Mideast Assembly Thread

[Swedish Rainbow Capitalist Cheese]

Just a thought?  Shouldnt the amendment be worded with "recall" not "impeachment," since impeachment is never mentioned in the constitution, only recalls are?  Furthermore, impeachment implies legal wrongdoing.  Recall doesn't.

Inks I appreciate that you read through the bills and point out the mistakes you find in them, especially when it comes to mistake in wording and language since a respectable portion of the assembly has a native language that isn't English... but WHY do you always do it after the vote has already started?

 

The better question is, why do you have to open voting on bills on days that I'm in Detroit watching Central Michigan win the MAC championship? 

Hmm that is a fair question I guess

Good for you  that your team won Mr Governor.

I'd like to hear what my fellow Assemblymen says before I make decission wether to stop the vote on this bill or not.

[Badger]

May I offer this slightly modified version without further parlimentary ado? I added the word recall and left in impeachment just in case if there is determined a constitutional mechanism for such procedure. If there isn't, the language is mere surplusage and does no harm.

Recent events have demonstrated the need for this amendment to the Mideast Constitution. When a lawsuit is filed, there should be no issue of politics--or accusation of politics--in having to select a justice to hear the case. Nor should there be a delay of several days to a week or more to make the determination of the judge to try the case. (no criticism of Governor Inks' handling of the current case--he handled it as expeditiously as could be expected, but why put a governor through that every time there's a lawsuit filed?).

Therefore:

THE MIDEAST CONSISTENCY IN THE ADMINISTRATION OF JUSTICE ACT

Article II, Section 2, Paragraph 3 of the Mideast Constitution is amended FROM:

"3.A nomination to the Superior Court shall only be held in the event of a need for the adjudication of a case pertaining to Mideast law within the Mideast region. The justice's tenure shall last only as long as needed to resolve the case at hand."

TO:

"3. A nomination to the Superior Court, unless terminated early by resignation, recall, or impeachment, shall be subject to reconfirmation by majority vote of the Mideastern Assembly every third session of the Assembly after initial confirmation. Should the Assembly fail to take a vote on renomination of the Superior Court Judge during the session in which the judge is normally subject to reconfirmation, it will act as if the Judge is reconfirmed accordingly. "

The second sentence is added just in case there is a busy session and no one thinks to bring the judge(s) of the Superior Court up for a reconfirmation vote (and if there hasn't been any activity in the Court, that's all too likely a scenario), the Judge will not be automatically out of a job due to the Assembly's oversight. If there is cause for concern about a Judge's performance it will surely be brought up at the session at which the judge is due for reconfirmation.

[Queen Mum Inks.LWC]

But impeachment implies that he can be removed by a legislative body.  Why not just keep it at "resignation or recall" and add in impeachment if we ever establish impeachment in the Constitution?

[big bad fab]

But impeachment implies that he can be removed by a legislative body.  Why not just keep it at "resignation or recall" and add in impeachment if we ever establish impeachment in the Constitution?

I agree with our Governor on this. Let's stick with the current "reality".

[Badger]

Fine.

May I offer this slightly modified version without further parlimentary ado? I added the word recall and left in impeachment just in case if there is determined a constitutional mechanism for such procedure. If there isn't, the language is mere surplusage and does no harm.

Recent events have demonstrated the need for this amendment to the Mideast Constitution. When a lawsuit is filed, there should be no issue of politics--or accusation of politics--in having to select a justice to hear the case. Nor should there be a delay of several days to a week or more to make the determination of the judge to try the case. (no criticism of Governor Inks' handling of the current case--he handled it as expeditiously as could be expected, but why put a governor through that every time there's a lawsuit filed?).

Therefore:

THE MIDEAST CONSISTENCY IN THE ADMINISTRATION OF JUSTICE ACT

Article II, Section 2, Paragraph 3 of the Mideast Constitution is amended FROM:

"3.A nomination to the Superior Court shall only be held in the event of a need for the adjudication of a case pertaining to Mideast law within the Mideast region. The justice's tenure shall last only as long as needed to resolve the case at hand."

TO:

"3. A nomination to the Superior Court, unless terminated early by resignation or recall, or impeachment shall be subject to reconfirmation by majority vote of the Mideastern Assembly every third session of the Assembly after initial confirmation. Should the Assembly fail to take a vote on renomination of the Superior Court Judge during the session in which the judge is normally subject to reconfirmation, it will act as if the Judge is reconfirmed accordingly. "

The second sentence is added just in case there is a busy session and no one thinks to bring the judge(s) of the Superior Court up for a reconfirmation vote (and if there hasn't been any activity in the Court, that's all too likely a scenario), the Judge will not be automatically out of a job due to the Assembly's oversight. If there is cause for concern about a Judge's performance it will surely be brought up at the session at which the judge is due for reconfirmation.

[RIP Robert H Bork]

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How come that last paragraph is there?

[Badger]

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How come that last paragraph is there?

That's not part of the bill, but rather an explanation for the second sentence of the bill.

[RIP Robert H Bork]

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How come that last paragraph is there?

That's not part of the bill, but rather an explanation for the second sentence of the bill.

Yes but the way it's written makes me think it's part of the bill.

[Badger]

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How come that last paragraph is there?

That's not part of the bill, but rather an explanation for the second sentence of the bill.

Yes but the way it's written makes me think it's part of the bill.

It's not. I promise. :-)

[RIP Robert H Bork]

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How come that last paragraph is there?

That's not part of the bill, but rather an explanation for the second sentence of the bill.

Yes but the way it's written makes me think it's part of the bill.

It's not. I promise. :-)

Oh, ok.

[Queen Mum Inks.LWC]

Not to rush you guys, but if you can finish the vote on this by Wednesday night, I'd appreciate it.

[big bad fab]

Our Speaker may resubmit it with the new word and without the last paragraph.

I'll vote AYE almost immediately.

And has anybody news from Gio ?
Even though we can keep on working, it's a bit embarrassing, as his political positioning may well decide some votes one way or the other !
Therefore I don't push and push my Reviewing Bill again.
Therefore I don't make any new proposal.

[Badger]

Aye.

Finals time is getting a lot of people, methinks.

[RIP Robert H Bork]

Me, I will save my vote until Swedish Cheese opens it up. I think the two of you will need to do likewise; are votes cast on a bill valid even if the vote is not yet opened?

[big bad fab]

Our Speaker may resubmit it with the new word and without the last paragraph.

I'll vote AYE almost immediately.

And has anybody news from Gio ?
Even though we can keep on working, it's a bit embarrassing, as his political positioning may well decide some votes one way or the other !
Therefore I don't push and push my Reviewing Bill again.
Therefore I don't make any new proposal.

Please note the future !
I'm waiting for the vote to open on the right version.

[RIP Robert H Bork]

Oh, forgot that.

Though Badger still did vote.

[Badger]

Oh, forgot that.

Though Badger still did vote.

My bad. I read Fab's post too quickly, saw the AYE in there, and chaos ensued.

Mr. Speaker? We're all set here.....

[RIP Robert H Bork]

*bump*

Still nothing from Swedish Cheese.

By the way I intend to introduce some legislation by the time we are done with this one.

[Badger]

*bump*

Still nothing from Swedish Cheese.

By the way I intend to introduce some legislation by the time we are done with this one.

This is very unlike him. Hope it's just a case of finalsitis and not anything more serious.

Still no word from Gio either?

[big bad fab]

Dear Speaker,
My fellow Assemblymen,

I hereby resign from my position of Mideast Assemblyman.

As I've said to our Governor, I'm sorry to say this so abruptly, even if there were some signs...

But a mix of personal and Atlasian reasons have led me to crush my intent of sticking to my word and finishing my term.

I hope you will forgive me. I'm not very proud of this but I'm so disappointed of Atlasia that I wasn't able to keep on.

I wish you the best in your fine legislative work.

Feel free to bring back my Reviewing Laws bill and updated versions of my amendments on private property and right to life.

It was a great thing to work with you to try to improve the legal environment of our great Mideast.

Yours friendly.

Big Bad Fab

[Swedish Rainbow Capitalist Cheese]

Oh sorry guys. This just slipped from my attention. Voting for the amended version is herby opened.


BBF I'm really sorry to see you go. You've been a great Assemblyman, and in your time here you've done a lot for the Mideast as a legislator.



 

[Badger]

Aye.

Good to see you back, Mr. Speaker. :-) Was your absence the last week a case of finals?

[Queen Mum Inks.LWC]

Can somebody get ahold of Giovanni - what is the e-mail address he wants his activation code sent to?

[Queen Mum Inks.LWC]

Could somebody with some free time please get me Giovanni's e-mail address?

[Devilman88]

Oh sorry guys. This just slipped from my attention. Voting for the amended version is herby opened.


BBF I'm really sorry to see you go. You've been a great Assemblyman, and in your time here you've done a lot for the Mideast as a legislator.



 

Aye