Adolf Hitler vs. Joseph Stalin

[Robespierre's Jaw]

Adolf Hitler vs. Joseph Stalin

I wonder how DWTL would vote in this matchup between Hitler and Stalin? If he supports Hitler over Chavez, one can only assume that boy from New Jersey will vote for Hitler easily.

[Kaine for Senate '18]

Stalin/Stalin

[DownWithTheLeft]

Hitler/Hitler didn't have to blink

[War on Want]

This is pretty much a"Who should I vote for, so I won't get killed poll?" Minorities/Leftists/Gays/Jews would vote for Stalin, while most of the upper class, and rich would vote for Hitler.

[Sasquatch]

I assume Hitler would be the Republican and Stalin the Democrat. I would love to watch this campaign unfold in a bomb proof underground bunker.

Stalin/Stalin.

[The Mikado]

In the American system, it would (theoretically) be difficult to accomplish much of their agendas. Hitler had far more experience in rallying the people to support his agenda than Stalin (whose specialty was essentially intraparty bureaucratic infighting), so I'd pick Stalin because he'd be a less effective leader.

[RosettaStoned]

Stalin all the way!

[perdedor]

Stalin/Stalin.

If we are talking about an American election, people are significantly less informed in regards to Stalin's atrocities than Hiter's thus leading him to a victory. It's really a choice between two authoritarians...one just happens to be more fiscally liberal than the other, and thus gets my vote.

[Ronnie]

Stalin is the lesser of two evils...literally.

[Stranger in a strange land]

I'd get out of the country as fast as possible, but if you put a gun to my head I'd pick Stalin.

[Хahar 🤔]

Hitler/Stalin

Hitler did wonders for the German economy. Stalin ran the Russian economy into the ground. Plus, under Hitler, I'd have a chance to get out.

[Associate Justice PiT]

     If you asked me three years ago, I would have said Hitler since my odds of surviving his regime would be better. However, I've met a lot of Jewish people who I consider good friends in the mean time.

     With that in mind, I would vote from the rooftops with a .50 caliber Barret.

[??????????]

Stalin is the lesser of two evils...literally.

So killing 20 million is less evil then killing maybe 8 million?

[Хahar 🤔]

Stalin is the lesser of two evils...literally.

So killing 20 million is less evil then killing maybe 8 million?

It is when that 8 million has been way overdramatized vis-à-vis the 20 million.

[2952-0-0]

I'll be one of the first to be sent to camps under Hitler, so I'll go with Stalin.

Though for sure Hitler's rallies and speeches will assure him a landslide.

[War on Want]

I voted Stalin because I would obviously have a better time with him as Premier. I would probably vote Hitler if I was white and more centrist but me being both a minority and an very outspoken liberal means I would be screwed under Hitler.

[Filuwaúrdjan]

I'm a member of a Union, a democratic Socialist party and have a Jewish surname. So I'm screwed either way.

However... I'm also technically disabled, have several hereditary medical conditions and so on... (one of which happens to be much more common with Ashkenazi Jews than with the rest of the population... so pointing out that none of my Grandparents were Jewish might just get me marked down as trying to commit fraud)...

So it has to be Stalin, I guess.

Though I'd much rather get the hell out of whatever fantasy country I happen to be living in.

[Filuwaúrdjan]

Hitler did wonders for the German economy.

Myth. The entire economy was rigged up (oh, that's rigged in both possible senses of the word in this context, actually...) to enable a quick rearmament programme. The economy was boiling over by the late '30's and would have likely collapsed in some way had it not been for the war. But as there was no chance of there not being a war with that lot in charge, that's an entirely academic point.

Studies have also shown that ordinary people didn't actually benefit much from the economic "boom" (especially in terms of wages and so on... IIRC one showed that working class wages fell, in real terms, during that period), though how much stock you want to put into them is up to you, of course.

In any case, the name you're looking for here (ie; the man who came up with the mefo scam) is Schacht, not Hitler.

[Filuwaúrdjan]

so I'd pick Stalin because he'd be a less effective leader.

It would actually be difficult to find a less effective leader than Adolf "I wake up at 3pm" Hitler...

[Filuwaúrdjan]

With that in mind, I would vote from the rooftops with a .50 caliber Barret.

So you choose certain death either way then.

[Filuwaúrdjan]

Stalin is the lesser of two evils...literally.

So killing 20 million is less evil then killing maybe 8 million?

It is when that 8 million has been way overdramatized vis-à-vis the 20 million.

Where are these figurs of 20 and 8 million coming from? Total deaths in Europe during the Second World War were far, far, far higher than 8 million (Christ, in Soviet territory alone it was, IIRC, more than double that...) and the total number of victims of Stalinism were, probably, higher than 20 million (though this is debated and will be for ever more as accurate figures just don't exist). If the Holocaust is being referred to, then the total number of Jews murdered was probably slightly under 6 million. And in any case I would dispute that the total number of deaths can be used as a proxy for "who was worse". The Holocaust, for example, was a uniquely evil act and would have been so even if "only" 3 million, 1 million, a hundred thousand... or whatever, had been murdered. And saying that the Holocaust was a uniquely evil act (and it was) is not saying that other acts around the same period in history were not evil.

[minionofmidas]

Son of an alcoholic shoemaker and a woman born and raised a slave, or son of a small official and his niece... hm. I think I'll go with the son of a slave.

[Associate Justice PiT]

With that in mind, I would vote from the rooftops with a .50 caliber Barret.

So you choose certain death either way then.

     I figure it would be worth it to get rid of a genocidal dictator. Not to mention I would wait until after the election to make sure I got the right one.

[Filuwaúrdjan]

With that in mind, I would vote from the rooftops with a .50 caliber Barret.

So you choose certain death either way then.

     I figure it would be worth it to get rid of a genocidal dictator. Not to mention I would wait until after the election to make sure I got the right one.

But you wouldn't get rid of either. You'd be killed or dragged off (to be killed later) before you'd even get close.

[Associate Justice PiT]

With that in mind, I would vote from the rooftops with a .50 caliber Barret.

So you choose certain death either way then.

     I figure it would be worth it to get rid of a genocidal dictator. Not to mention I would wait until after the election to make sure I got the right one.

But you wouldn't get rid of either. You'd be killed or dragged off (to be killed later) before you'd even get close.

     A Barret can't be hidden effectively now that I think about it. I guess there's always hoofing it to Canada & hiding in the Northwest Territories.