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minionofmidas
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« Reply #50 on: July 01, 2008, 01:55:19 PM »

Ok, fine.  Not ALL authoritarians are bad.  All authoritarian governments are bad.

But again, in what way can a corporation be authoritarian against their customers?
Who spoke of customers?
Although there are myriad petty ways, of course, if you have sufficient market power which, admittedly, is quite a lot of market power. That wasn't my point though. I'm entirely interested in the internal workings of large companies here - since your description of China supposed to prove its communism sounded nothing like a communist country but a lot like a description of big business.
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« Reply #51 on: July 01, 2008, 03:06:55 PM »

But how are people harmed if a company is run like a dictatorship?  Who cares how Ford runs it's internals, unless, of course you work for Ford, but I'm pretty most of their employee's are there voluntarily.



(and I'm not arguing that China is Communist, I'm arguing it's NOT Capitalist.  The Chinese will argue that they are Communist though.)
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« Reply #52 on: July 01, 2008, 04:40:28 PM »

But how are people harmed if a company is run like a dictatorship?  Who cares how Ford runs it's internals, unless, of course you work for Ford, but I'm pretty most of their employee's are there voluntarily.

Perhaps those who drove the Ford Pinto disagree.
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« Reply #53 on: July 01, 2008, 05:13:59 PM »

Are you serious?
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« Reply #54 on: July 01, 2008, 08:26:49 PM »

Lewis -- Do you have any (workable) alternatives to corporations existing or not?(Communism was tried and proved to fail)
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« Reply #55 on: July 05, 2008, 04:33:45 AM »
« Edited: July 05, 2008, 06:07:39 AM by tsionebreicruoc »

Lewis -- Do you have any (workable) alternatives to corporations existing or not?(Communism was tried and proved to fail)

Well, I think here's an interesting point. Now, there are just corporations, and so they can be authoritarian.

The way in which I find that corporations can be authoritarian is that the job policy is in their hands. They choose who work and where, and according to such or such country, they choose for which price. The work is the base of a human society, if you largely control the work, don't you largely control how work a society? Even if there are a lot of different companies in different countries, they all work on the same model, the current one, which give them a large power on a human society by work, and globalization increases that a lot: "Shut up or I go to China". And once in China: "That's fine, everybody shut up here". You wanna work? Shut up.

So, maybe we can't say corporations are authoritarian, but the current economic model which gives so much power to corporations is authoritarian to workers.
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