Illegal immigrants returning to home nations in record numbers

[frihetsivrare]

Illegal Immigrants Returning to Mexico in Record Numbers
Friday, August 22, 2008

By Kris Gutierrez

DALLAS —  Illegal immigrants are returning home to Mexico in numbers not seen for decades — and the Mexican government may have to deal with a crush on its social services and lower wages once the immigrants arrive.

The Mexican Consulate's office in Dallas is seeing increasing numbers of Mexican nationals requesting paperwork to go home for good, especially parents who want to know what documentation they'll need to enroll their children in Mexican schools.

"Those numbers have increased percentage-wise tremendously," said Enrique Hubbard, the Mexican consul general in Dallas. "In fact, it's almost 100 percent more this year than it was the previous two years."

The illegal immigrant population in the U.S. has dropped 11 percent since August of last year, according to the Center for Immigration Studies. Its research shows 1.3 million illegal immigrants have returned to their home countries.

Some say illegal immigrants are leaving because a soft economy has led to fewer jobs, causing many laborers to seek work elsewhere.

Others argue that a tough stance on immigration through law enforcement has spread fear throughout the illegal population.

"There's no question there's a variety of suggestions that people are in fact returning," said Mark Krikorian, executive director of the Center for Immigration Studies. "Remittances, which is the money immigrants send home to Mexico, have gone down dramatically over the past year. Again, probably part the economy, but also part enforcement, leading to fewer people being here."

Advocates for immigrants are disturbed by the trend. Albert Ruiz, an organizer for the League of United Latin American Citizens, agrees that more undocumented immigrants are going home — but says families are being torn apart in the process.

If a father is deported, Ruiz says, his family members in America are forced either to fend for themselves or follow him to a country where they've never even lived.

"So the mother is saying we should return home with the breadwinner of the family to Mexico, and the children are saying, I don't want to leave, I'm a U.S. citizen, I don't know that country," said Ruiz.

Mexican President Felipe Calderon plans to help returning nationals by providing food, medical care and temporary shelter if needed. But reports are already out in Mexico that the large number of illegal immigrants returning home could drive down wages and put pressure on social services — the same concerns many Americans have with illegals living and working in the U.S.

[dead0man]

I love how the "advocates for immigrants" are still mad.  It makes no sense!

[phk]

Illegal Immigrants Returning to Mexico in Record Numbers
Friday, August 22, 2008

By Kris Gutierrez

DALLAS —  Illegal immigrants are returning home to Mexico in numbers not seen for decades — and the Mexican government may have to deal with a crush on its social services and lower wages once the immigrants arrive.

The Mexican Consulate's office in Dallas is seeing increasing numbers of Mexican nationals requesting paperwork to go home for good, especially parents who want to know what documentation they'll need to enroll their children in Mexican schools.

"Those numbers have increased percentage-wise tremendously," said Enrique Hubbard, the Mexican consul general in Dallas. "In fact, it's almost 100 percent more this year than it was the previous two years."

The illegal immigrant population in the U.S. has dropped 11 percent since August of last year, according to the Center for Immigration Studies. Its research shows 1.3 million illegal immigrants have returned to their home countries.

Some say illegal immigrants are leaving because a soft economy has led to fewer jobs, causing many laborers to seek work elsewhere.

Others argue that a tough stance on immigration through law enforcement has spread fear throughout the illegal population.

"There's no question there's a variety of suggestions that people are in fact returning," said Mark Krikorian, executive director of the Center for Immigration Studies. "Remittances, which is the money immigrants send home to Mexico, have gone down dramatically over the past year. Again, probably part the economy, but also part enforcement, leading to fewer people being here."

Advocates for immigrants are disturbed by the trend. Albert Ruiz, an organizer for the League of United Latin American Citizens, agrees that more undocumented immigrants are going home — but says families are being torn apart in the process.

If a father is deported, Ruiz says, his family members in America are forced either to fend for themselves or follow him to a country where they've never even lived.

"So the mother is saying we should return home with the breadwinner of the family to Mexico, and the children are saying, I don't want to leave, I'm a U.S. citizen, I don't know that country," said Ruiz.

Mexican President Felipe Calderon plans to help returning nationals by providing food, medical care and temporary shelter if needed. But reports are already out in Mexico that the large number of illegal immigrants returning home could drive down wages and put pressure on social services — the same concerns many Americans have with illegals living and working in the U.S.

Perfect recipe for keeping immigrants out. A bad economy.

[minionofmidas]

This is 95%plus the economy.

[JohnFKennedy]

I think Carl just came.

[Queen Mum Inks.LWC]

I love how the "advocates for immigrants" are still mad.  It makes no sense!

Well they should be.  Where's a good 'ole illegal immigrant supposed to get help these days?  The  U.S. economy sucks, and we don't have nationalized health care.  Mexico's economy sucks.  Canadian naitonalized health care sucks.  These immigrants might have to go back to where they came from and live a **gasp** normal life!

People - living in America is not some worldly right, it's a privilege.  If we invited everybody who's poor in the world to live here, America would crumble, and then we couldn't help anybody.

This news story marks a great day for America.

[Chief Justice PiT]

I love how the "advocates for immigrants" are still mad.  It makes no sense!

Well they should be.  Where's a good 'ole illegal immigrant supposed to get help these days?  The  U.S. economy sucks, and we don't have nationalized health care.  Mexico's economy sucks.  Canadian naitonalized health care sucks.  These immigrants might have to go back to where they came from and live a **gasp** normal life!

People - living in America is not some worldly right, it's a privilege.  If we invited everybody who's poor in the world to live here, America would crumble, and then we couldn't help anybody.

This news story marks a great day for America.

     I think you're on to something there. We don't want all the underprivileged of the world here since they'll just reduce the standard of living for all those who were privileged to live in the United States. Too bad Obama & McCain both wish to damage the quality of life of those who are productive citizens of the United States.

[Queen Mum Inks.LWC]

I love how the "advocates for immigrants" are still mad.  It makes no sense!

Well they should be.  Where's a good 'ole illegal immigrant supposed to get help these days?  The  U.S. economy sucks, and we don't have nationalized health care.  Mexico's economy sucks.  Canadian naitonalized health care sucks.  These immigrants might have to go back to where they came from and live a **gasp** normal life!

People - living in America is not some worldly right, it's a privilege.  If we invited everybody who's poor in the world to live here, America would crumble, and then we couldn't help anybody.

This news story marks a great day for America.

     I think you're on to something there. We don't want all the underprivileged of the world here since they'll just reduce the standard of living for all those who were privileged to live in the United States. Too bad Obama & McCain both wish to damage the quality of life of those who are productive citizens of the United States.

It's not that I don't want all hte underprivileged of the world here.  I'd love everybody to have at least a middle class life, but I realize that that cannot happen if we are to maintain a functional economy and  country.

[Chief Justice PiT]

I love how the "advocates for immigrants" are still mad.  It makes no sense!

Well they should be.  Where's a good 'ole illegal immigrant supposed to get help these days?  The  U.S. economy sucks, and we don't have nationalized health care.  Mexico's economy sucks.  Canadian naitonalized health care sucks.  These immigrants might have to go back to where they came from and live a **gasp** normal life!

People - living in America is not some worldly right, it's a privilege.  If we invited everybody who's poor in the world to live here, America would crumble, and then we couldn't help anybody.

This news story marks a great day for America.

     I think you're on to something there. We don't want all the underprivileged of the world here since they'll just reduce the standard of living for all those who were privileged to live in the United States. Too bad Obama & McCain both wish to damage the quality of life of those who are productive citizens of the United States.

It's not that I don't want all hte underprivileged of the world here.  I'd love everybody to have at least a middle class life, but I realize that that cannot happen if we are to maintain a functional economy and  country.

     Indeed, my point was that we don't want them here because everyone would become underprivileged in that event.

     Sort of reminds me of how true communism is a terrible idea because it needlessly punishes the more intelligent & more able. Interesting that such a fundamentally anti-intellectualist movement was conceived by an intellectual like Marx.

     Um, sorry to go off on a tangent like that.

[Stranger in a strange land]

This is 95%plus the economy.

[Queen Mum Inks.LWC]

I love how the "advocates for immigrants" are still mad.  It makes no sense!

Well they should be.  Where's a good 'ole illegal immigrant supposed to get help these days?  The  U.S. economy sucks, and we don't have nationalized health care.  Mexico's economy sucks.  Canadian naitonalized health care sucks.  These immigrants might have to go back to where they came from and live a **gasp** normal life!

People - living in America is not some worldly right, it's a privilege.  If we invited everybody who's poor in the world to live here, America would crumble, and then we couldn't help anybody.

This news story marks a great day for America.

     I think you're on to something there. We don't want all the underprivileged of the world here since they'll just reduce the standard of living for all those who were privileged to live in the United States. Too bad Obama & McCain both wish to damage the quality of life of those who are productive citizens of the United States.

It's not that I don't want all hte underprivileged of the world here.  I'd love everybody to have at least a middle class life, but I realize that that cannot happen if we are to maintain a functional economy and  country.

     Indeed, my point was that we don't want them here because everyone would become underprivileged in that event.

     Sort of reminds me of how true communism is a terrible idea because it needlessly punishes the more intelligent & more able. Interesting that such a fundamentally anti-intellectualist movement was conceived by an intellectual like Marx.

     Um, sorry to go off on a tangent like that.

In theory, communism is a great form of government.  But Marx didn't factor in the selfishness and laziness of people.

[Chief Justice PiT]

I love how the "advocates for immigrants" are still mad.  It makes no sense!

Well they should be.  Where's a good 'ole illegal immigrant supposed to get help these days?  The  U.S. economy sucks, and we don't have nationalized health care.  Mexico's economy sucks.  Canadian naitonalized health care sucks.  These immigrants might have to go back to where they came from and live a **gasp** normal life!

People - living in America is not some worldly right, it's a privilege.  If we invited everybody who's poor in the world to live here, America would crumble, and then we couldn't help anybody.

This news story marks a great day for America.

     I think you're on to something there. We don't want all the underprivileged of the world here since they'll just reduce the standard of living for all those who were privileged to live in the United States. Too bad Obama & McCain both wish to damage the quality of life of those who are productive citizens of the United States.

It's not that I don't want all hte underprivileged of the world here.  I'd love everybody to have at least a middle class life, but I realize that that cannot happen if we are to maintain a functional economy and  country.

     Indeed, my point was that we don't want them here because everyone would become underprivileged in that event.

     Sort of reminds me of how true communism is a terrible idea because it needlessly punishes the more intelligent & more able. Interesting that such a fundamentally anti-intellectualist movement was conceived by an intellectual like Marx.

     Um, sorry to go off on a tangent like that.

In theory, communism is a great form of government.  But Marx didn't factor in the selfishness and laziness of people.

     Communism is also, in theory & in practice, discriminatory against intellectuals. The selfishness & laziness of people is just another reason communism is objectionable.

[Verily]

This is 95%plus the economy.

Agreed. No more housing boom means a lot fewer jobs for unskilled laborers in Nevada, Arizona, California.