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« on: August 02, 2008, 02:22:31 AM »
« edited: August 02, 2008, 02:26:45 AM by Fmr. Chairman, Fmr. Governor, & Queen Mum Inks.LWC »

Sorry if this is the wrong board, but it's the closest I could think of, since it doesn't really fit into Off-topic.

A blog post I just did.  If you saw the movie, comment on it:

Alright, so tonight I saw Swing Vote.  I liked it.  Although it had a LOT of swearing (which added some humor at times, but was a little over the top at others), I’d give it a 9 out of 10.

First, we’ll look at how the election could’ve happened (spoiler alert - I eventually get into details, and a few things about the ending):

The movie shows a hypothetical race where the Republican, President Andrew “Andy” Boone (Kelsey Grammer - a real Republican), has received 267 Electoral Votes, and the Democrat, Donald Greenleaf (Dennis Hopper), has received 266 Electoral Votes.  New Mexico (5 EVs) is tied, and Bud Johnson has to cast the tie vote (perfect electronic ballots, and his machine was unplugged.  But actually, his daughter tried to vote for him, so he never should’ve voted in the first place, and NM’s EVs would’ve been split with 2.5 going to each, and Boone would’ve won).  Here’s a possible map:



Boone in red, Greenleaf in blue.  New Mexico is tied, and it’s never revealed how Bud votes.

Now, on to the characters:

Don Greenleaf (Dennis Hopper) is essentially McCain as a Democrat.  Here’s some similarities:

His slogan is “Greenleaf Express,” similar to the “Straight Talk Express.”
In the beginning part, he says something that kinda makes him sound like a senile old man (you have to admit, McCain doesn’t always sound with it).
His mannerisms, holding his arms up sometimes when he speaks, and the way he talks, mimics McCain somewhat.
He switches from being pro-illegal immigrant to anti-illegal immigrant (and does a HILARIOUS campaign ad against the Republican, showing a bunch of immigrants running across a field).
He switches from being pro-choice to pro-life (ok, McCain’s been MOSTLY pro-life, but it still applies).
Martin Fox, Boone’s campaign manager (Stanley Tucci), is Karl Rove.  Here are some similarities:

At the beginning, he’s talking about strategies involving getting religious voters out to vote.
He’s shown as somewhat of a do-what-we-must-to-win kind of guy.
He’s won all 7 elections he’s worked on.
He kinda resembles him physically, with the bald head.
President Andrew Boone (Kelsey Grammer) doesn’t resemble anybody in particular, but toward the beginning of the movie, he talks about whoever controls the Nuclear Football as being the most important issue, and talks about the dangers of North Korea.  It portrays him as being a stereotypical Republican War Hawk.  It’s probably the most stereotypical moment in the film.

Both Fox and Art Crumb (Nathan Lane), Greenleaf’s campaign manager, are shown as trying to manipulate Bud Johnson, and having their candidates switch their stances on issues just to get his vote.  It differs from the movie where the politicians are the evil liars, and makes the campaign managers the “bad guys.”  Although both candidates flip-flop on various issues to appeal to Bud, they ultimately turn good and realize what they were doing was wrong, ticking off their campaign managers.

One other stereotype was John Sweeney (George Lopez), the local FOX news reporter, is shown as just wanting to get massive media attention, and FOX is mocked a couple of other times throughout the movie.

Overall, I enjoyed the movie.  It was fair and balance, and made fun of both sides, and shows them ultimately realizing their wrongs.

The movie never shows how Bud Johnson votes, but that could be a bonus part of the DVD.

So, now that I’ve ruined the plot for you, go out and see it!
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« Reply #1 on: August 02, 2008, 02:38:35 AM »

Republican hack movie. Obviously VA, NC, MT and Georgia should all be tied up or won by the Democrat. Roll Eyes
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« Reply #2 on: August 02, 2008, 02:44:11 AM »

Republican hack movie. Obviously VA, NC, MT and Georgia should all be tied up or won by the Democrat. Roll Eyes

I said could've happened - that's just numbers I tried to get to fit (it's 2004, but flip CO and NV).
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« Reply #3 on: August 02, 2008, 09:28:31 AM »

Wrong colours.
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« Reply #4 on: August 02, 2008, 09:57:36 AM »

Completely unrealistic - there's no way any competent NM elections official would let the race end up in a tie without adding a few graveyard votes for good measure to make sure the outcome came out right.
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« Reply #5 on: August 02, 2008, 05:33:26 PM »

This movie looks absolutely awful. That's all I have to say on the matter.
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« Reply #6 on: August 02, 2008, 05:42:34 PM »

This movie looks absolutely awful. That's all I have to say on the matter.

38% on rottentomatoes. which is a whopping 28 percentage points higher than The Mummy 3's score.
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« Reply #7 on: August 02, 2008, 07:17:25 PM »

And 56% lower than THE DARK KNIGHT Wink
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« Reply #8 on: August 02, 2008, 07:21:06 PM »

In that case, wouldn't the New Mexico Secretary of State auction off the election?
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« Reply #9 on: August 02, 2008, 08:28:45 PM »


I originally did it on my blog, and if I did it with the right colors, I'd confuse the entire rest of the world who reads it.
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« Reply #10 on: August 02, 2008, 08:33:02 PM »


I originally did it on my blog, and if I did it with the right colors, I'd confuse the entire rest of the world who reads it.

Fix your readers.
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« Reply #11 on: August 02, 2008, 10:33:54 PM »

The concept of this movie is so insanely contrived. So basically under the movie's premise, there is no recount, no lawsuits and attempts to purge voters from the rolls, etc.? Everyone just accepted the tie and sat back and let Kevin Costner break it? Ha!

The no recount itself is already ridiculous.
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« Reply #12 on: August 02, 2008, 11:45:15 PM »

The concept of this movie is so insanely contrived. So basically under the movie's premise, there is no recount, no lawsuits and attempts to purge voters from the rolls, etc.? Everyone just accepted the tie and sat back and let Kevin Costner break it? Ha!

The no recount itself is already ridiculous.

I know, but they set it up with electronic voting machines, so I think you're supposed to assume they're error-proof, except in Costner's situation, because it gets unplugged.
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« Reply #13 on: August 04, 2008, 01:38:29 AM »

I'm not at all interested in this film.
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« Reply #14 on: August 04, 2008, 02:49:18 AM »

I saw some ads where the Republican embraced gay's and the Democrat denounced abortion (or some simmilar type of bible-thumping), so wouldn't the map've turned out a wee bit different?
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« Reply #15 on: August 04, 2008, 03:11:00 AM »

I saw some ads where the Republican embraced gay's and the Democrat denounced abortion (or some simmilar type of bible-thumping), so wouldn't the map've turned out a wee bit different?

     In that case, I can say immediately West Virginia would be a more likely flip than Nevada. Aside from that, it's hard to tell. New Hampshire should probably flip as well.

     Also, if I recall correctly, New Mexico state law says that a tie would be broken by a game of chance agreed upon by the candidates. For the record, of course.
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« Reply #16 on: August 05, 2008, 12:50:17 AM »

I saw some ads where the Republican embraced gay's and the Democrat denounced abortion (or some simmilar type of bible-thumping), so wouldn't the map've turned out a wee bit different?

That all happens after everyboy except Bud voted.
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« Reply #17 on: August 05, 2008, 01:20:02 AM »

Yeah. Seriously. This is probably a more accurate description



Probably more accurate Tongue
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« Reply #18 on: August 05, 2008, 01:21:37 AM »

I saw some ads where the Republican embraced gay's and the Democrat denounced abortion (or some simmilar type of bible-thumping), so wouldn't the map've turned out a wee bit different?

That all happens after everyboy except Bud voted.

Oh. I see. LOL.
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