5 most likely people to become the 45th POTUS?

[RIP Robert H Bork]

Most likely: Huckabee
Romney
Jindal
Crist
Least likely: Biden

[Хahar 🤔]

This forum alone is starting to make me hate Mark Warner.

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[pragmatic liberal]

I've said it before and I'll say it again: I really don't think Mark Warner will ever be president.

Politicians don't just stay "fresh" for decades. People on this forum seem to always think that the major figures in 2020 are going to be the same people who are prominent today, as if they never age.

Maybe in India or France. Not in the U.S.

I wouldn't rule anything out, but it's more that likely that in 2016, most of the major prospective candidates on either side will be people who just won their first major race this year or are only going to win their first major race in two years, in 2010.

The 2010 class of governors may well supply some major candidates, especially from larger states: I plan to watch the governorships of Michigan, Illinois, Wisconsin, Pennsylvania and California.

[Nixon in '80]

I've said it before and I'll say it again: I really don't think Mark Warner will ever be president.

Politicians don't just stay "fresh" for decades. People on this forum seem to always think that the major figures in 2020 are going to be the same people who are prominent today, as if they never age.

Maybe in India or France. Not in the U.S.

I wouldn't rule anything out, but it's more that likely that in 2016, most of the major prospective candidates on either side will be people who just won their first major race this year or are only going to win their first major race in two years, in 2010.

The 2010 class of governors may well supply some major candidates, especially from larger states: I plan to watch the governorships of Michigan, Illinois, Wisconsin, Pennsylvania and California.

Sadly, I agree with you. Warner is this generation's Reubin O'Donovan Askew.

Fortunately for Warner, I don't think he really wants it in the first place. Had he run this year, I am fairly confident he would have won both the nomination and the Presidency, yet he didn't even form an exploratory committee.

I think if the nomination were dropped in his lap, he'd take it, but generally he's content to be Mark Warner, Obsession of Atlasians Everywhere.

[Psychic Octopus]

I've said it before and I'll say it again: I really don't think Mark Warner will ever be president.

Politicians don't just stay "fresh" for decades. People on this forum seem to always think that the major figures in 2020 are going to be the same people who are prominent today, as if they never age.

Maybe in India or France. Not in the U.S.

I wouldn't rule anything out, but it's more that likely that in 2016, most of the major prospective candidates on either side will be people who just won their first major race this year or are only going to win their first major race in two years, in 2010.


The 2010 class of governors may well supply some major candidates, especially from larger states: I plan to watch the governorships of Michigan, Illinois, Wisconsin, Pennsylvania and California.

true, that is true. But Warner isn't exactly "Prominent" Only Political hacks like us and Virginians Know about him.

[ShadowRocket]

To continue the trend of not-so-obvious names, what about Beau Biden, presuming that he wins the 2010 DE special election and is subsequently reelected in 2014?

[paul718]

To continue the trend of not-so-obvious names, what about Beau Biden, presuming that he wins the 2010 DE special election and is subsequently reelected in 2014?

I could definitely see that.

[Psychic Octopus]

To continue the trend of not-so-obvious names, what about Beau Biden, presuming that he wins the 2010 DE special election and is subsequently reelected in 2014?

I forgot about that guy. Yes he could be president. Definitely.

[Oh Jeremy Corbyn!]

1. Caroline Kennedy
2. Hilary Clinton
3. Joe Biden
4. Bobby Jindal
5. Lisa Madigan

[Mint]

My gut tells me Romney for some reason.

[Matt Damon™]

Isn't this a little early? Obama is only going to be the 43rd president so why speculation on 45?

[paul718]

Isn't this a little early? Obama is only going to be the 43rd president so why speculation on 45?

44th

[Matt Damon™]

Nope. 43rd.

[Holmes]

Let's just say... 44th president, but 43rd elected?

[paul718]

Let's just say... 44th president, but 43rd elected?

Yeah, what are you getting at Donut?

[Matt Damon™]

Any president selected by 9 justices and not the voters plus electoral college doesn't count.

[Keystone Phil]

Any president selected by 9 justices and not the voters plus electoral college doesn't count.

So if someone fairly wins the electoral vote but loses the popular vote, they still aren't the rightful President (even though the Constitution states otherwise)?

[Matt Damon™]

Yeah.

[Mr. Morden]

Any president selected by 9 justices and not the voters plus electoral college doesn't count.

Bush would still count anyway, since he was elected in 2004.

[paul718]

Any president selected by 9 justices and not the voters plus electoral college doesn't count.

So if someone fairly wins the electoral vote but loses the popular vote, they still aren't the rightful President (even though the Constitution states otherwise)?

Yeah.

John Quincy Adams won neither the popular nor electoral vote, yet you still count him as a legitimately elected President?

[Matt Damon™]

That's debateable. Had bush after he seized power not been an atrocious leader, and instead done good things I'd be more willing to grant ex-post facto legitimacy to his reign.

[Boris]

Any president selected by 9 justices and not the voters plus electoral college doesn't count.

So if someone fairly wins the electoral vote but loses the popular vote, they still aren't the rightful President (even though the Constitution states otherwise)?

I believe Straha views the Constitution as "unconstitutional" and "an illegal document."

[Matt Damon™]

That one was a fakepost.

[Neinrein]

Democratic:
Blanche Lincoln
Kay Hagan
Brad Henry
Phil Bredesen
Bill Nelson

Republican:
Haley Barbour
Mark Sanford
Pawlenty
The Republican that gets elected governor of Illinois in 2010
Tom Ridge

[Scam of God]

The Republican that gets elected governor of Illinois in 2010

Not happening.