ABC Poll: Biden has stronger favorables than Palin & is seen as more experienced

[Eraserhead]

I'm not somewhere where I can post a link but I just saw this on Hardball.

UPDATE: Here is the link.

http://abcnews.go.com/PollingUnit/story?id=5725793&page=1

[Swing low, sweet chariot. Comin' for to carry me home.]

But Sarah is a better shot

[Beet]

Only Scott Rasmussen (R) is allowed to do polls, especially ones with headlines like "29% think Hillary is a bitch!!!! Meanwhile, 65% do not."

[Hash]

More experienced? NO WAY.

[ChrisFromNJ]

Only Scott Rasmussen (R) is allowed to do polls, especially ones with headlines like "29% think Hillary is a bitch!!!! Meanwhile, 65% do not."

Glad I am not the only person who thinks that Scott Rasmussen is a right-wing hack.

Join the club!

[Eraserhead]

I believe the favorability numbers were...

Palin

Favorable 50%
Palin 37%

Biden

Favorable 54%
Unfavorable 30%


Then they asked if they were "experienced enough to serve as President"...

Palin

Yes 42%
No 50%

Biden

Yes 66%
No 21%

[King]

I saw the poll this morning.  It's interesting stuff, but major network polls can't be trusted.

With all the resources they have, if I were the President of NBC/CBS/ABC, I'd try to purchase a small, but respectable polling firm with good methodology like Rasmussen or SurveyUSA and put serious money into it during an election year.  Could you imagine the ratings boost an evening news broadcast would get if the CBS-Rasmussen polling division were to release a 50 state weekly tracking poll every Monday?

[Fmr. Pres. Duke]

LOL

YOu guys are really, really desperate right now. You have no reason to be, as your guy is still leading. But when you all begin to argue ABC News polls are more accurate than Rasmussen, a proven leader in polling accuracy, something is wrong in liberal-land.

[Hash]

TV network polls are awful. Like the Radio-Canada thingee that gave the Tories a 9-point lead in Ontario.

[Umengus]

I believe the favorability numbers were...

Palin

Favorable 50%
Palin 37%

Biden

Favorable 54%
Unfavorable 30%


Then they asked if they were "experienced enough to serve as President"...

Palin

Yes 42%
No 50%

Biden

Yes 66%
No 21%

lol

For president, change counts. For VP, experience. And why not the opposite ? the opposite is better. I prefer an experimented president with a young VP.

[Beet]

I am not saying Rasmussen accurate or inaccurate.

However, in all seriousness, I think Rasmussen has the tendency to be biased in poll selection and result report wording.

For example, before Palin's speech, when she was faced with a lot of negative press, they did a poll asking whether people thought "the media was trying to hurt her". 51% replied yes. But after Palin's speech, which was praised in the media heavily, Rasmussen did not do the same poll to see if people thought the media were trying to help her.

Furthermore the poll headline reads:
"51% Say Reporters Are Trying To Hurt Palin; 39% Say She Has Better Experience Than Obama"

And within the body of the report the 39% number is again repeated. It is not until after this that we find out that 49% thought Biden had the better experience. So why highlight the 39% over the 49%?

The networks or Gallup do not do this as far as I can tell. Only Rasmussen does. I could mention more examples, but these two are representative.

[Alcon]

For president, change counts. For VP, experience. And why not the opposite ? the opposite is better. I prefer an experimented president with a young VP.

Actually, if you look historically, the Change/Experience ticket is much more traditional -- believe it or not.

[ChrisFromNJ]

I am not saying Rasmussen accurate or inaccurate.

However, in all seriousness, I think Rasmussen has the tendency to be biased in poll selection and result report wording.

For example, before Palin's speech, when she was faced with a lot of negative press, they did a poll asking whether people thought "the media was trying to hurt her". 51% replied yes. But after Palin's speech, which was praised in the media heavily, Rasmussen did not do the same poll to see if people thought the media were trying to help her.

Furthermore the poll headline reads:
"51% Say Reporters Are Trying To Hurt Palin; 39% Say She Has Better Experience Than Obama"

And within the body of the report the 39% number is again repeated. It is not until after this that we find out that 49% thought Biden had the better experience. So why highlight the 39% over the 49%?

The networks or Gallup do not do this as far as I can tell. Only Rasmussen does. I could mention more examples, but these two are representative.

And just look at the writers that Rasmussen features on his website. Virtually are all from the far right.

[Beet]

I am not saying Rasmussen accurate or inaccurate.

However, in all seriousness, I think Rasmussen has the tendency to be biased in poll selection and result report wording.

For example, before Palin's speech, when she was faced with a lot of negative press, they did a poll asking whether people thought "the media was trying to hurt her". 51% replied yes. But after Palin's speech, which was praised in the media heavily, Rasmussen did not do the same poll to see if people thought the media were trying to help her.

Furthermore the poll headline reads:
"51% Say Reporters Are Trying To Hurt Palin; 39% Say She Has Better Experience Than Obama"

And within the body of the report the 39% number is again repeated. It is not until after this that we find out that 49% thought Biden had the better experience. So why highlight the 39% over the 49%?

The networks or Gallup do not do this as far as I can tell. Only Rasmussen does. I could mention more examples, but these two are representative.

And just look at the writers that Rasmussen features on his website. Virtually are all from the far right.

And one of the non-right wingers, Susan Estrich, is also one of Fox News's non-right wingers.

[Brittain33]

LOL

YOu guys are really, really desperate right now. You have no reason to be, as your guy is still leading. But when you all begin to argue ABC News polls are more accurate than Rasmussen, a proven leader in polling accuracy, something is wrong in liberal-land.

I agree. People are going to see this as another instance of the media beating up on Sweet Sarah Palin. Once again, my side is completely blowing the election by allowing the media to report poll results on Biden's favorability.

[ChrisFromNJ]

Am I the only guy who couldn't give less of a **** about favorables and unfavorables?

[Nym90]

Biden is more experienced than Palin? I thought 36 years in the Senate was far less experience than 2 years as Governor.

[Nym90]

I am not saying Rasmussen accurate or inaccurate.

However, in all seriousness, I think Rasmussen has the tendency to be biased in poll selection and result report wording.

For example, before Palin's speech, when she was faced with a lot of negative press, they did a poll asking whether people thought "the media was trying to hurt her". 51% replied yes. But after Palin's speech, which was praised in the media heavily, Rasmussen did not do the same poll to see if people thought the media were trying to help her.

Furthermore the poll headline reads:
"51% Say Reporters Are Trying To Hurt Palin; 39% Say She Has Better Experience Than Obama"

And within the body of the report the 39% number is again repeated. It is not until after this that we find out that 49% thought Biden had the better experience. So why highlight the 39% over the 49%?

The networks or Gallup do not do this as far as I can tell. Only Rasmussen does. I could mention more examples, but these two are representative.

Rasmussen is a Republican. His polls are great and not biased, but his reporting certainly is.

[Beet]

The scariest thing is that 39% of voters think Palin has more experience than Biden.

[agcatter]

Imagine that "rightwing hack" pollster nailing the 04 election and then the 06 senate races.

I suppose he just makes his numbers up as he goes.

[J. J.]

LOL

YOu guys are really, really desperate right now. You have no reason to be, as your guy is still leading. But when you all begin to argue ABC News polls are more accurate than Rasmussen, a proven leader in polling accuracy, something is wrong in liberal-land.

I agree. People are going to see this as another instance of the media beating up on Sweet Sarah Palin. Once again, my side is completely blowing the election by allowing the media to report poll results on Biden's favorability.

Please put "Sweet Sarah Palin" in quotes.

[Nym90]

Imagine that "rightwing hack" pollster nailing the 04 election and then the 06 senate races.

I suppose he just makes his numbers up as he goes.

If someone in this thread was actually saying that, you might have a point.

[Wiz in Wis]

For president, change counts. For VP, experience. And why not the opposite ? the opposite is better. I prefer an experimented president with a young VP.

Actually, if you look historically, the Change/Experience ticket is much more traditional -- believe it or not.

LIES!!!

except for

Kennedy-Johnson
Reagan-Bush
Lincoln-Johnson


In fact, experience - change has produced some stinkers... Kerry - Edwards and Mondale - Ferraro come to mind.

[Dan the Roman]

I don't think anyone, even here has seriously contested that Biden probably has a lot more national experience than Palin or would make a better President in January. However, neither is running for President. So this polls only major use is to find that some people might potentially have problems with voting McCain because of his age and Palin's lack of preparedness. Yet all we can do is speculate because pollsters are not asking that specific question, which is really the only impact the VP picks may have.

[Small Business Owner of Any Repute]

Just to note: In addition to Rasmussen, SurveyUSA has also shown Palin with a considerable favorability edge over Biden.