Mideast Assembly Thread

[Queen Mum Inks.LWC]

I'll be introducing a bill after Friday, when the new session starts, to fix an error in the election statute (there's an issue with how we break ties in Assembly elections that I noticed - back when we fixed the voting laws after we expanded the Assembly, we overlooked regulations on how we break ties, and stopped tie-breakers at 3 Assemblymen, and it needs to be extended to 5).  I don't feel like rushing it through this Assembly, and I've got a few exams this week, so I'll probably just let us sit here as a lame duck Assembly and essentially take the rest of the week off.

[Queen Mum Inks.LWC]

I hereby adjourn the 10th session of the Assembly.  All business of the 10th session is hereby dismissed.

[California8429]

When do we swear in?

[tmthforu94]

When do we swear in?

I just sent you instructions via pm. Let me know if you have any more questions, and I'll be glad to help.

[Queen Mum Inks.LWC]

OK - I guess I'll just head up the Assembly until we elect a Speaker... the 11th Session of the Assembly is now in session.  Please swear yourselves in.  Nominations for Speaker will now be excepted, and nominations will last for 48 hours.

[Kaine for Senate '18]

Technically, Inks, as Dean, I'm supposed to do this, but it all works out in the end.

On that point, I nominate Inks to be the next Speaker.

[California8429]

Technically, Inks, as Dean, I'm supposed to do this, but it all works out in the end.

On that point, I nominate Inks to be the next Speaker.

second that

[Queen Mum Inks.LWC]

Technically, Inks, as Dean, I'm supposed to do this, but it all works out in the end.

On that point, I nominate Inks to be the next Speaker.

Yeah - I was gonna let the Dean do it, but I couldn't remember who that was, but was too lazy to look it up, so figured I'd do it (that, and we really don't have very strict rules of procedure)... anyway, I'll accept the nomination.

[Queen Mum Inks.LWC]

I'll be working on an infrastructure bill this week, and I'd like to introduce toll roads and bridges to help pay for the construction projects as well as reduce the deficit in the future.

[HappyWarrior]

I'm looking forward to it Inks.

[California8429]

I'll be working on an infrastructure bill this week, and I'd like to introduce toll roads and bridges to help pay for the construction projects as well as reduce the deficit in the future.

how about HOV lanes that must be paid for single person usage

[big bad fab]

Sorry for being a bit late, my fellow Assemblymen. The previous session was exhausting

I'm glad to see that our Speaker will keep on presiding our debates.
I welcome our new members, A-Bob and HappyWarrior, who will be fine Assemblymen, Im' sure of it.

[Queen Mum Inks.LWC]

Considering the fact that I am one of those who was hit severely hard by the recent forum problems, I am putting the recess in Assembly until Mr. Leip fixes the problem.

[Queen Mum Inks.LWC]

I'm a bit tied up with other things right now - if somebody has something they'd like to introduce, now would be an ideal time to do it.

[Kaine for Senate '18]

The Return of Rhetoric Bill

Article I: All students grades 9-12 in public schools in the Mideast shall be required to take at least three years of debate and speech classes.
Article II: All schools in the Mideast that currently offer debate and speech classes will receive a 5% tax exemption from the Mideastern Government for the upcoming tax year.
Article III: All schools that cannot afford to have debate and speech classes will receive a subsidy from the Mideastern Government to hire teachers and buy supplies.
Article IV: Those funds will be paid for by reducing the amount the Mideast spends on education vouchers.
Article V: This bill will go into effect with the 2010-2011 school year.

[tmthforu94]

The Return of Rhetoric Bill

Article I: All students grades 9-12 in public schools in the Mideast shall be required to take at least three years of debate and speech classes.
Article II: All schools in the Mideast that currently offer debate and speech classes will receive a 5% tax exemption from the Mideastern Government for the upcoming tax year.
Article III: All schools that cannot afford to have debate and speech classes will receive a subsidy from the Mideastern Government to hire teachers and buy supplies.
Article IV: Those funds will be paid for by reducing the amount the Mideast spends on education vouchers.
Article V: This bill will go into effect with the 2010-2011 school year.

Really, Ben?

[Kaine for Senate '18]

Really, Ben?

The skills learned in debate and speech (research, logic, public speaking, etc) are invaluable in the adult world.  Students should learn these skills early, so they can use them in adulthood.

[California8429]

Really, Ben?

The skills learned in debate and speech (research, logic, public speaking, etc) are invaluable in the adult world.  Students should learn these skills early, so they can use them in adulthood.

but three years in return for denying kids the opportunity to escape failing schools? Maybe a semester or one year I would consider voting for it, but three years. It's not like students don't debate in other classes as well

[HappyWarrior]

I'd support making it a possible elective I think.

[tmthforu94]

Really, Ben?

The skills learned in debate and speech (research, logic, public speaking, etc) are invaluable in the adult world.  Students should learn these skills early, so they can use them in adulthood.

A lot of different things could fall under that category. For some kids, though, actually, for many kids, it will be of no use. Students in the Mideast already have quite a few required classes, and heaping another one on top of that, a class that isn't needed nearly as much as Science or Math, would give students less choice on which classes they would like to take.

[HappyWarrior]

Following Ben's bill I would like to introduce this bill

  A RESOLUTION CONCERNING
    INVASIVE SPECIES-NEED FOR A STUDY IN THE Mideast Region
  WHEREAS:  For the purpose of conducting research into the dangers of invasive species in the Mideast Region.
  WHEREAS: Invasive or “alien” species have been proven to have an adverse effect in ecosystems in many cases including deaths of native species and damage to the regional economy
 WHEREAS: Species which are at present problems or may become problems include Snakehead Fish, Grass Carp, Nutria, Imported Fire Ants, Japanese Beetles, and various snakes.
BE IT RESOLVED: The Mideast Assembly shall hereby commission a study into the dangers 100 posed by various species which are invasive and alien to the Mideast region.  This study will be to look into which species pose the most danger and what the Mideast Region may do about it.

[California8429]

Following Ben's bill I would like to introduce this bill

  A RESOLUTION CONCERNING
    INVASIVE SPECIES-NEED FOR A STUDY IN THE Mideast Region
  WHEREAS:  For the purpose of conducting research into the dangers of invasive species in the Mideast Region.
  WHEREAS: Invasive or “alien” species have been proven to have an adverse effect in ecosystems in many cases including deaths of native species and damage to the regional economy
 WHEREAS: Species which are at present problems or may become problems include Snakehead Fish, Grass Carp, Nutria, Imported Fire Ants, Japanese Beetles, and various snakes.
BE IT RESOLVED: The Mideast Assembly shall hereby commission a study into the dangers 100 posed by various species which are invasive and alien to the Mideast region.  This study will be to look into which species pose the most danger and what the Mideast Region may do about it.

cost for this?

[HappyWarrior]

Following Ben's bill I would like to introduce this bill

  A RESOLUTION CONCERNING
    INVASIVE SPECIES-NEED FOR A STUDY IN THE Mideast Region
  WHEREAS:  For the purpose of conducting research into the dangers of invasive species in the Mideast Region.
  WHEREAS: Invasive or “alien” species have been proven to have an adverse effect in ecosystems in many cases including deaths of native species and damage to the regional economy
 WHEREAS: Species which are at present problems or may become problems include Snakehead Fish, Grass Carp, Nutria, Imported Fire Ants, Japanese Beetles, and various snakes.
BE IT RESOLVED: The Mideast Assembly shall hereby commission a study into the dangers 100 posed by various species which are invasive and alien to the Mideast region.  This study will be to look into which species pose the most danger and what the Mideast Region may do about it.

cost for this?

Likely very low, it is not a huge expenditiure.  Meanwhile some invasive species cost a huge amount of money in terms of lost production.  For instance the Kudzu plant costs $500 million dollars in lost agriculture in the nation anually, this being a rough estimate.

[big bad fab]

The Return of Rhetoric Bill

Article I: All students grades 9-12 in public schools in the Mideast shall be required to take at least three years of debate and speech classes.
Article II: All schools in the Mideast that currently offer debate and speech classes will receive a 5% tax exemption from the Mideastern Government for the upcoming tax year.
Article III: All schools that cannot afford to have debate and speech classes will receive a subsidy from the Mideastern Government to hire teachers and buy supplies.
Article IV: Those funds will be paid for by reducing the amount the Mideast spends on education vouchers.
Article V: This bill will go into effect with the 2010-2011 school year.

A 5% tax exemption is completely insane, to be honest.
Additional subsidies just for this while knowledge in languages and mathematics are in a very bad shape cannot be accepted.
Diminishing vouchers, which have a wide and principled basis, just for paying for one specific skill cannot be accepted either.

Well, it seems as if I completely disagree on this bill, sorry my fellow Assemblyman

[Swedish Rainbow Capitalist Cheese]

The Return of Rhetoric Bill

Article I: All students grades 9-12 in public schools in the Mideast shall be required to take at least three years of debate and speech classes.
Article II: All schools in the Mideast that currently offer debate and speech classes will receive a 5% tax exemption from the Mideastern Government for the upcoming tax year.
Article III: All schools that cannot afford to have debate and speech classes will receive a subsidy from the Mideastern Government to hire teachers and buy supplies.
Article IV: Those funds will be paid for by reducing the amount the Mideast spends on education vouchers.
Article V: This bill will go into effect with the 2010-2011 school year.

Wouldn't a reasonable compromise be to require debate and speech be included as an element in already mandatory English classes, as we have it in Sweden, where debate and speech is a part of Swedish class?

I completely agree with you Ben on the virtues of debate and speech, and the knowledge you gain from it, but to make it a recuried subject for three years seems a bit excessive to me.

Also I have to agree with this:   

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