More needless traffic injuries

[CARLHAYDEN]

I am constantly amazed by the ignorant stereotyping so many advocates of amnesty have about illegal entrants.

They seem to think most illegal entrants are "Juan Valdez" clones, who trudge through the desert wearing a sombrero, sandals and serape.

Truth is, most are driven across the border, which is why there is such a strong demand for vehicle barriers rather than towers or fences.

Here's one example.

14 illegal immigrants in minivan
By Alexis Huicochea, Eric Swedlund and Brady McCombs
arizona daily star
Tucson, Arizona | Published: 07.25.2008

A minivan packed with illegal immigrants rolled Thursday on Interstate 10, causing a series of collisions. The accidents injured at least 18 people, five of whom remain hospitalized in critical condition.

The chain of wrecks on Tucson's Southeast Side began at about 11:30 a.m. near Houghton Road and closed the westbound lanes of I-10 for more than three hours. Three people were taken by helicopter to Tucson hospitals. About 50 firefighters and paramedics were dispatched to treat the injured.

Department of Public Safety officers began an investigation that could take as long as two weeks, authorities said.

The driver of the minivan lost control when a tire blew out, said DPS Officer Carmen Figueroa, and several people were seen running from the vehicle just after it rolled. The Mexican Consulate in Tucson confirmed the van was traveling with 14 illegal immigrants from Mexico, with at least 11 injured.

The rollover was followed by collisions involving five other vehicles and injuring at least five other people, Figueroa said.

A vehicle driven by Clyde Nakasone, 46, was the first to be hit in the series of collisions, he said. Someone clipped the rear passenger side of his car.

"I looked up into the rear- view mirror and saw a van flipping over behind me," he said.
The Tucson Fire Department established a field triage system that identified nine patients as the most seriously injured, said fire Capt. Norm Carlton.

Three of those patients were transported by helicopter, and the other six were taken by ambulance. Three other patients were also taken to hospitals with unspecified injuries. Four others received minor injuries.

In addition to those 16, two men who fled from the minivan were found injured in the desert, said DPS Officer Quent Mehr.

TMC had three patients from the collisions who were treated and released, said hospital spokesman Mike Letson.

The conditions of others hurt in the crashes were unknown.

[Iosif is a COTHO]

Robert Novak just hit a pedestrian with his car. I propose we deport all people with the surname Novak.

[CARLHAYDEN]

Robert Novak just hit a pedestrian with his car. I propose we deport all people with the surname Novak.

Mongo,

You can suppose all you want, but you might try following the law (I know that might be difficult for you).

Oh, and wouldn't it have been better if the illegal entrants in the case cited had never entered the country?

Or, are you one of those sickos who approve of illegal entry and don't give a damn how many people are injured or killed by those actions?

[Iosif is a COTHO]

No, I think it's as silly as damning the mother of someone whose car ran into you, for bringing them into the world.

You can be as opposed to illegal immigration all you want, but isn't a reason to. It's not like they were speeding away from police or anything, their tyre blew out. Plenty of legal immigrants have traffic accidents too.

[Sbane]

HAHAHAHA blaming illegals for getting into crashes now? It happens to the best of us you know. I think you are slacking Carl, I know you can do better.

[CARLHAYDEN]

HAHAHAHA blaming illegals for getting into crashes now? It happens to the best of us you know. I think you are slacking Carl, I know you can do better.

Typical of an amnesty supporter.

No concern whatsoever for those who were injured and may die.

Oh, and not suprised you didn't understand the lead in to the article, about the myth of illegal trudging across the border.

[Sbane]

HAHAHAHA blaming illegals for getting into crashes now? It happens to the best of us you know. I think you are slacking Carl, I know you can do better.

Typical of an amnesty supporter.

No concern whatsoever for those who were injured and may die.

Oh, and not suprised you didn't understand the lead in to the article, about the myth of illegal trudging across the border.

UHH ok I have seen enought minivans and suburbans full of mexicans to know how they get here. But what exactly is you point? Immigrants cannot get into accidents? If you mean to say that the guy should have been licensed then you are right. They should have been admitted into this country LEGALLY and should have been licensed LEGALLY and then it would have been all good. Of course the accident would have still happened but whatever. Oh and I am all for vehicle barriers if that was your point.

[??????????]

I feel you Carl. We have the same issues here. Illegals, who barely speak the language, often have no car insurance. I've known people that have been TBoned and seriously injured when one of these jokers runs a stop sign and then flees the scene. The people here may give you grief for discussing the issue but us folks in states that are getting overrun are going through the same things.

[7,052,770]

Robert Novak just hit a pedestrian with his car. I propose we deport all people with the surname Novak.

Mongo,

You can suppose all you want, but you might try following the law (I know that might be difficult for you).

Oh, and wouldn't it have been better if the illegal entrants in the case cited had never entered the country?

Or, are you one of those sickos who approve of illegal entry and don't give a damn how many people are injured or killed by those actions?

what about cases where illegal immigrants save lives?
It works both ways ya know

[Sensei]

HAHAHAHA blaming illegals for getting into crashes now? It happens to the best of us you know. I think you are slacking Carl, I know you can do better.

Typical of an amnesty supporter.

No concern whatsoever for those who were injured and may die.

Oh, and not suprised you didn't understand the lead in to the article, about the myth of illegal trudging across the border.

where's the concern for people killed in accidents where white people, or black people, or Asians, or Native Americans are at fault?

[Chief Justice PiT]

HAHAHAHA blaming illegals for getting into crashes now? It happens to the best of us you know. I think you are slacking Carl, I know you can do better.

Typical of an amnesty supporter.

No concern whatsoever for those who were injured and may die.

Oh, and not suprised you didn't understand the lead in to the article, about the myth of illegal trudging across the border.

where's the concern for people killed in accidents where white people, or black people, or Asians, or Native Americans are at fault?

     As StatesRights pointed out, with legal residents & citizens, they have insurance & can be tracked down relatively easily (at least almost all the time). With illegal aliens, that's not the case.

[AkSaber]

I don't think Carl is saying that all illegals cause accidents and hurt people. I think what he's getting at is that if your politicians obeyed immigration law, the injured people wouldn't be injured.

[NDN]

I don't think Carl is saying that all illegals cause accidents and hurt people. I think what he's getting at is that if your politicians obeyed immigration law, the injured people wouldn't be injured.

RACIST.

[AkSaber]

I don't think Carl is saying that all illegals cause accidents and hurt people. I think what he's getting at is that if your politicians obeyed immigration law, the injured people wouldn't be injured.

RACIST.

Eeeek!!! How did you find out?! Don't tell anyone, pretty please.

[Ebowed]

If you want illegal aliens to get car insurance, legalize their immigration status.  </common sense>

[??????????]

If you want illegal aliens to get car insurance, legalize their immigration status.  </common sense>

We already have the processes in place to do that. It's those that are coming here that are failing to do the right thing.

[Torie]

Government by omission allowing illegals to work but not to drive, doesn't make much sense does it?

[Ebowed]

If you want illegal aliens to get car insurance, legalize their immigration status.  </common sense>

We already have the processes in place to do that. It's those that are coming here that are failing to do the right thing.

Why would an illegal immigrant get car insurance when it increases their risk of getting deported?

[??????????]

If you want illegal aliens to get car insurance, legalize their immigration status.  </common sense>

We already have the processes in place to do that. It's those that are coming here that are failing to do the right thing.

Why would an illegal immigrant get car insurance when it increases their risk of getting deported?

That's not the statement I'm answering you on.

[CARLHAYDEN]

I don't think Carl is saying that all illegals cause accidents and hurt people. I think what he's getting at is that if your politicians obeyed immigration law, the injured people wouldn't be injured.

Exactly!

Lefties have problems understanding this.

[Хahar 🤔]

If you want illegal aliens to get car insurance, legalize their immigration status.  </common sense>

We already have the processes in place to do that. It's those that are coming here that are failing to do the right thing.

The vast majority would do the right thing if it was possible, but the immigration process is so ridiculously long and bureaucratic that many people don't have the time. I've experienced it firsthand. The parents of many of my friends are struggling to get a green card. And they're educated and highly skilled. Imagine how difficult it is for unskilled workers.

[7,052,770]

Robert Novak just hit a pedestrian with his car. I propose we deport all people with the surname Novak.

Mongo,

You can suppose all you want, but you might try following the law (I know that might be difficult for you).

Oh, and wouldn't it have been better if the illegal entrants in the case cited had never entered the country?

Or, are you one of those sickos who approve of illegal entry and don't give a damn how many people are injured or killed by those actions?

what about cases where illegal immigrants save lives?
It works both ways ya know

^^^^

The fact that no one replied to my post shows that no one has an answer.