are roadside, random sobreity checks unconstitutional?

[© tweed]

     Agreed. Anyway, I spoke to my mother about this & she agreed that roadside sobriety checks are perfectly constitutional.

I am glad that we have now heard from the final authority on this issue.

[Associate Justice PiT]

     Agreed. Anyway, I spoke to my mother about this & she agreed that roadside sobriety checks are perfectly constitutional.

I am glad that we have now heard from the final authority on this issue.

     My mother's been a lwayer for 34 years. I put a little stock into what she says.

[Ebowed]

Yes.  If there's nothing suspicious about the driving, the police have no right to check.

[??????????]

Yes.  If there's nothing suspicious about the driving, the police have no right to check.

That goes back to the whole issue of the licensing aspect of motor vehicle operation.

[TomC]

http://www.law.cornell.edu/supct/html/historics/USSC_CR_0496_0444_ZS.html

The Court says it's OK.

[??????????]

http://www.law.cornell.edu/supct/html/historics/USSC_CR_0496_0444_ZS.html

The Court says it's OK.

If vehicles and drivers were not required to be licensed their may be a valid argument.

[Franzl]

Yes.  If there's nothing suspicious about the driving, the police have no right to check.

That goes back to the whole issue of the licensing aspect of motor vehicle operation.

Yes, that's true. I agree.

[© tweed]

http://www.law.cornell.edu/supct/html/historics/USSC_CR_0496_0444_ZS.html

The Court says it's OK.

If vehicles and drivers were not required to be licensed their may be a valid argument.

but, again, if the driver is unlicensed, can he refuse to be breathalyzed?

[Franzl]

http://www.law.cornell.edu/supct/html/historics/USSC_CR_0496_0444_ZS.html

The Court says it's OK.

If vehicles and drivers were not required to be licensed their may be a valid argument.

but, again, if the driver is unlicensed, can he refuse to be breathalyzed?

If the driver is unlicensed....well...at least he'll get punished for driving without a license

[© tweed]

http://www.law.cornell.edu/supct/html/historics/USSC_CR_0496_0444_ZS.html

The Court says it's OK.

If vehicles and drivers were not required to be licensed their may be a valid argument.

but, again, if the driver is unlicensed, can he refuse to be breathalyzed?

If the driver is unlicensed....well...at least he'll get punished for driving without a license

yes.  but that doesn't answer the question

[I spent the winter writing songs about getting better]

Has anyone answered the question as to WHY it's good policy? The police can either spend their finite amount of time:

1-Pulling over people driving in a manner that appears drunk.
2-Pulling over people at random.

Now which is more likely to net more drunk drivers? Duh. This is a no-brainer.

So no, it doesn't save lives (though that's irrelevant as Tweed says.) It's a very very stupid and moronic policy, though apparently states now realize that as I've never seen it.

[TomC]

I think I could kinda go so far to say it's good policy if it is used to get these drivers simply off the road. But any evidence obtained by "searching" the contents of one's body without just cause should not be admissible in a prosecution against them.

[??????????]

http://www.law.cornell.edu/supct/html/historics/USSC_CR_0496_0444_ZS.html

The Court says it's OK.

If vehicles and drivers were not required to be licensed their may be a valid argument.

but, again, if the driver is unlicensed, can he refuse to be breathalyzed?

He would be violating the law in the first place and therefore would lose his share of rights in the matter.

[© tweed]

http://www.law.cornell.edu/supct/html/historics/USSC_CR_0496_0444_ZS.html

The Court says it's OK.

If vehicles and drivers were not required to be licensed their may be a valid argument.

but, again, if the driver is unlicensed, can he refuse to be breathalyzed?

He would be violating the law in the first place and therefore would lose his share of rights in the matter.

someone violating the law loses all other legal protections?  scary slope you're running down right there.