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TommyC1776
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« on: June 15, 2004, 08:39:59 PM »
Does anybody think Puerto Rico should become the 51st state?  I think so.
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« Reply #1 on: June 15, 2004, 08:45:11 PM »
Either that, or they should leave the union.
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« Reply #2 on: June 15, 2004, 09:02:54 PM »
I already did this poll.  Statehood won in a landslide.

http://www.uselectionatlas.org/FORUM/index.php?board=1;action=display;threadid=3082
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« Reply #3 on: June 15, 2004, 09:31:14 PM »

ok
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« Reply #4 on: June 15, 2004, 10:02:18 PM »
Yes.
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« Reply #5 on: June 15, 2004, 10:36:39 PM »
No way.  I'm happy to have them sitting there collecting welfare, etc, without paying taxes, just to avoid 2 more leftist Democratic senators and another gauranteed six or seven electoral votes for the Dems.
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« Reply #6 on: June 16, 2004, 07:33:10 AM »
Quote from: opebo on June 15, 2004, 10:36:39 PM
No way.  I'm happy to have them sitting there collecting welfare, etc, without paying taxes, just to avoid 2 more leftist Democratic senators and another gauranteed six or seven electoral votes for the Dems.

What about Massachusetts?  that's mostly an all Democraic state  Do you think Massachusetts shouldn't of been a state since there Democratic?
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« Reply #7 on: June 16, 2004, 08:33:03 AM »
Quote from: KucinichforPrez on June 16, 2004, 07:33:10 AM
Quote from: opebo on June 15, 2004, 10:36:39 PM
No way.  I'm happy to have them sitting there collecting welfare, etc, without paying taxes, just to avoid 2 more leftist Democratic senators and another gauranteed six or seven electoral votes for the Dems.

What about Massachusetts?  that's mostly an all Democraic state  Do you think Massachusetts shouldn't of been a state since there Democratic?
MA doesn't compare since it is an orignal colony and before the current two parties existed. There was certainly a tradition in the pre-civil-war era to maintain parity by bringing states in two at a time. It's also true that AK and HI made a pair in 1959 and one was heavily D and the other R. Perhaps if there was a Republican-leaning entry to pair with PR it would meet any political objections.
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« Reply #8 on: June 16, 2004, 12:40:32 PM »
No, not for political reasons, I think it should be independent so we can have a major foreign ally in the Carribean Sea.
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« Reply #9 on: June 16, 2004, 12:52:10 PM »
Quote from: muon2 on June 16, 2004, 08:33:03 AM
Quote from: KucinichforPrez on June 16, 2004, 07:33:10 AM
Quote from: opebo on June 15, 2004, 10:36:39 PM
No way.  I'm happy to have them sitting there collecting welfare, etc, without paying taxes, just to avoid 2 more leftist Democratic senators and another gauranteed six or seven electoral votes for the Dems.

What about Massachusetts?  that's mostly an all Democraic state  Do you think Massachusetts shouldn't of been a state since there Democratic?
MA doesn't compare since it is an orignal colony and before the current two parties existed. There was certainly a tradition in the pre-civil-war era to maintain parity by bringing states in two at a time. It's also true that AK and HI made a pair in 1959 and one was heavily D and the other R. Perhaps if there was a Republican-leaning entry to pair with PR it would meet any political objections.

When Alaska and Hawaii were brought in they were both battleground states. They changed massively right about that time.
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« Reply #10 on: June 16, 2004, 01:09:10 PM »
« Edited: June 16, 2004, 01:11:00 PM by Lunar »
Hold a referendum with two options:
1.Independence as a sovereign nation
2.Become part of the Union as the 51st state

Option 2 would win 80-20, but it should still be done.

Quote from: KucinichforPrez on June 16, 2004, 07:33:10 AM
What about Massachusetts?  that's mostly an all Democraic state  Do you think Massachusetts shouldn't of been a state since there Democratic?

You have to understand Opebo.  He doesn't even like democracy that much, so denying someone voting ability isn't a scar on his conscience or anything.  If it was up to him, he would have only Wyoming decide, or better yet, no state decide and he could choose himself.  I doubt he'd disagree with this statement.
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« Reply #11 on: December 08, 2008, 12:21:22 AM »
Quote from: opebo on June 15, 2004, 10:36:39 PM
No way.  I'm happy to have them sitting there collecting welfare, etc, without paying taxes, just to avoid 2 more leftist Democratic senators and another gauranteed six or seven electoral votes for the Dems.


how republican of you
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« Reply #12 on: December 08, 2008, 12:32:25 AM »
Quote from: Aizen on December 08, 2008, 12:21:22 AM
Quote from: opebo on June 15, 2004, 10:36:39 PM
No way.  I'm happy to have them sitting there collecting welfare, etc, without paying taxes, just to avoid 2 more leftist Democratic senators and another gauranteed six or seven electoral votes for the Dems.


how republican of you

He was a Republican then.
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« Reply #13 on: December 08, 2008, 01:03:37 AM »
Sure. Lets add the Virgin Islands, Guam and American Samoa as states while we're at it.
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« Reply #14 on: December 08, 2008, 01:19:22 AM »
too small a state should have >500,000
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« Reply #15 on: December 08, 2008, 01:42:36 AM »
Quote from: casper the friendly commie on June 16, 2004, 12:52:10 PM
Quote from: muon2 on June 16, 2004, 08:33:03 AM
Quote from: KucinichforPrez on June 16, 2004, 07:33:10 AM
Quote from: opebo on June 15, 2004, 10:36:39 PM
No way.  I'm happy to have them sitting there collecting welfare, etc, without paying taxes, just to avoid 2 more leftist Democratic senators and another gauranteed six or seven electoral votes for the Dems.

What about Massachusetts?  that's mostly an all Democraic state  Do you think Massachusetts shouldn't of been a state since there Democratic?
MA doesn't compare since it is an orignal colony and before the current two parties existed. There was certainly a tradition in the pre-civil-war era to maintain parity by bringing states in two at a time. It's also true that AK and HI made a pair in 1959 and one was heavily D and the other R. Perhaps if there was a Republican-leaning entry to pair with PR it would meet any political objections.

When Alaska and Hawaii were brought in they were both battleground states. They changed massively right about that time.

Alaska was pretty strong D, actually.
No. Can you imagine how the flag would look?
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« Reply #16 on: December 08, 2008, 01:45:14 AM »
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« Reply #17 on: December 08, 2008, 01:58:50 AM »
Isn't it possible to still keep the rows with 51? 9-8-9-8-9-8?
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« Reply #18 on: December 08, 2008, 02:33:32 AM »
Quote from: VP Meeker on December 08, 2008, 01:58:50 AM
Isn't it possible to still keep the rows with 51? 9-8-9-8-9-8?

Yeah if you don't care if our flag is homoeroticized
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« Reply #19 on: December 08, 2008, 08:43:23 PM »
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