Pennsylvania Governor 2010

[Lunar]

Shocker of the race - Corbett camp trying to persuade former foe Bruce Castor to "run with" Corbett in 2010 as his Lt. Gubernatorial candidate.

http://www.kyw1060.com/-i-Analysis---i--Pa--Republicans-Running-for-Gover/3562306

I really can't believe this. Councilman Rizzo (son of the legendary late Mayor) is also being asked to run. That would be very interesting as well but the idea of Corbett and Castor together is very surprising considering their history. It would be an amazingly strong ticket though.

Bruce Castor, the man who let Bill Cosby walk the streets again?   

[Keystone Phil]

Shocker of the race - Corbett camp trying to persuade former foe Bruce Castor to "run with" Corbett in 2010 as his Lt. Gubernatorial candidate.

http://www.kyw1060.com/-i-Analysis---i--Pa--Republicans-Running-for-Gover/3562306

I really can't believe this. Councilman Rizzo (son of the legendary late Mayor) is also being asked to run. That would be very interesting as well but the idea of Corbett and Castor together is very surprising considering their history. It would be an amazingly strong ticket though.

Bruce Castor, the man who let Bill Cosby walk the streets again?   

Yes, that one.   He was very popular as DA and I'm sure just as popular as a County Commissioner.

[Southern Senator North Carolina Yankee]

Shocker of the race - Corbett camp trying to persuade former foe Bruce Castor to "run with" Corbett in 2010 as his Lt. Gubernatorial candidate.

http://www.kyw1060.com/-i-Analysis---i--Pa--Republicans-Running-for-Gover/3562306

I really can't believe this. Councilman Rizzo (son of the legendary late Mayor) is also being asked to run. That would be very interesting as well but the idea of Corbett and Castor together is very surprising considering their history. It would be an amazingly strong ticket though.

Bruce Castor, the man who let Bill Cosby walk the streets again?   

Yes, that one.   He was very popular as DA and I'm sure just as popular as a County Commissioner.

What are the chances Castor agrees? I mean there is quite a history between them.

[Keystone Phil]

Shocker of the race - Corbett camp trying to persuade former foe Bruce Castor to "run with" Corbett in 2010 as his Lt. Gubernatorial candidate.

http://www.kyw1060.com/-i-Analysis---i--Pa--Republicans-Running-for-Gover/3562306

I really can't believe this. Councilman Rizzo (son of the legendary late Mayor) is also being asked to run. That would be very interesting as well but the idea of Corbett and Castor together is very surprising considering their history. It would be an amazingly strong ticket though.

Bruce Castor, the man who let Bill Cosby walk the streets again?   

Yes, that one.   He was very popular as DA and I'm sure just as popular as a County Commissioner.

What are the chances Castor agrees? I mean there is quite a history between them.

That's the problem. I don't know how much he still dislikes Corbett but he's probably loving this. If I was Corbett, I'd be begging Castor. That would be one hell of a ticket. Plus, Castor wasn't too thrilled with running for Commissioner. He liked DA and had a good gig there. He ran to help the county party only to be screwed by Jim Matthews. I bet he wants out of that since Matthews and Hoeffel aim to screw him over all the time. Castor would then be able to make a name for himself statewide. Who knows...he could be a Senatorial candidate in 2012 or 2016 or maybe even Governor in 2014 or 2018. He's still young and this only helps. He's not getting much out of being a marginalized Commissioner.

[J. J.]

Shocker of the race - Corbett camp trying to persuade former foe Bruce Castor to "run with" Corbett in 2010 as his Lt. Gubernatorial candidate.

http://www.kyw1060.com/-i-Analysis---i--Pa--Republicans-Running-for-Gover/3562306

I really can't believe this. Councilman Rizzo (son of the legendary late Mayor) is also being asked to run. That would be very interesting as well but the idea of Corbett and Castor together is very surprising considering their history. It would be an amazingly strong ticket though.

Castor would be ideal, if he's willing.

[Keystone Phil]

Castor would be ideal, if he's willing.

Not only is he willing...

A friend of mine who knows Castor confirmed tonight that he is indeed running for Lt. Governor. This is amazing. If anyone had suggested Corbett - Castor four years ago, it wouldn't even be treated as a joke. It would be beyond fantasy. It would have been seen as a very cruel suggestion.

[Speed of Sound]

*rubs forehead* Well....damn. I'm not gonna really evaluate the odds on this race till I see some clearing on the Dem side, but ouch, man, ouch. I think we're in trouble here...

[MaxQue]

Castor would be ideal, if he's willing.

Not only is he willing...

A friend of mine who knows Castor confirmed tonight that he is indeed running for Lt. Governor. This is amazing. If anyone had suggested Corbett - Castor four years ago, it wouldn't even be treated as a joke. It would be beyond fantasy. It would have been seen as a very cruel suggestion.

They put their personal conflicts on the side for the sake of their party in Pennsylvania.

[Lunar]

Castor would be ideal, if he's willing.

Not only is he willing...

A friend of mine who knows Castor confirmed tonight that he is indeed running for Lt. Governor. This is amazing. If anyone had suggested Corbett - Castor four years ago, it wouldn't even be treated as a joke. It would be beyond fantasy. It would have been seen as a very cruel suggestion.

Isn't that the sort of thing you keep on the D-L?

When I gots internal polls of early voting and inside tips I gotta be vague   Like "McCain won't win Colorado, I'm kinda/extremely certain" or "I know someone who voted in kicking out Lieberman" 

[Keystone Phil]

They put their personal conflicts on the side for the sake of their party in Pennsylvania.

Yes, but we know that that hardly ever happens in politics. This is pretty big. These two really didn't like each other and might still have some serious issues. Castor himself has been talked up as a potential Gubernatorial candidate in the past but I guess he realizes that there's no beating Corbett and if you can't beat him, join him. After all, while he has to play number two to his former arch foe, this does help him big time in the long run. This will set him up as a top tier candidate, frequently courted by the national GOP for the Senate in 2012, 2016 and/or 2018.

Isn't that the sort of thing you keep on the D-L?

Well, no, not really. I brought up the possibility of him running to my friend and she quickly told me that it was definitely happening, as if everyone ought to know by now. It really isn't meant to be on the "D-L" at this point after it was leaked to the press that it might be happening.

[Mr.Phips]

*rubs forehead* Well....damn. I'm not gonna really evaluate the odds on this race till I see some clearing on the Dem side, but ouch, man, ouch. I think we're in trouble here...

Dems just better put everything possible into holding the state House.  They cannot afford to get rolled in redistricting here again. 

[J. J.]

*rubs forehead* Well....damn. I'm not gonna really evaluate the odds on this race till I see some clearing on the Dem side, but ouch, man, ouch. I think we're in trouble here...

Dems just better put everything possible into holding the state House.  They cannot afford to get rolled in redistricting here again. 

Right now, with the investigation, and a probable off year backlash against the Democrats (even a very slight one), the PA House is gone.  It's a five seat margin, and factionalized.

[I spent the winter writing songs about getting better]

*rubs forehead* Well....damn. I'm not gonna really evaluate the odds on this race till I see some clearing on the Dem side, but ouch, man, ouch. I think we're in trouble here...

Dems just better put everything possible into holding the state House.  They cannot afford to get rolled in redistricting here again. 

Right now, with the investigation, and a probable off year backlash against the Democrats (even a very slight one), the PA House is gone.  It's a five seat margin, and factionalized.

Oh wow, that's definitely worrying when someone with such an awesome prediction track record says so!

[Keystone Phil]

*rubs forehead* Well....damn. I'm not gonna really evaluate the odds on this race till I see some clearing on the Dem side, but ouch, man, ouch. I think we're in trouble here...

Dems just better put everything possible into holding the state House.  They cannot afford to get rolled in redistricting here again. 

Right now, with the investigation, and a probable off year backlash against the Democrats (even a very slight one), the PA House is gone.  It's a five seat margin, and factionalized.

Oh wow, that's definitely worrying when someone with such an awesome prediction track record says so!

You really are a waste of life.

It will be very hard for the Dems to hold the State House and they can forget about getting close in the State Senate.

[Sam Spade]

Yep, Corbett-Castor, on paper, would be a very strong tandem, especially in a halfway decent environment.  We'll see whether the eight-year rule of PA holds on.

[J. J.]

*rubs forehead* Well....damn. I'm not gonna really evaluate the odds on this race till I see some clearing on the Dem side, but ouch, man, ouch. I think we're in trouble here...

Dems just better put everything possible into holding the state House.  They cannot afford to get rolled in redistricting here again. 

Right now, with the investigation, and a probable off year backlash against the Democrats (even a very slight one), the PA House is gone.  It's a five seat margin, and factionalized.

Oh wow, that's definitely worrying when someone with such an awesome prediction track record says so!

Except in this case, it's post-diction.  The scandal broke last summer.  And guess who just happens to be the AG prosecuting it?  Corbett.

As a bit of irony, I really don't like Corbett too much.

[Keystone Phil]

*rubs forehead* Well....damn. I'm not gonna really evaluate the odds on this race till I see some clearing on the Dem side, but ouch, man, ouch. I think we're in trouble here...

Dems just better put everything possible into holding the state House.  They cannot afford to get rolled in redistricting here again. 

Right now, with the investigation, and a probable off year backlash against the Democrats (even a very slight one), the PA House is gone.  It's a five seat margin, and factionalized.

Oh wow, that's definitely worrying when someone with such an awesome prediction track record says so!

Except in this case, it's post-diction.  The scandal broke last summer.  And guess who just happens to be the AG prosecuting it?  Corbett.

As a bit of irony, I really don't like Corbett too much.

But, in fairness, he does at least say that there will be Republicans investigated as well (though the investigation has definitely focused on and hurt the Dems a lot more).

[Mr.Phips]

*rubs forehead* Well....damn. I'm not gonna really evaluate the odds on this race till I see some clearing on the Dem side, but ouch, man, ouch. I think we're in trouble here...

Dems just better put everything possible into holding the state House.  They cannot afford to get rolled in redistricting here again. 

Right now, with the investigation, and a probable off year backlash against the Democrats (even a very slight one), the PA House is gone.  It's a five seat margin, and factionalized.

Then why did Democrats pick up seats in 2008?  Also, in this blue state, Democratic House candidates can ask voters to elect them as a check on a likely Republican governor and control of redistricting. 

[Keystone Phil]

*rubs forehead* Well....damn. I'm not gonna really evaluate the odds on this race till I see some clearing on the Dem side, but ouch, man, ouch. I think we're in trouble here...

Dems just better put everything possible into holding the state House.  They cannot afford to get rolled in redistricting here again. 

Right now, with the investigation, and a probable off year backlash against the Democrats (even a very slight one), the PA House is gone.  It's a five seat margin, and factionalized.

Then why did Democrats pick up seats in 2008?  Also, in this blue state, Democratic House candidates can ask voters to elect them as a check on a likely Republican governor and control of redistricting. 

They won't care about redistricting.

The Dems picked up seats in 2008 because, well, it was 2008. You know that. And even then, the had a net gain of two seats. I'm not saying that a takeover is 100% certain but it's definitely in our favor.

[Mr.Phips]

*rubs forehead* Well....damn. I'm not gonna really evaluate the odds on this race till I see some clearing on the Dem side, but ouch, man, ouch. I think we're in trouble here...

Dems just better put everything possible into holding the state House.  They cannot afford to get rolled in redistricting here again. 

Right now, with the investigation, and a probable off year backlash against the Democrats (even a very slight one), the PA House is gone.  It's a five seat margin, and factionalized.

Then why did Democrats pick up seats in 2008?  Also, in this blue state, Democratic House candidates can ask voters to elect them as a check on a likely Republican governor and control of redistricting. 

They won't care about redistricting.

The Dems picked up seats in 2008 because, well, it was 2008. You know that. And even then, the had a net gain of two seats. I'm not saying that a takeover is 100% certain but it's definitely in our favor.

You also said Republicans would take over the state House in 2008.  The problem for Republicans is that there are more Republican held seats in the increasingly Democratic Southeast than Democratic held seats left in the increasingly Republican Southwest. 

[J. J.]

*rubs forehead* Well....damn. I'm not gonna really evaluate the odds on this race till I see some clearing on the Dem side, but ouch, man, ouch. I think we're in trouble here...

Dems just better put everything possible into holding the state House.  They cannot afford to get rolled in redistricting here again. 

Right now, with the investigation, and a probable off year backlash against the Democrats (even a very slight one), the PA House is gone.  It's a five seat margin, and factionalized.

Then why did Democrats pick up seats in 2008?  Also, in this blue state, Democratic House candidates can ask voters to elect them as a check on a likely Republican governor and control of redistricting. 

They won't care about redistricting.

The Dems picked up seats in 2008 because, well, it was 2008. You know that. And even then, the had a net gain of two seats. I'm not saying that a takeover is 100% certain but it's definitely in our favor.

Probably more than just "our favor."  There is another factor; the caucus has been divided for years.  There is guarantee that it will hold together without some defections.  This was the best environment the Democrats have had in PA since 1990.  It is doiubtful that the political climate will improve in 2010.

[Keystone Phil]

You also said Republicans would take over the state House in 2008.

Oh, darn. I was off by three seats. 

It's very hard to call State House races. Hopefully, everyone here will remember that.

And, as J.J. mentions, the State House Dems are quite divided and still have the burden of scandal to carry.

[Mr.Phips]

You also said Republicans would take over the state House in 2008.

Oh, darn. I was off by three seats. 

It's very hard to call State House races. Hopefully, everyone here will remember that.

And, as J.J. mentions, the State House Dems are quite divided and still have the burden of scandal to carry.

You were CERTAIN that Republicans would net House seats in PA.  I remember it clearly. 

[Keystone Phil]

You also said Republicans would take over the state House in 2008.

Oh, darn. I was off by three seats. 

It's very hard to call State House races. Hopefully, everyone here will remember that.

And, as J.J. mentions, the State House Dems are quite divided and still have the burden of scandal to carry.

You were CERTAIN that Republicans would net House seats in PA.  I remember it clearly. 

I was not certain. If you remember it so clearly, please find the posts.

[Mr.Phips]

You also said Republicans would take over the state House in 2008.

Oh, darn. I was off by three seats. 

It's very hard to call State House races. Hopefully, everyone here will remember that.

And, as J.J. mentions, the State House Dems are quite divided and still have the burden of scandal to carry.

You were CERTAIN that Republicans would net House seats in PA.  I remember it clearly. 

I was not certain. If you remember it so clearly, please find the posts.

No way I can find it, it would take me way too long.  I do remember you saying it.  I responded by saying that Democrats have a wealth of possible pickups in areas where Republicans still hold a lot of seats where they really should not anymore(Delaware, Bucks, Montgomery and now even Chester) that should be able to offset any Republican gains in the Western part of the state.