President Forever results thread...

[Fmr President & Senator Polnut]

Well, given things I ran four dems against Huckabee/Sanford (including myself) these were the results. The VP for each was Bayh.

Huckabee v Clinton

334 - 204

Huckabee v Edwards

348 - 190

Huckabee v Obama

313 - 225

Huckabee v Polnut

398 - 140

[Fmr President & Senator Polnut]

Funnily, what is odd is that I feel I experience more realistic results with the 08 edition. With 04 I end up winning Kansas and Mississippi all the time by 20-40% margins, but lose NJ or CA by 10%.

The 3rd parties never get more than 5% combined when I play.

[Fmr President & Senator Polnut]

The 3rd parties never get more than 5% combined when I play.

Are you serious? In the one game I have played (see above), they got 16.4% combined. It was like the Perot factor all over again.

Yeah.

The only time I've EVER had a third party get over 7% is when I play as a Unity candidate, I usually get between 25 - 29%, and win a few states. But a Badnarik or Peroutka would rarely get above 3%.

[Fmr President & Senator Polnut]

OK, I ran as my trusty billionaire NYker.

This was the last set of polls before election night.

Obama/Bayh - 35.2% 217 EV
Giuliani/Owens - 36.8% 230 EV
Polnut/Hagel (Unity) - 18.5% 0 EV
Undecided - 9.5% - 91 EV

Final result.

Well... Sorry in advance. I caused some problems, lol.

Obama/Bayh - 249 EV 43,146,198 - 34.9%
Giuliani/Owens - 289 EV 47,241,985 - 38.2%
Polnut/Hagel - 1 EV 33,360,118 - 27%

Some interesting states.
I beat Obama in (among others) TX, OK, MT, The Dakotas, AK
I beat Giuliani in NY, RI and DC

[Fmr President & Senator Polnut]

I end up beating Romney most regularly and most brutally.

This was the map of my biggest victory.

Romney/Hagel - 52 EV - 41.9%
Polnut/Warner - 486 EV - 58.1%

[Fmr President & Senator Polnut]

I tried as Romney once - I didn't spend a cent on advertising - and I didn't leave UT

I still won 130 EV and 42% of the vote.

[Fmr President & Senator Polnut]

I decided to see how I'd go against McCain/Huckabee.

I chose Bayh to be my VP nominee.

It was close all the way through. McCain won the first debate, we tied the second and I "triumphed" in the third.  He hit me on experience, I hit him on integrity.

This was the map on October 15

McCain - 45.3%
Polnut - 43.6%
Badnarik - 2.3%


Luckily I found a massive integrity scandal at the same time his attack ad backfired, and he went backwards. This was the result.

McCain - 169 - 44.7%
Polnut - 369 -  53.1%
Badnarik - 0 -    2.2%

[Fmr President & Senator Polnut]

That's funny, I always win ME.

I think I've lost it as the Dem... maybe twice - and both of those were landslides.

As a Dem I usually win it with 52-56%.

[Fmr President & Senator Polnut]

OK, I ran as my NY based billionaire independent.

I focused on a few states ME, IL, NY, CT, MO, MT, CA, OR, TX and SD

I really made things messy.

Obama/Easley - 255 EV - 35.5%

McCain/Huckabee - 247 EV - 35.9%

Polnut/Hagel - 36 EV - 28.6%

Obama is elected by the house.

States of interest

IL - I 40 D 38 R 22 - yes I took IL from Obama.
ME - I 36 R 32 D 32
MO - I 34 R 34 D 32
NY - D 38 R 33 I 29

[Fmr President & Senator Polnut]

I ran as myself in the 2008 Democratic primary.

I started from 0% - and crawled my way up - eventually coming third in Iowa and winning NH, MI (which didn't count). After winning PA, TX, OH and VT - Edwards and Obama endorsed me - pushing me over the top. Clinton stayed in until the end (and thumped me in IN, WV, KY, OR, SD and MT)- but I offered her VP.

The reps threw up... get this Paul/Romney.

I jumped out to an early lead - 44-40%

I was opening up some interesting states, and as 'integirty' became the key election issue - I pushed it harder and harder.

Going into election night I led 52-41% - but I was having some serious problems in states I really shouldn't have.

These were the results -

Yes I kid you not - I lost NH, FL and IA - but won OK, ID and LA - as well as GA, NC and TN.

Polnut/Clinton - 415EV 70,952,187 - 57.7%
Paul/Romney - 123EV 52,095,825 - 42.3%

Top 3 best results
P/C
VT- 75.7%
NY-75.2%
MA-72.3%

P/R
UT - 58.6%
WY - 57.9%
AL - 57.3%

13 states had margins of 4% or less.

The closest state you may ask?

Washington (for f**k's sake) which I won by 616 votes.

[Fmr President & Senator Polnut]

To be far Rocks,

I was running against Paul - you, against McCain - you had a harder time.

[Fmr President & Senator Polnut]

I managed to beat Reagan as Carter - with Anderson.

I started off being thumped.

Carter - 44% - 273 EV
Reagan - 43% - 265 EV
Anderson - 13% - 0EV

Best result (besides DC)
Carter GA - 58%
Reagan UT - 71%
Anderson NY - 33%

Closest state - PA
Carter won by 954 votes.

[Fmr President & Senator Polnut]

Polnut/Sebellius - 307EV - 50.7%
McCain/Palin - 231EV - 47.3%
Others -  2%%

I ended losing VT! but won FL, IN, OH!!!

[Fmr President & Senator Polnut]

Well it's an imaginary world where the US Constitution is fair on that front.

[Fmr President & Senator Polnut]

The Democratic Primary - well it was interesting - firstly Biden won Iowa and Dodd won NH.

But they didn't last long. While I got a close - I didn't win anything until ST, but when it came down to me v Clinton v Obama  I started to surge.

Ironically what did me in.... Obama endorsed Clinton.

Delegates
Clinton - 2221
Me - 1615

I became her running-mate.

Well the GE was.... interesting. We clobbered Giuliani on his experience.

I definited closed in on him but we didn't quite expect this - I think my 50-state leadership ad 3 days out made a BIG difference.

Clinton/Polnut - 534 EV 74,310,066 - 58.5%
Giuliani/Owens - 4EV 52,644,232 - 41.5%

....wow.

[Fmr President & Senator Polnut]

This was ODD... something trigged a massive turnout.

Tickets - Polnut/Obama - McCain/Palin

Polnut/Obama - 317 EV 86,340,582 - 54.7%
McCain/Palin - 221 EV 69,786,535 - 44.2%
Barr/??? - 870,211 - 0.6%
Baldwin/Who cares - 942,426 - 0.6%

Total number of vote - 157,969,756 votes.... good lord.

Never mind the fact that I lost my home state - PA, as well as OR, NH and OH.... but won GA, AL, SC, MT and NC....as well as taking McCain's home state by 10%

[Fmr President & Senator Polnut]

Seriously, the new PE is really pissin me off. I've ran several scenarios, and the democrats win everytime. I actually had a campaign with Mike Huckabee running against Dennis Kucinich (I played as Dennis), and Kucinich won with nearly 6 percent, and landslided in the electoral.

Nope I just lost as Hillary against Romney.

Not by much and I closed something scary in the last 2 weeks - but still lost.

[Fmr President & Senator Polnut]

Polnut/Clinton - 400 EV 57.6%
Romney/Paul - 138 EV 42.4%

Yes, I broke 70% in Romney's home state.

[Fmr President & Senator Polnut]

Democratic Primary
Red = Me
Blue = Clinton
Green = Obama

Very closely run thing - I got Obama to endorse me 2 weeks before the convention, and I won by 25 delegates.


General...close in the early days, but I stayed positive and....

Polnut/Bayh - 435EV 56.4%
Romney/Jindal - 103EV  41.6%
Paul - 1.4%

Best state (not DC) - Vermont 73.2%
Worst state - Utah 34.5%
Closest state - Texas by 359 votes... damn it!!!

The light coloured states were the white undecideds before the election...

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[Fmr President & Senator Polnut]

This one was just plain screwy.

Ran as 'me' and clinched the nomination just before the West Virginia primary in May. Obama remained in the race, and I even offered him the VP spot 3 times, but refused it.

After the convention my numbers went through the floor due to angry Obama supporters it seems, at one point, this was the map...

Polnut/Clinton - 130 - 29% (Democrat was 45% before convention)
Romney/McCain - 372 - 44% (eventually made it as high at 49%)
Toss Up - 36


I pushed him hard, I absolutely drowned the airwaves, thankfully my heavy fundraising efforts worked... but something very odd must have happened in the electorate...

as this was the map... I lost NH and MN, but won AL and TN? Also the closest state...  WV and LA, by around 5,000 votes. Even TX was decided by less than 1%

But think this was my best comeback

Polnut/Clinton - 327EV - 54.2%

Romney/McCain - 211 - 45.8%

[Fmr President & Senator Polnut]

My running in 2008 as an Independent, even though my weighted positions were 3.0 to Obama's 2.8 - I seemed to do more damage to McCain early on, and eventually started to take voters from both sides... please note I gave myself a LOT of money.

Obama/Biden - 322EV - 39.4% (Best state (not DC) - MA, 63.4%/ Worst state - WY, 20.7%)
McCain/Palin - 216EV - 37.6% (Best state - AL, 55.4%/ Worst state - HI, 16%)
Polnut/Hagel - 0EV - 22.1% (Best state - CT/NH, 32.3% / Worst state (that I was on the ballot) - AL, 14%)

[Fmr President & Senator Polnut]

Best result ever as an independent

Obama and McCain got flogged through most of the campaign, I sailed through with positive momentum, while I still ran ads in every state, I focused on 11 states where I was behind by less than 25% at the start of the 4th week.
- NH
- ME
- VT
- CT
- CO
- NM
- VA
- FL
- WI
- CA
- TX

....

This was a doozy, with the election not being called until 4:24am - when CA was called for Obama, which he won by roughly 30,000 votes.

Key state results
Texas -  McCain: 40.4% - Obama: 32.4% Polnut: 25.8%
Vermont - Polnut: 41.4% - Obama: 29.6% - McCain: 28.2%
Florida -  McCain: 36.4% - Polnut: 34.1% - Obama: 28%

Totals
Obama - 287 EV - 35.5%
McCain - 216 EV - 34.8%
Polnut -    35 EV - 28.4%

The only states I didn't get over 20%, were the states I wasn't on the ballot - MA, OK, NC, DC, AZ, HI and IN

I got over 30% in
FL, WI, NH, ME, CO, VT, NV, NM, VA, CT

...and over 40% in
VT, WI

[Fmr President & Senator Polnut]

Went through primaries, eventually Clinton endorsed me and put me over the top, Obama refused to drop out or accept the VP slot until July, even though I wrapped up the nomination after the West Virgina primary.

So it was McCain/Pawlenty vs Polnut/Obama....


McCain really couldn't catch a break...

There were about 5 states that were decided by less than 1% - I think the last minute nation-wide network TV ad I did on my leadership pushed them over... all except, AZ, which McCain held onto by less than 500 votes.

Polnut/Obama - 450 EV - 59.8%
McCain/Pawlenty - 88 EV - 40.2%

Best state (outside of DC): CT 80.2-19.8% (LOL!!!)

Worst state: UT 40.5-59.5%

[Fmr President & Senator Polnut]

An awkward one... during set up, I forgot to not close the Independent.... which is me also.

So the contest was

D: Polnut/Richardson
R: McCain/Palin
L: Barr/Eh... I don't care
I: Polnut/Hagel

So end result....

Polnut/Richardson - 448 EV - 50.3%
McCain/Palin - 90 EV - 37.8%
"Libertarians" - 0 EV - 0.5%
Polnut/Hagel - 0 EV - 11.4%

[Fmr President & Senator Polnut]

2012

Obama/Biden - 462 EV - 53.2%
Romney/Rice - 76 EV - 38.1%
Paul/Crackpot - 0 EV - 8.7%

While Paul didn't crack 9% nationally, he did well enough in GA, AZ, MT, KY, SC, LA and TX that he certainly cost Romney those states.

FYI

CT: Obama: 56 Romney: 42
NJ: Obama 54 Romney: 42
GA: Obama: 47.5 Romney 47.4
AZ: Obama 46.2 Romney 46.0
TX: Obama 45.1 Romney 44.9