More action to stop illegal entry

[CARLHAYDEN]

Reservation ban of water for migrants is reported
By Brady McCombs
Arizona Daily Star
Tucson, Arizona | Published: 09.03.2008

A Tohono O'odham tribe member who has been putting water in remote desert areas for the past seven years for the benefit of illegal immigrants says he has been told to stop.
The order was given Saturday morning while Mike Wilson was southwest of Sells on the reservation showing 11 non-tribal guests one of the four water stations he operates, Wilson said.

A Tohono O'odham police officer approached Wilson and said the district chairwoman, Veronica Harvey, had instructed her to tell Wilson to take down the water station and escort his guests off the reservation, Wilson said. He didn't take down the two 55-gallon water barrels but left with his guests, he said.

The tribe has a standing decision not to allow humanitarian groups to place water on the reservation. Norris, who became chairman after that decision was made, has said the decision falls to the reservation's 11 districts because it's a matter of local concern. He said the same thing about the reported decision to ask Wilson and his guests to leave on Saturday.

"The tribal constitution authorizes each district to govern themselves on issues of local concern," Norris said. "This, in their view, is an issue of local concern."

[Chief Justice PiT]

     Good. We don't need people aiding & abetting criminals.

[GMantis]

An interesting approach - the idea is probably that the bodies of those who died by thirst will deter other immigrants. A worthy solution for the Greatest Country in the World.

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"Illegal immigrant" probably means something quite different to the Native Americans than those of us whose ancestors came over in the last few hundred years from the Old World.

[dead0man]

Is it better to kill people with apathy while they try and break into a country or shoot them in the back with malice when they try and leave?

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Is it better to kill people with apathy while they try and break into a country or shoot them in the back with malice when they try and leave?

If you are referring to those border guards my question is. Why were they punished for doing the right thing?

"Illegal immigrant" probably means something quite different to the Native Americans than those of us whose ancestors came over in the last few hundred years from the Old World.

The Native Americans never had a sovereign nation.

[dead0man]

Is it better to kill people with apathy while they try and break into a country or shoot them in the back with malice when they try and leave?

If you are referring to those border guards my question is. Why were they punished for doing the right thing?

Oh God no!  I was thinking more like Soviet Russia, the Berlin Wall, that kind of thing.  I'd rather live in a country people are willing to die trying to get into versus living in a country where people are willing to die to try and leave.  Any country that must keep it's people in by gun point is clearly doing something wrong.  Keeping people out at gun point can be understood, it's not always right, but it can be understood.  Keeping people in at gun point is always wrong.

(and by "people" here I mean regular citizens.  Not criminals, not those in the act of committing a crime, those people have lost some of the rights the rest of us should have.)

[NDN]

     Good. We don't need people aiding & abetting criminals.

Eh, I'm hardly in favor of amnesty or any of that but ensuring they'll die in the desert is a bit much.

[dead0man]

Maybe they should find another way to break into our country?  One less dangerous?  Or I've got an even better idea, lets bring MORE of them across legally, enough to work all the fields that need to be worked, legally!  If it makes the price of lettuce at the grocery store to go up 5%, then who cares.  That's the price it should be.  It totally sucks that people die trying to get here, but giving them bowls of water in the desert to lap up is just acknowledging that we treat these people like dogs.  Even the ones on "their side".  Especially the ones on "their side".  If we want to give these people a fair shake, we've got to force our politicians to get more workers here legally.  It's obvious we're starving for labor in this country.  The unemployment rate in this country must be near 2%....


what?

[Mesu]

This is a terrible policy that no nation should ever be able to enforce.

Here is what Mike Wilson had to say about this last year:

http://bsnorrell.tripod.com/id61.html

[NDN]

Maybe they should find another way to break into our country?  One less dangerous?  Or I've got an even better idea, lets bring MORE of them across legally, enough to work all the fields that need to be worked, legally!  If it makes the price of lettuce at the grocery store to go up 5%, then who cares.  That's the price it should be.  It totally sucks that people die trying to get here, but giving them bowls of water in the desert to lap up is just acknowledging that we treat these people like dogs.  Even the ones on "their side".  Especially the ones on "their side".  If we want to give these people a fair shake, we've got to force our politicians to get more workers here legally.  It's obvious we're starving for labor in this country.  The unemployment rate in this country must be near 2%....


what?

The difference is that it's just individuals (or in this case, one individual) putting out bowls of water for humanitarian reasons. They're not smuggling them into the country or leading them here, which should by all means be not only illegal but dealt with more severely than now. And any of the ones they catch should of course be deported, none of this crap about a 'path to citizenship' or automatic amnesty after they managed to hide here for X amount of years.

Of course they can pass any law they want, I just think it's a step too far for once.