President Forever results thread...

[ilikeverin]

Yeah, I just won the entire South save for South Carolina with Bell.  I think it's safe to say that it's easier to do with Bell than it is with Lincoln.

No, I'm talking about winning the North with Bell.

[ilikeverin]

So close, and yet so far...


Eugene Debs - 258 EV - 28% PV
Woodrow Wilson - 147 EV - 23% PV
Howard Taft - 102 EV - 26% PV
Theodore Roosevelt - 24 EV - 21% PV

Party-by-party

Socialist


Democratic


Republican


Progressive

[ilikeverin]

Accidentally closed the window before recording anything else, but look how I did as Thurmond Sooooo close and yet so far

[ilikeverin]

A rather disappointing game as Anderson (vs. Reagan vs. Carter, 1980).



Sorry, closed down window before taking down results.  I know I got ~20% PV, and Carter won.

Rep %s:



Dem %s:



Ind %s:

[ilikeverin]

Fun with Debs!



Eugene Debs - 358 EV, 41% PV (23,677,538)
Howard Taft - 131 EV, 27% PV (15,874,066)
Woodrow Wilson - 30 EV, 17% PV (9,835,220)
Theodore Roosevelt - 12 EV, 13% PV (7,877,594)

I did an ad blitz strategy; 3 days of ads in the middle of the campaign, 3 days at the end.  Plus advertising in every state with every ad on the very last day, of course Though FWIW I did win all the states that were in my strategy.  It didn't hurt that two scandals, on Wilson and Roosevelt (that weren't my work), were released shortly after my mid-season ad blitz.  The Roosevelt one was particularly fun, because after I and another candidate spun it it immediately became unspinnable and stood up at 12 power for a while (meanwhile the Wilson one became unspinnable after maybe a week and it too stayed quite high)

Candidate by candidate:

[ilikeverin]

Can someone play me on one of these cool new ones?

The problem with the primaries version is that you need to program a starting amount for each candidate, or elese they will start out at "0"... so it is a lot harder to do than it was in the old one.

You can highlight more than one state at a time using shift or control.

[ilikeverin]

Election 2008

I played as Badnarik, and didn't do much until the general election, because, for one, he doesn't have a primary opponent, and for two, this was mostly intended to be a test of my tampered-with 2008 scenario.  I added three more candidates to the Constitution nomination (Randy Jones of Alabama (), Snootay Bankeur of New York, and Wayne Granger of Wyoming) and also fixed the dates a bit so that some momentum could have a chance to build due to primary victories.  The numbers I gave them in each state actually made the primary as a whole rather competitive, which was fun to watch  

Eventually John Kerry won a very competitive Democratic primary over Hillary Clinton, thanks in part to a pre-convention endorsement from John Edwards.  Interestingly, this was the first computer-only primary I've seen where there was no majority at the convention; Joe Biden and Wes Clark were also in the race, but they both gave most of their delegates to Kerry to push him over the margin necessary.  The Republican primary was a bit of a snoozer... Romney took the lead a short time after the New Hampshire primary, and never let go.  I managed to get McCain's endorsement before he departed the race.  The Constitution primaries also went to Bankeur at the convention, when Peroutka and Granger gave most of their votes to him instead of to Jones.

Once it got to the general election, I started creating crusaders and making ads.  The day before election day I released them in strategically selected markets, and on election day proper I did the typical 50-state ad blitz (well, 49, you'll see what I mean).

Here are the results:


John Kerry/Wesley Clark (D) - 54,682,029 votes (46.2%) - 345 EV
Mitt Romney/Condoleezza Rice (R) - 45,948,816 votes (38.8%) - 193 EV
Michael Badnarik/Lance Brown (L) - 12,414,832 votes (10.5%) - 0 EV
Snooty Bankeur/Wayne Granger (C) - 5,403,460 votes (4.6%) - 0 EV

Democratic:


Republican:


Libertarian:

No Ballot means no ballot access.

Constitution:


Whee

Oh, and, gotta mention: based on 2004 registration numbers, this is an impressive 70.59% turnout!

[ilikeverin]

I ran as General Douglas MacArthur in "The Disaster at D-Day" 1944 Scenario. President Roosevelt, suffering from a heart attack due to the stress of the failed invasion, is forced from the Democratic Ticket so he can not seek a third term.

Wouldn't that be his fourth term?

Of course Gabu. What a fool I am! Well, FDR changed everything, why not the way we count as well?

I think many would say he already did.

One... two... oops, I need a massive federal program in order to keep going

[ilikeverin]

For some reason, Paul always seems to break out and go crazy.  I think it's because one of the new programmers is a Paul supporter himself.  I'm trying to tinker around with this to fix it, and also to make Huckabee's sudden rise much more likely.

[ilikeverin]

Governor Vilsack had a problem: he was winning nowhere, not even his home state.  But then, Vilsack had a solution: just sit in his home state of Iowa for months, gaining momentum.

And so he did.  He did so well with this strategy that Iowa was soon strongly for him.  So, he moved on.  First to Illinois.  Then to California and Arizona.  Slowly but steadily, his momentum built, racking up crucial endorsements from candidates dropping out.  Then came the biggest endorsement of all: Senator John Edwards, who gave Vilsack the nomination.

Unfortunately, Clinton refused to drop out until July, so Vilsack was left campaigning in the general election while Clinton was doing her thing.  Once she dropped out, strange happenings started to happen.  Peroutka, of all people, spiked to 40% in some random polls of random states, before randomly going back down the next turn inexplicably.  Except in some states, he didn't return to nothing.  Vilsack didn't care, however; the polls showed him with a massive boost after Clinton left the race.  So he pretty much cruised to the win, with the help of some pleasant Education ads.  And Peroutka won North Dakota.  Based on where Peroutka got votes, his support seems to have come from a splinter group of the GOP.


Vilsack/Bayh: 489 EV, 67.4% PV
McCain/Giuliani: 46 EV, 28.2% PV
Peroutka/Brown (whoever the default guy is): 3 EV, 3.1% PV
Badnarik/???: 0 EV, 1.3% PV

Vilsack vote:


McCain vote:


Peroutka vote:

[ilikeverin]

Wow, I just discovered that putting P4E+P onto a new computer is way easy... yay automation

[ilikeverin]

So, I spacebarred through 2004 as Badnarik, when some very odd things started to happen.  First, I checked out the election map after the primaries.



Um, oookay... Edwards must've gotten a bit desperate, because...



He may be a maverick, but suicidal?  Meanwhile Dick Cheney must've had a heart attack because Bush picked Condi.  In October...



I, expecting a good deal of fun, was eager for election day.  Then I got some fatal errors on Election Day itself   Silly 80soft.

[ilikeverin]

Spacebarring through 2008 to check whether it's a universal error:


Clinton/? overwhelmingly defeats Giuliani/Palin

It's not!

[ilikeverin]

I ran as Perot.

   
Final PV tally was something like 38-31-31 Bush-Clinton-Perot.  I'm not sure why that happened, though... polls suggested 33-27-28 and nationwide momentum was (-9.2)-(-3.5)-(+5).  Went to the House where they elected Bush.

[ilikeverin]

Way back when, I remember playing this game and managing to beat Reagan with Ted Kennedy in 1980 with a 269-269 tie. Don't ask me how I did it, but it took many, many hours and re-matches to pull off. With that said, trust me when I say that Reagan is UNBEATABLE in 1984. There is absolutely no way to beat him.

     . . .

     Ran 1984 as Mondale. I hit Reagan with two huge scandals on the home stretch. New Mexico was decided by 717 votes. Kentucky was decided by 755 votes. Georgia was decided by 4,614 votes.

     To the dismay of Naso, Mondale broke 60% in Ohio.

Mondale/Ferraro, 55%, 394 EVs
Reagan/Bush, 43%, 144 EVs
Bergland/Lewis, 0%, 0 EVs
LaRouche/Davis, 0%, 0 EVs

     You were saying?

Maybe I am mixing this up with another game? I think the one I played was called President Forever 1988. Or maybe it was President Elect. Either way, I spent hours trying to beat Reagan in '84 and only came away with a handful of states no matter what I did.

     Most likely. Even without the two scandals, I was still in a dead heat with him. Beating him is not easy by any means, but it's still very doable.

President Elect?

Now that I think about it, that was a really fun game.

[ilikeverin]

Huckabee: 48.7% PV (60,567,774) PV, 272 EV
Edwards: 48.7% PV (60,567,270) PV, 266 EV
Barr: 2.4% (2,948,569) PV, 0 EV
Baldwin: 0.1 % (167,367) PV, 0 EV

Nationwide margin: 504 votes; closest state margin: Iowa, 2,568 votes.

Personally I'm just shocked that there was ever a psuedo-normal-looking map produced using PF.

[ilikeverin]

Now that I know what I'm doing, I did an Edwards v. Gingrich rematch, and barely won 281-257. Gingrich narrowly carried Oregon with 7000, and Tennessee by 20,000 or so. Edwards narrowly held onto California, by about 1.5%, and carried Connecticut with less than 2000 votes. A screwy map, but I'm glad I finally won.

I still find it hilarious you lost Hawaii

I find it hilarious how the 08 scenario is based so much off the 04 numbers. (I.E. California and Hawaii can easily fall into the swing column and Indiana is almost as red as Wyoming and Idaho.)

That's because it was, in November 2007.

California and Hawaii are less excusable.

[ilikeverin]

Ventura/Barkley's not possible.

It is, electors in Minnesota just couldn't vote for them though (right?).

Exactly. Therefore, for all intents and purposes, it is impossible.

I just used Barkely so the home state bonus could allow ventura to win at least that one state narrowly

Eww, Ventura could never win Minnesota in a presidential election.  I think Barkley would be more likely to win Minnesota than Ventura.