, except Alaska, several times in the past. This is the first time I succeeded.

[Middle-aged Europe]

Another colourful map... I call it "1980: Attack of the third-party candidates".   I played with both Anderson and Clark and tried to weaken the two major candidates as hard as I could in sort of a coordinated attack. New Jersey was won by Clark, all other "green states" went to Anderson.






Carter
PV: 32%
EV: 253

Reagan
PV: 32%
EV: 234

Anderson
PV: 19%
EV: 34

Clark
PV: 15%
EV: 17

Congress elected Carter President.

[Middle-aged Europe]

1948 as Wallace


Red: Truman
Blue: Dewey
Dark Green: Thurmond
Light Green: Wallace





Dewey
PV: 33%
EV: 263

Truman
PV: 29%
EV: 151

Thurmond
PV: 16%
EV: 72

Wallace
PV: 20%
EV: 45


Congress elected Truman

[Middle-aged Europe]

Nader vs. Nolan





Nader (me)
PV: 51%
EV: 270

Nolan
PV: 48%
EV: 268

[Middle-aged Europe]

1992 as Perot ("The Power of Perot" scenario)





Perot
PV: 38%
EV: 310

Clinton
PV: 32%
EV: 114

Bush
PV: 27%
EV: 114

[Middle-aged Europe]

Bush/Cheney vs. Kucinich/Dean





Kucinich
PV: 60%
EV: 515

Bush
PV: 34%
EV: 23

[Middle-aged Europe]

Powell/Rice vs. Kucinich/Dean





Kucinich
PV: 56%
EV: 498

Powell
PV: 38%
EV: 40

[Middle-aged Europe]

1992: Pat Buchanan/Pat Robertson vs. Jerry Brown/Bob Kerrey vs. Ross Perot/James Stockdale (me)





Perot (I)
PV: 33%
EV: 265

Brown (D)
PV: 37%
EV: 261

Buchanan (R)
PV: 27%
EV: 12


Congress elected Brown

[Middle-aged Europe]

2000: McCain (me) vs. Gore

McCain
PV: 52%
EV: 344

Gore
PV: 46%
EV: 194

[Middle-aged Europe]

An odd-looking map for the "The Wedge - 2008" scenario:

Bob Kerrey / Christine Whitman (Progressive)
PV: 38%
EV: 274

Bill Frist / Bob Taft (Republican)
PV: 31%
EV: 233

Hillary Clinton / Bill Richardson (Democratic)
PV: 29%
EV: 31

[Middle-aged Europe]

Apparently, a three-party system would indeed produce odd maps.

"The Driver - 2012" scenario:

Christine Whitman / Lincoln Chafee (Progressive)
PV: 39%
EV: 304

Lindsey Graham / Bob Taft (Republican)
PV: 28%
EV: 170

Barack Obama / John Edwards (Democratic)
PV: 27%
EV: 64

Bob Jones / Tamara Millay (Independent)
PV: 4%
EV: 0

[Middle-aged Europe]

"Third-Party Battle"


Red = Nader
Blue = Badnarik
Dark Green = Cobb
Light Green = Peroutka

Cobb (me)
PV: 28%
EV: 275

Nader
PV: 26%
EV: 116

Badnarik
PV: 25%
EV: 94

Peroutka
PV: 20%
EV: 53