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Lunar
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« on: November 03, 2008, 11:52:41 PM »

http://www.datamar.net/pdf/floridapg110408.pdf
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Lunar
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« Reply #1 on: November 03, 2008, 11:54:28 PM »


They've done a couple other polls.

reasonable result.
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« Reply #2 on: November 04, 2008, 12:01:12 AM »

How could looking at a poll help you determine an inherently unpollable variable?  Do explain.
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« Reply #3 on: November 04, 2008, 12:10:48 AM »

How could looking at a poll help you determine an inherently unpollable variable?  Do explain.

You look at the results and compare them with the polling.  I want to see if the poll is off and by how much.

For example, if Obama wins by within two points, we could conclude there wasn't a positive B.E.

If McCain wins by three points, we might be able to conclude there was a slight B.E.

What

Are you for real?
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Lunar
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« Reply #4 on: November 04, 2008, 12:18:18 AM »

So, you choose one of the worst polls available without a proven track record.

Then, if it's relatively pro-Obama, then it's simply statistical variation.

But if it's relatively pro-McCain, but within the same MoE then "omg it's because people won't admit they won't vote for the black man?"

MoE only matters when it doesn't reinforce your pre-existing theories?

I want to say a lot of cuss words right now but I'm restraining myself.


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Lunar
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« Reply #5 on: November 04, 2008, 01:44:31 AM »

and the only reason the polls could be off is because of race.

nothing else matters


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Lunar
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« Reply #6 on: November 04, 2008, 12:12:16 PM »

But Democrats largely overpolled in many states that year.  You need to subtract other error due to other variables before you isolate your own, you should know that.  Feinstein overpolled by just as much as anyone else.  If Feingold did too (I don't know what his year was) we couldn't conclude an anti-Jewish bias, would we?
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