MN Sen Recount (UPDATE: Stuart Smalley certified winner, lawsuit forthcoming)

[Sam Spade]

It will be interesting to note how those ballots vote in comparison to Becker's certified results, which were Coleman 50, Franken 36, Barkley 13.

[Iosif]

What a mess.

I don't care either who wins, but I hope if comes down to a single vote.

[ChrisFromNJ]

Team Franken says they're down 84

Are they including challenges in this too?

i.e. Are they including the frivolous Coleman challenges that they know they'll get back in their count?

[Lunar]

Franken's measurement comes from what their election observers say the ruling was by the judge-person on election day and the obviously lame ones from both sides.  They have the accurate assumption that very few initial rulings will be overturned.

It will be interesting to note how those ballots vote in comparison to Becker's certified results, which were Coleman 50, Franken 36, Barkley 13.

It might have been 46 votes.

From precincts in the Lake Eunice and Spruce Grove townships.

[Sam Spade]

Franken's measurement comes from what their election observers say the ruling was by the judge-person on election day and the obviously lame ones from both sides.

It will be interesting to note how those ballots vote in comparison to Becker's certified results, which were Coleman 50, Franken 36, Barkley 13.

It might have been 46 votes.

From precincts in the Lake Eunice and Spruce Grove townships.

Lake Eunice:
Coleman 48, Franken 37, Barkley 13

Spruce Grove:
Coleman 54, Franken 32, Barkley 14

[Lunar]

This article seems to indicate that the 46 votes came from a discrepancy between election night and the recount:

http://www.dl-online.com/articles/index.cfm?id=39596&section=homepage

In that they noticed the numbers were too low from already-counted ballots, but not recounted ones.  Frantically searching around, officials found them.

[Sam Spade]

Franken's measurement comes from what their election observers say the ruling was by the judge-person on election day and the obviously lame ones from both sides.  They have the accurate assumption that very few initial rulings will be overturned.

I said the gap was *probably* 50-100 votes based on present SOS results.  If Coleman's lead according to SOS is 172, then the Franken statement would validate this observation.

Star-Tribune says St. Louis finished today.  Does this Franken statement include those results?  My guess is yes, but I want to make sure.

The numbers left in Hennepin should skew heavy Franken.  SOS says 71% is in, Star-Tribune says 81%.  Therein lies the best chance to gain votes from current numbers because the precincts left from Ramsey will be about 50-50 between Coleman and Franken.

Obviously, the remaining counties left skew Coleman.

[Sam Spade]

This article seems to indicate that the 46 votes came from a discrepancy between election night and the recount:

http://www.dl-online.com/articles/index.cfm?id=39596&section=homepage

In that they noticed the numbers were too low from already-counted ballots, but not recounted ones.  Frantically searching around, officials found them.

So, in other words, likely no net gain for anyone?

[Lunar]

Yes, that would be my intuition.  Assuming no funny business.

[Хahar 🤔]

Hooray for "finding"!

[Sam Spade]

Yes, that would be my intuition.  Assuming no funny business.

Well, as the numbers above indicate, "funny business" would probably go one way.

[Ronnie]

I've been out today, who has the advantage now?

Star Tribune reports that the Franken campaign has "found" several hundred missing ballots around the state

Sorry, I'm calling Bullshit here.

[The Mikado]

Star Tribune reports that the Franken campaign has "found" several hundred thousand missing ballots around the state

Fixed your post.

[Lunar]

lol 7-1

[quote]In Crystal, officials there say they have found eight absentee ballots, still sealed in their security envelopes, that had not been counted on Nov. 4. The ballots, which were subsequently included in the city's recount, increased Democrat Franken's total by seven votes and Republican Coleman's by one. The envelopes were discovered Friday night among opened envelopes, a city spokeswoman said.

[Sam Spade]

lol 7-1

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The eight wards of Crystal were:

Franken 45.67%, Coleman 35.56%, Other 18.87%.

Kind of ridiculous, but not exceptionally ridiculous.  5-2-1 would make more sense.  Eh, but who cares...

[© tweed]

lol 7-1

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I would like to see much more of this.

[ilikeverin]

lol 7-1

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The eight wards of Crystal were:

Franken 45.67%, Coleman 35.56%, Other 18.87%.

Kind of ridiculous, but not exceptionally ridiculous.  5-2-1 would make more sense.  Eh, but who cares...

p=0.3166... not even close to significant.

[Хahar 🤔]

I am very happy. We need more.

[Aizen]

I'm all for "funny business" but only if it will benefit Franken.

[Lunar]

I'm all for destroying democracy, but only when it benefits me!

What, you say that if such things become routinized, it could eventually hurt my wishes in a big way (Gore)?  No....

[© tweed]

I'm all for destroying democracy, but only when it benefits me!

What, you say that if such things become routinized, it could eventually hurt my wishes in a big way (Gore)?  No....

this would be retaliation for Gore

[ilikeverin]

There are many reasons why I want this election to be over, and the shrill partisanship of the Dems on this board in their love for Al Franken is certainly one of them.

[Sam Spade]

There are many reasons why I want this election to be over, and the shrill partisanship of the Dems on this board in their love for Al Franken is certainly one of them.

Wow.  Perhaps the first time you and I have agreed wholeheartedly on this one verin. 

I will post why once the recount is over. 

[© tweed]

There are many reasons why I want this election to be over, and the shrill partisanship of the Dems on this board in their love for Al Franken is certainly one of them.

I'm not a Dem and I don't like Al Franken too much (although I think the idea of Senator Franken is inherently entertaining).  I just hate Norm Coleman sooo much omgggg

[War on Want]

There are many reasons why I want this election to be over, and the shrill partisanship of the Dems on this board in their love for Al Franken is certainly one of them.

I'm not a Dem and I don't like Al Franken too much (although I think the idea of Senator Franken is inherently entertaining).  I just hate Norm Coleman sooo much omgggg