Back when opposition to the Constitution was more open

[A18]

1788 Election of Delegates to the New York Ratification Convention

Federalist versus Anti-Federalist averages; red: Anti-Federalist, green: Federalist.

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The western boundary of New York wasn't defined yet. Charlotte county theoretically stretched to the Pacific.

[12th Doctor]

What can I say, other than its a good thing we didn't listen to those hicks.

[Torie]

It looks like it may have been a Dutch versus Yankee thing. I suspect Queens was still heavily Dutch then. Suffolk was settled by Connecticut Yankees. The upstream Hudson Valley was also probably still heavily Dutch.

[TommyC1776]

This is real neat.

[bullmoose88]

Any PA Maps on this?

[Kaine for Senate '18]

What about VA?

[War on Want]

To Torie it really isn't Dutch vs Yankee as much as it was Rural vs Urban or Farmers vs Merchant class. Really the Dutch vs Yankee divide is only a small factor.

[Хahar 🤔]

I like the county map. I've been waiting to see one of these (with the big Queens County) for a while. Now if i could just find an old California map...

[J. J.]

Western PA actually rebelled in the 1790's.

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I like the county map. I've been waiting to see one of these (with the big Queens County) for a while. Now if i could just find an old California map...

http://www.joincalifornia.com/page/8

[A18]

Any PA Maps on this?

What about VA?

I hope to eventually do other states, but for now, it's just New York.

[Verily]

To Torie it really isn't Dutch vs Yankee as much as it was Rural vs Urban or Farmers vs Merchant class. Really the Dutch vs Yankee divide is only a small factor.

More importantly, there weren't many Dutch by this point. At least, even from the beginning, the Dutch colonies had very large Huguenot and English populations. Parts of Queens were probably still Dutch, but the rural areas upstate were all settled mostly by English settlers (at least outside of Albany and Troy).

[minionofmidas]

To Torie it really isn't Dutch vs Yankee as much as it was Rural vs Urban or Farmers vs Merchant class. Really the Dutch vs Yankee divide is only a small factor.

More importantly, there weren't many Dutch by this point. At least, even from the beginning, the Dutch colonies had very large Huguenot and English populations. Parts of Queens were probably still Dutch, but the rural areas upstate were all settled mostly by English settlers (at least outside of Albany and Troy).

Few if any English in New York upstream from Kingstown back then. Lots of Scots and Northern Irish, though.

[Verily]

To Torie it really isn't Dutch vs Yankee as much as it was Rural vs Urban or Farmers vs Merchant class. Really the Dutch vs Yankee divide is only a small factor.

More importantly, there weren't many Dutch by this point. At least, even from the beginning, the Dutch colonies had very large Huguenot and English populations. Parts of Queens were probably still Dutch, but the rural areas upstate were all settled mostly by English settlers (at least outside of Albany and Troy).

Few if any English in New York upstream from Kingstown back then. Lots of Scots and Northern Irish, though.

Same difference

At least, they weren't Dutch.

[War on Want]

To Torie it really isn't Dutch vs Yankee as much as it was Rural vs Urban or Farmers vs Merchant class. Really the Dutch vs Yankee divide is only a small factor.

More importantly, there weren't many Dutch by this point. At least, even from the beginning, the Dutch colonies had very large Huguenot and English populations. Parts of Queens were probably still Dutch, but the rural areas upstate were all settled mostly by English settlers (at least outside of Albany and Troy).

Few if any English in New York upstream from Kingstown back then. Lots of Scots and Northern Irish, though.

This actually was a big part of the cultural divide. Scots and Northern Irish of course did not like an interfering federal government.