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Tender Branson
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« on: July 01, 2008, 12:42:10 PM »

McCain leading in Florida and Georgia:

In Florida, Sen. John McCain leads Sen. Barack Obama, 49% to 43%, with Libertarian Bob Barr getting 1%.

In Georgia, McCain leads Obama, 51% to 43%, with Barr pulling 3% in his home state.

http://politicalwire.com
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Flying Dog
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« Reply #1 on: July 01, 2008, 01:09:36 PM »

Both of those results sound relatively reasonable....
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Eleanor Martins
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« Reply #2 on: July 01, 2008, 01:13:37 PM »

Topline numbers don't mean sh*t till the crosstabs come in. I don't know what the obsession with numbers that conform to peoples' perception of reality is though, where any result that looks like an aberration is immediately written off as worthless.
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« Reply #3 on: July 01, 2008, 01:22:25 PM »

Topline numbers don't mean sh*t till the crosstabs come in. I don't know what the obsession with numbers that conform to peoples' perception of reality is though, where any result that looks like an aberration is immediately written off as worthless.
good post. this constantly bugs me as well.
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Eleanor Martins
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« Reply #4 on: July 01, 2008, 01:47:50 PM »

Next post anywhere which goes 'this poll is trash' will make me gnash my teeth.
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Gustaf
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« Reply #5 on: July 02, 2008, 05:15:07 AM »

Topline numbers don't mean sh*t till the crosstabs come in. I don't know what the obsession with numbers that conform to peoples' perception of reality is though, where any result that looks like an aberration is immediately written off as worthless.
good post. this constantly bugs me as well.

It isn't as much peoples' perception of reality as the actual reality. Some polls ARE trash. And if they contradict each other someone must be wrong. Polling is not really an area where a relativist or subjectivist approach to reality is very meaningful.
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Eleanor Martins
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« Reply #6 on: July 02, 2008, 06:42:37 AM »

I'm not entirely sure what you're getting at. Polls unto themselves are meant to provide an accurate depiction of reality as it stands, but unfortunately there's a measure of subjectivity and uncertainty present within polls that are inescapable.

I'd much sooner use a flawed measure of rigorous methodology ahead of crap statements pulled out of asses such as There's no WAY Obama will get within 5 of McCain in GA, this poll is trash or You've got to be ing kidding if McCain makes headway in the Pacific Northwest, crappy uni poll. It all strikes it me as terribly blinkered.
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